What does your FD Weigh?
05-31-08, 08:42 AM
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how is your single turbo kit lighter than the stock twins? your running a massive turbo. that has to outweight the twins by a good bit.
your prob also running a much larger intercooler and radiator setup with your turbo. i just dont see how you came up with the figure you did, sorry.
your prob also running a much larger intercooler and radiator setup with your turbo. i just dont see how you came up with the figure you did, sorry.
I really dont see what is so hard to believe about the weight of his car. I thought it was kinda heavy for a fully modified singled fd
05-31-08, 04:09 PM
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Clue what I'm going to be at ~
1/3 tank
Bose out
15lb battery
Racing beat DT
Resonated midpipe
SS downpipe
Rear wiper deleted
Stock sound proofing removed ~ aftermarket put in - 3lbs
Koyo Rad
V-mount IC
Single turbo T67
Shine undertray - weighs nothing over stock - 1-2lbs I guess.
All emissions deleted...
Add
Sunroof (non glass)
Spare
Driver 152lbs
1/3 tank
Bose out
15lb battery
Racing beat DT
Resonated midpipe
SS downpipe
Rear wiper deleted
Stock sound proofing removed ~ aftermarket put in - 3lbs
Koyo Rad
V-mount IC
Single turbo T67
Shine undertray - weighs nothing over stock - 1-2lbs I guess.
All emissions deleted...
Add
Sunroof (non glass)
Spare
Driver 152lbs
05-31-08, 11:01 PM
#29
Most normal sized singles will save you a little weight over the stock sequential setup. Now the guys running GT42s and larger I really dont think save any weight but they make the power to make up for it
I really dont see what is so hard to believe about the weight of his car. I thought it was kinda heavy for a fully modified singled fd
I really dont see what is so hard to believe about the weight of his car. I thought it was kinda heavy for a fully modified singled fd
06-01-08, 03:26 AM
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Dude, are you kidding? Modded FD = Lighter than stock.
Weigh a stock precat against a down pipe. Whether it be for a single or twins. Stock cat vs. a midpipe or even a midpipe with a borla xr1. Most aftermarket exhausts are lighter... especially titanium. Pull out all the useless crap in the engine bay when upgrading to single also removes some weight.
Lighter than most cars from the factory yes, but they still have places they can lighten up.
06-01-08, 09:38 AM
#31
We will see soon what my car weighs in at, no power steering, no ac, likely no IC
, full exhaust, no emissions, and all hte interior behind the rear seats removed. There are a couple other things removed I am sure I am forgetting but I should be right in the 2500lb range. I guess we will see.However, if you search this forum you will see what others have weighed their fds in at, and the only ones that gain weight when modified are the ones with the ricey fiberglass body kits, knock off 99 spec wings, monster wheels and sound systems. I promise you none of that stuff will ever find its way on my car
06-01-08, 10:42 AM
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haha, you do realize how much stuff gets deleted on a fully built single car correct?
We will see soon what my car weighs in at, no power steering, no ac, likely no IC , full exhaust, no emissions, and all hte interior behind the rear seats removed. There are a couple other things removed I am sure I am forgetting but I should be right in the 2500lb range. I guess we will see.
However, if you search this forum you will see what others have weighed their fds in at, and the only ones that gain weight when modified are the ones with the ricey fiberglass body kits, knock off 99 spec wings, monster wheels and sound systems. I promise you none of that stuff will ever find its way on my car
We will see soon what my car weighs in at, no power steering, no ac, likely no IC
, full exhaust, no emissions, and all hte interior behind the rear seats removed. There are a couple other things removed I am sure I am forgetting but I should be right in the 2500lb range. I guess we will see.However, if you search this forum you will see what others have weighed their fds in at, and the only ones that gain weight when modified are the ones with the ricey fiberglass body kits, knock off 99 spec wings, monster wheels and sound systems. I promise you none of that stuff will ever find its way on my car
06-01-08, 11:03 AM
#33
Dude, are you kidding? Modded FD = Lighter than stock.
Weigh a stock precat against a down pipe. Whether it be for a single or twins. Stock cat vs. a midpipe or even a midpipe with a borla xr1. Most aftermarket exhausts are lighter... especially titanium. Pull out all the useless crap in the engine bay when upgrading to single also removes some weight.
Lighter than most cars from the factory yes, but they still have places they can lighten up.
Weigh a stock precat against a down pipe. Whether it be for a single or twins. Stock cat vs. a midpipe or even a midpipe with a borla xr1. Most aftermarket exhausts are lighter... especially titanium. Pull out all the useless crap in the engine bay when upgrading to single also removes some weight.
Lighter than most cars from the factory yes, but they still have places they can lighten up.
but the only weight reduction(that i know of) involved in going single is:
-rats nest removal
-airpump removal
-lighter turbo/housing(sometimes)
am i right??
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06-01-08, 11:35 AM
#34
yeah your right. like a compete idiot, i forgot about the exhaust and the parts eliminated while going single. what i was really speaking of was a higher flow radiator and an intercooler with a much larger core.
but the only weight reduction(that i know of) involved in going single is:
-rats nest removal
-airpump removal
-lighter turbo/housing(sometimes)
am i right??
but the only weight reduction(that i know of) involved in going single is:
-rats nest removal
-airpump removal
-lighter turbo/housing(sometimes)
am i right??
Considering the turbos and manifold, not including all of the turbo controls, the dual intakes, precat, or heat shields, weigh over 50lbs by themselves, I don't see why you're having such a hard time understanding. A GT35R with a tubular manifold doesn't weigh 50lbs to begin with.
