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Old 02-26-07, 01:48 AM
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alright guys here is the deal im going to be purchasing a fd this summer and goign to be stripping it down completely to get painted and the chassis reinforced. i will be using this car for drifting. i plan on ditching the rotory motor and swaping something else in. no untill i buy the chassis what suspension parts do you guys suggest. i dont want anything stock if it doesnt have to be. im not familiar with what all can be upgraded.

no for the coilovers im going with stance i have already made up my mind and for sway bars im looking at suspension techniques. i was happy with those on my 240. as far as tie rod ends, control arms, toe links, so on and so forth i want all hard and self lubricating joints. do the make subframe bushings for fd's? i was trying to do some searching and i couldnt find anything i was looking for except the stance coils and the sway bars. i want to have all this stuff purchased before i buy the car.

i dont care if the car i buy already has it, i want all brand new parts. what can i buy and where can i get it. i want to make this car SOLID!!! so any info will help greatly i will continue to search but i really want to start buying stuff now like the tie rod ends, and traction arms. what is the best for me to use.

thanks in advanced,
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You dont "ditch" the rotary.... you respect it.

Even if you swap in a LS1, the rule is you need to have the rotary in your garage and pray to the rotary gods.... or they will smite thee LS1 with the vaccum leak of death!



And the project you describe is AT MINIMUM 30k.. good luck.

Always remeber..... the rotary gods are watching
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not doing an ls1 swap but thanks. i might use the rotory till it needs new seals then get rid of it. but im looking for what i can buy that isnt motor related while i wait till i find the 7 i want. thanks
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Originally Posted by Barban
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Old 02-26-07, 05:25 AM
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lol, these 240 goons are all the same.
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lol, these 240 goons are all the same.
Hey! I resent that remark!

Don't forget to do all the reliability mods if you intend to street the car for any length of time. If you do that you might be waiting a while for it to blow a seal.
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Originally Posted by rkreimer10
alright guys here is the deal im going to be purchasing a fd this summer and goign to be stripping it down completely to get painted and the chassis reinforced. i will be using this car for drifting. i plan on ditching the rotory motor and swaping something else in.
I think that you'll find the swap is nowhere near as easy as with the piston engine imports. It's a lot more work than it's worth in most cases.

no untill i buy the chassis what suspension parts do you guys suggest. i dont want anything stock if it doesnt have to be. im not familiar with what all can be upgraded.
Those last two statements put together are scary. This car is designed to be a race car, and the stock parts are generally very, very good for that. The aftermarket suspension parts out there are bushings, toe links, trailing arms, swaybars and mounts, and shocks. None of them will add durability unless you go about making your own and adding weight to the corners.

no for the coilovers im going with stance i have already made up my mind and for sway bars im looking at suspension techniques. i was happy with those on my 240.
FYI, very few FD people use those brands. Whether there is a reason or not I don't know. But I'm no suspension guru. The suspension gurus hang out in the suspension section here, although their definition of suspension performance tends to differ from the drifting car setups.

as far as tie rod ends, control arms, toe links, so on and so forth i want all hard and self lubricating joints. do the make subframe bushings for fd's? i was trying to do some searching and i couldnt find anything i was looking for except the stance coils and the sway bars. i want to have all this stuff purchased before i buy the car.

i dont care if the car i buy already has it, i want all brand new parts. what can i buy and where can i get it.
You can buy whatever you want and you can get it from wherever it's being sold.

If your plan is really as you describe it, it sounds like you should find a good rotary shop and have them build this thing up for you. We're not going to be of much help if you're just going to throw money at a car.

i want to make this car SOLID!!! so any info will help greatly i will continue to search but i really want to start buying stuff now like the tie rod ends, and traction arms. what is the best for me to use.
If by solid you intend to survive sliding off the road, I don't think any aftermarket stuff will help. The FD is primarily a race car, and the unsprung parts are as light as they can be. There aren't aftermarket replacements for those because the stock ones work really well. Perhaps importing JDM parts will open up extra avenues.

In any case, the FD is one awfully expensive car to drift. This project would be very amibitiou$ and I hope you can afford it.

thanks in advanced,
ryan
FYI, drifting is not as popular here as you might have expected. Expect mixed responses.

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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
FYI, drifting is not as popular here as you might have expected. Expect mixed responses.
Neither are ls1 swaps
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he's not going to do an LSx swap as he already stated... my guess is a sr20 in which case the 240 would have been a better build up.... the only advantage the 7 MIGHT have is a lower polar moment... not sure if it even has the advantage of that. The cost of building one for drift will be double that of a 240....or more with a swap.
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not any of the swaps you have mentioned. thanks dave for some real feedback. hey barbon can you tell me where to buy a clue at? i came here for some advice and i guess that most of you guys are dicks to noobs. well im not ashamed to say that i dont know much about rx7's. i do know what a rotory engine is and i just perfer something a little more reliable for drifting. so please if your not going to post good information than dont. thank you
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Originally Posted by rkreimer10
not any of the swaps you have mentioned. thanks dave for some real feedback. hey barbon can you tell me where to buy a clue at? i came here for some advice and i guess that most of you guys are dicks to noobs. well im not ashamed to say that i dont know much about rx7's. i do know what a rotory engine is and i just perfer something a little more reliable for drifting. so please if your not going to post good information than dont. thank you
Well this is a very big project you're talking about. I suggest you really dig in and figure things out in detail up front, because throwing parts and money at an FD don't amount to much. Although for an engine swap that's definitely required.

