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particleeffect 03-28-04 02:41 AM

Where was the FD designed?
 
naturally i'd assume they collected data from both japan and the US about what to do with the next generation rx7. but where did most of the design take place?

spekdah 03-28-04 02:44 AM

dunno, but what I do know is the look they were going for was a ' water running over a stone' effect.

RX7SpiritR 03-28-04 03:09 AM

It was designed in Hiroshima, Japan.

jimlab 03-28-04 03:30 AM


Originally posted by RX7SpiritR
It was designed in Hiroshima, Japan.
It was built in Hiroshima, but it was designed by Mazda's U.S. design team in California according to Yamaguchi's book, IIRC.

RX7SpiritR 03-28-04 03:32 AM

?? really?

jimlab 03-28-04 03:35 AM


Originally posted by RX7SpiritR
?? really?
Yes, really.

RX7SpiritR 03-28-04 03:39 AM

wow I learn new things all the time.

akiratdk 03-28-04 03:39 AM

It was designed by a Pasadena Art Center College of Design student in Cali. I'm a car design major in this school so that is what the upper term students told me....

diablone 03-28-04 03:48 AM

Some further information on the designer.

http://cardesignerart.com/products.a...C37&openID=C37
http://cardesignerart.com/products.a...=C7&openID=C37

jimlab 03-28-04 03:54 AM


Originally posted by diablone
Some further information on the designer.
Key points...

Bachelor's degree in Transportation Design from the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California

Lead Designer at Mazda R&D in Irvine, California

blueskaterboy 03-28-04 08:05 AM

that's right designed by a chinese guy!

jimlab 03-28-04 10:41 AM


Originally posted by blueskaterboy
that's right designed by a chinese guy!
Well, that borders on being a racist remark, but thanks for joining the conversation nonetheless. I don't know what we would have done without that tidbit of information... :rolleyes:

Yes, you were probably just trying to be funny, however I don't give a shit what your motive was. Your brain still should have kicked in before you hit the submit buton.

PVerdieck 03-28-04 10:54 AM

OK.
Hiroshima, Yokohama, MANA (Mazda Automotive NA?) and John Shute's IAD in England were developing designs. After looking at 9 concepts, they went with 2, one by Jun Okazaki (Hiroshima) and one by Wu-Huang Chin(NAMA). Final models of both were made, the chose Chin's, but also appreciated elements of Okazaki's, and wanted them built into the other design.

This, and more should be legible starting in the 3rd image

Here you go:



http://www.verdieck.com/RX7/d1.jpg


http://www.verdieck.com/RX7/d2.jpg


http://www.verdieck.com/RX7/d3.jpg


http://www.verdieck.com/RX7/d4.jpg


http://www.verdieck.com/RX7/d5.jpg

XSTransAm 03-28-04 11:27 AM

Anyone ever heard of the mazda DISC-II rotary. (direct injection stratified charge) It has a pretty cool looking rotor and some neat economic advances.

Anyone know anything about this one and why it was abondaned?

Also just a neat little bit of info. In the 1973 paris auto show, chevy had a prototype corvette that used a 4 rotor and was meant for production but failed because of the new emmisions.

particleeffect 03-28-04 12:01 PM

ahh, thanks for the input guys.

the_glass_man 09-15-04 10:02 AM

I have a good page or two from my RX-7 book I'll post someday.

Section8 09-15-04 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by jimlab
Well, that borders on being a racist remark, but thanks for joining the conversation nonetheless. I don't know what we would have done without that tidbit of information... :rolleyes:

Yes, you were probably just trying to be funny, however I don't give a shit what your motive was. Your brain still should have kicked in before you hit the submit buton.

I agree maybe some more thought should have been put into that post, but my original take was he was surpised that the designer was not Japanese.

blueskaterboy 09-15-04 11:15 AM

yes i was quite surprised to find that such a car was designed by a chinese guy in california, not a japanese guy in japan. it is almost ironic.

i think most of are used to jim though. if he didnt make some sort of sarcastic disparagement every so often we'd all be a little worried about him.

jimlab 09-15-04 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Section8
I agree maybe some more thought should have been put into that post, but my original take was he was surpised that the designer was not Japanese.

But is it really so surprising that the final design for a Japanese car was produced by someone who wasn't Japanese? After all, most corporate branches or divisions are not made up of people of only one nationality, especially those based in the U.S.

jimlab 09-15-04 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by blueskaterboy
yes i was quite surprised to find that such a car was designed by a chinese guy in california, not a japanese guy in japan. it is almost ironic.

Ironic because you believed the RX-7 was a purely Japanese-designed and -influenced car? Talent isn't bound by nationality, and any company which wishes to remain prosperous isn't going to let something like that limit them from recruiting the best people they can find.

BTW, If you had included some sort of explanation with your original comment we wouldn't be having this conversation. :)

adam c 09-15-04 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
Well, that borders on being a racist remark, but thanks for joining the conversation nonetheless. I don't know what we would have done without that tidbit of information... :rolleyes:

Yes, you were probably just trying to be funny, however I don't give a shit what your motive was. Your brain still should have kicked in before you hit the submit buton.


I don't see that remark as remotely close to being racist. He is surprised that a chinese guy made the design. How is that racist?

Maybe your brain should have kicked in before you hit the submit button :)

scratchjunkie 09-15-04 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by blueskaterboy
yes i was quite surprised to find that such a car was designed by a chinese guy in california, not a japanese guy in japan. it is almost ironic.

all the finalized decisions for the 3rd gen was made by a japanese guy

ptrhahn 09-15-04 12:53 PM

A lot of car companies maintain their own design studios in california and/or outsource the design to independent studios like the italians, Guigiaro, Pininfarina, etc... it's not uncommon.

The new Viper was designed by an asian guy who works for Chrysler, which is owned by the Germans...

jimlab 09-15-04 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by adam c
I don't see that remark as remotely close to being racist. He is surprised that a chinese guy made the design. How is that racist?

"A Chinese guy"?? How does his race have anything whatsoever to do with his abilities as a designer?

I said bordering on being racist, by the way. The comment was not intended to be derogatory, I assumed, but could have been offensive to someone of that race. Referring to someone as a "Chinese guy" could easily be offensive.

Think about it... if you're able.

Runnin Away 09-15-04 12:58 PM

Has anyone seee the fact that this Chin guys Taiwanese guy if im not mistaken, has designed the exterior of the FD which we all so like and the interior of the Rx-8 which is amazingly stunning. Now to bring up a more controversial aspect if the "Chin" guy were to design the 4th generation RX7 exterior and interior don't you think it would come near as perfect again. He's got some serious talent


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