Figure a GT35R, Greddy 2-core front mount with full piping, and matching downpipe might weigh 75lbs all together. That vs 50lbs just for the turbos and manifold, then another 35lbs for the precat, probably 10lbs for the stock IC/intakes/piping, maybe 5lbs for the rats nest, and I'm sure there are some things I'm missing.
Anyway, the major point is that people have been modifying FDs and weighing them for the past 15 years. You've owned your FD for 8 months... So stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Admit you were wrong and move on with your life.
06-01-08, 02:30 PM
#35
damn man, your always on me for something..haha. i thought i admited i was wrong with the statement below.
yeah your right. like a compete idiot, i forgot about the exhaust and the parts eliminated while going single.
Figure a GT35R, Greddy 2-core front mount with full piping, and matching downpipe might weigh 75lbs all together. That vs 50lbs just for the turbos and manifold, then another 35lbs for the precat, probably 10lbs for the stock IC/intakes/piping, maybe 5lbs for the rats nest, and I'm sure there are some things I'm missing.
who would install a 2 row ic with a GT35R?? there only good for up to 15psi. who would run a large turbo with such low boost?
50lbs for the stock twins w/ turbo header seems a bit heavy for there size.
precat is 22lbs, i just weighed and sold mine.(in my last post i was excluding exhaust mods)
I don't see why you're having such a hard time understanding.
06-01-08, 02:40 PM
#36
Where did you see the 2-row being only good up to 15PSI?
Either your pre-cat had disintegrated(not uncommon) before you removed it, or I might be confusing the weight of the pre-cat and the main-cat.
06-02-08, 01:36 AM
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Just an FYI, the 2 row Greddy is "recommended" for use up to 15psi, where over that it "may" be less efficient than a 3 row. I've seen guys run way more than 15psi on a 2 row with no issues. Hell, I've seen guys push 15 through the stock junker for years with no issues. Also the stock twins are pretty damn heavy. Mine weighed more than my TO4R... but as stated before, that was because I had a SS manifold vs. the cast clunker for the twins.
I even got bored once and weighed some aluminum IC pipes against the stockers, particularly the metal shielded rubber elbows off the stock IC. The aluminum was lighter, although not much.
It's funny we're discussing this... regardless how much we add/remove, the FD is still pretty damn light in comparison to the rest of the field.
I even got bored once and weighed some aluminum IC pipes against the stockers, particularly the metal shielded rubber elbows off the stock IC. The aluminum was lighter, although not much.
It's funny we're discussing this... regardless how much we add/remove, the FD is still pretty damn light in comparison to the rest of the field.
02-06-09, 09:02 PM
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Weighed my new car today and it came back at 1235 kg = 2717 lbs. (1320 kg = 2904 lbs with me in it).
It has a full cage, 2 race seats, harneses, about half of the interior trim (no carpet) and t51R single and all supporting mods.
Interesting!
It has a full cage, 2 race seats, harneses, about half of the interior trim (no carpet) and t51R single and all supporting mods.
Interesting!
02-06-09, 11:58 PM
#42
Left Front
Right Front
Weight: 762 pounds
Weight: 714 pounds
Left Rear
Right Rear
Weight: 785 pounds
Weight: 732 pounds
Total Weight: 2993 pounds
Minus Driver: 160 pounds
Minus 3/4 tank of gas: about 95 pounds
Minus Spare Tire: 20.8 pounds
Note: 4pt Autopower Roll Bar
Note: AC Delete
Note: Full Exhaust System
Total Dry Weight: around 2717.2 pounds*measured with LongAcre Corner Scales*
Last edited by ZumSpeedRX-7; 02-06-09 at 11:58 PM. Reason: i didnt realize how old this thread was. can still possibly be useful.
02-07-09, 02:56 PM
#44
My 1994 base model (stock engine & turbos) weighed 2861 with a 143lb driver, about 40% fuel level, spare tire, jack, a/c, p/s and OEM stereo (tape deck, not the Bose system). My weight reduction mods are removed cruise control, downpipe, and odyssey PC680 battery.
My corner weights (in above configuration) were:
Loaded: 2861 lbs (with 143lb driver and 27lbs of spare tire & jack).
LF: 767, RF: 672 (50% front)
LR: 709, RR: 713 (50% rear)
Empty: 2691 lbs (driver, spare tire, jack removed).
LF: 721, RF: 665 (52% front)
LR: 640, RR: 665 (48% rear)
-s-
My corner weights (in above configuration) were:
Loaded: 2861 lbs (with 143lb driver and 27lbs of spare tire & jack).
LF: 767, RF: 672 (50% front)
LR: 709, RR: 713 (50% rear)
Empty: 2691 lbs (driver, spare tire, jack removed).
LF: 721, RF: 665 (52% front)
LR: 640, RR: 665 (48% rear)
-s-
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02-08-09, 12:52 AM
#45
I have a 93 Touring.
A/C, spare tire, and Bose system removed.
Single turbo, koyo rad.
Not too much else done to effect the weight.
Here's what the car weighed when I had it corner weighted:
Total Weight : 2998 lbs
Full Tank of Gas: -100 lbs 16 gals at 6.35 lbs per gallon
Me : -230 lbs (too much!)
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Net Car 2668 lbs
A/C, spare tire, and Bose system removed.
Single turbo, koyo rad.
Not too much else done to effect the weight.
Here's what the car weighed when I had it corner weighted:
Total Weight : 2998 lbs
Full Tank of Gas: -100 lbs 16 gals at 6.35 lbs per gallon
Me : -230 lbs (too much!)
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Net Car 2668 lbs
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