The V8 is the most popular swap because it's the easiest. It's not easy, compared to many swaps on other cars, but things do fit pretty well. Other engines just don't provide the same bang for the buck - in other words they don't make sense. Why spend $10k to swap in an I6 when you can do a V8 for the same price and weight?

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Alright well can I ask you why you choose the fd as a drift car? I'm currently building a weekend drift/track fd (bitch to compramise on the 2 but I figure decent in both is good enough for me)(currently have an s4 drifter too). Anyhow alot of the stock equipment is REALLY good, very well engineered. Adjustable suspension is gonna be the only major upgrade.... also a better baffled gas tank or fuel cell is a must....unless you like running lean while side ways. Most suspension parts are already aluminum and about the best you can get. Ummm adjustable toe links, upgrade ALL the bushings. Gonna want a really good 2 way lsd cause the stock viscus is not very capable of drifting...good for track though. ummmm adjustable top hats.... can't really hink of much else right now while I'm at work...I'll keep thinking though.
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Originally Posted by rkreimer10
i came here for some advice and i guess that most of you guys are dicks to noobs.
NO, most of us just don't appreciate someone coming in and saying they're going to rip out everything, blah blah, when they don't have a clue about the car. This isn't some econocar or sedan-based "sporty car". This a true sports car with a racing suspension design. That and we get dozens of newbs coming in saying they're going to do all this and all that and they are actually full of ****.

So here's what. Spend a couple hundred of hours reading the FAQ thread here, the race forum, the suspension forum, and then ask some INTELLIGENT questions about modifications. When you come on here with an attitude and create a post with ****-poor grammar and everything else, you aren't going to get the best response.
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rynberg ftw. This post is much like the one from the guy that "wrecked his baby" but refused to post pictures so people could give him a rough estimate on how much it'll cost to fix. Damn newbs who refuse to help themselves before posting. Please, as rynberg said, take the time to read the suspension forums, the FD FAQ's, the race forum, and also the Engine Conversion forum. These will give you an idea of what you're looking at for suspension, tires, engine, trans, rear end, etc. etc. etc.
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^ Rotary gods oppose on that suggestion.


now go check your AST ;] muhhahahahaah
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My personal recommendation is to drive the car before deciding you're going to buy one. Then, if you like the way the car drives in stock form, buy it and go race it (or drift ON A TRACK if that's your thing) before upgrading anything. Usually, the car has plenty of performance but the driver doesn't know what they're doing. Later, you'll be able to choose for yourself what needs upgrading.


But if you like the idea of copying someone's setup, without really knowing if it will work for you, here's a link to another link.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/shock-drifting-fd-buildup-526526/

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im just messing with you bro..

i come from a 240 filled background...

The 240 frame and body was built perfectly for use of sliding.... now OBVIOUSLY it wasnt meant for drifting and such, but i think of it as a solid piece of metal that floats over the road. All the suspension mods done on a 240 are for stiffness so it will be just that... a solid piece of metal that is very rigid wihch makes it easier to get it sliding. I ride in my friends 240 everyday to lunch for years and gotten the feel of it.

A FD is a differnt story, the FD was built as a pure sportscar and all of the suspension mods you see people doing is to keep a balance between flex and rigidity(yea.. i made it up) for taking corners and such on tracks and whatnot. Honestly, for just drifting purposed, your wasting your money on a FD. For drifting a S13 is 92304 times funner, belive me.... it just is beggin you to do it... its such a great platform for pro and amature drifters.

If you want to turn a FD into a race/drift car its going to be a MINUMUM of 30k.... most drifters dont have that kind of money ;] haha


^ most of this was covered by the posters above... but thats the rundown ill give you.

But seriously... respect the rotary, you'll cry from doubting of what it really can do :]
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Originally Posted by rynberg
NO, most of us just don't appreciate someone coming in and saying they're going to rip out everything, blah blah, when they don't have a clue about the car. This isn't some econocar or sedan-based "sporty car". This a true sports car with a racing suspension design. That and we get dozens of newbs coming in saying they're going to do all this and all that and they are actually full of ****.

So here's what. Spend a couple hundred of hours reading the FAQ thread here, the race forum, the suspension forum, and then ask some INTELLIGENT questions about modifications. When you come on here with an attitude and create a post with ****-poor grammar and everything else, you aren't going to get the best response.
me going to the FAQ right now to avoid doing something very stupid.
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ok so we are on the same page i want a fd because im tired of 240s. im jsut tired of seeing them, driving them, so on and so forth. i wanted a fd, ya to have something different. i will be droppign in a 2jz-gte with a 1jz tranny. i have eerything lined up for a modded crossmember, mounts and custom one peice drive shaft.

this project will be performed in a actual shop not just my garage. i know its going to take money to do this and my wallet is ready for it. i figured that with the price of the car and to get the 2j in and running will cost roughly 20k.

well those are my plans and if i have any more questions based upon the parts i will be using ill ask. thanks


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