Value my 44k mile FD please
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Value my 44k mile FD please
Hello everyone,
Unfortunately I feel as its time to part ways with my rx7. I've owned it for the past 2 years, but being a college student in Wisconsin it is just not practical for me to own. Anyways, im leaning towards selling it but i am not sure what the price should be.
--Run down on the car--
-44k miles
-originally from germany so it has unique features
--(Dual oil coolers, wing, front lip, leather, euro rear bumper, side markers, adjustable headlights, and a few other miscellaneous things)
-9/10 exterior
-9.5/10 interior
-just had transmission rebuilt by liberty gears (fifth gear grind)
-new act xtss clutch and braided slave line
-BC external reservoir coilovers
-koyo radiator
-greddy titanium catback with unknown downpipe and bonez cat.
-Apexi power-fc on basemap tune.
-racing beat sway bar brace, along with stronger mounts
-rear differential brace
So if anyone wants to chime in and help out that would be much appreciated! Thanks!
Unfortunately I feel as its time to part ways with my rx7. I've owned it for the past 2 years, but being a college student in Wisconsin it is just not practical for me to own. Anyways, im leaning towards selling it but i am not sure what the price should be.
--Run down on the car--
-44k miles
-originally from germany so it has unique features
--(Dual oil coolers, wing, front lip, leather, euro rear bumper, side markers, adjustable headlights, and a few other miscellaneous things)
-9/10 exterior
-9.5/10 interior
-just had transmission rebuilt by liberty gears (fifth gear grind)
-new act xtss clutch and braided slave line
-BC external reservoir coilovers
-koyo radiator
-greddy titanium catback with unknown downpipe and bonez cat.
-Apexi power-fc on basemap tune.
-racing beat sway bar brace, along with stronger mounts
-rear differential brace
So if anyone wants to chime in and help out that would be much appreciated! Thanks!
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16-18k
20k if you want to wait for the right buyer.
Its low mileage but it is one of the most common fds, Red Touring (it those have black interior with is a plus for some)
It is also good that it is mostly stock engine bay.
However, it is not good that it does not have the original stereo and shift ****.
20k if you want to wait for the right buyer.
Its low mileage but it is one of the most common fds, Red Touring (it those have black interior with is a plus for some)
It is also good that it is mostly stock engine bay.
However, it is not good that it does not have the original stereo and shift ****.
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Thats around what I was thinking as well. I do have the factory radio and the factory shift **** is currently on. Everything that I changed, I kept the original parts aswell. Thank you for your input, I appreciate it.
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Hate it all you want but it makes a huge difference in value.
If this car was CW Base with no sunroof with black cloth and a manual trans it would be $24-26k.
A red car with leather and sunroof? 17-18k if it's a 94+
I shy away from buying cars from students and young people.
It's always a game of what are they not telling me. Also they tend not to have money to keep up with expensive Maintinence. The cars are always worse off after they take ownership than being better for it.
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If this car was CW Base with no sunroof with black cloth and a manual trans it would be $24-26k.
A red car with leather and sunroof? 17-18k if it's a 94+
I shy away from buying cars from students and young people.
It's always a game of what are they not telling me. Also they tend not to have money to keep up with expensive Maintinence. The cars are always worse off after they take ownership than being better for it.
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Most people do not track their FD, the sliding roof on the touring model is a nice feature as well as the fog lights (which you are missing). The extra oil cooler makes your FD more desirable in the southern states. You might want to consider a stock BOV replacement as the one you have in the pics looks a bit out of place. I'm sure Fritz has a used one for sale.
At least $18k sale with compression results.
At least $18k sale with compression results.
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This is not a touring model as stated above. This was originally from Germany(have paperwork), so it did not come with fog lights. It does however have adjustable headlights from the center counsle, rear fog light, etc. When I bought the car it had that BOV on it, and I do agree it looks out of place, but to replace it with a factory one seems like a minimal factor in terms of making or breaking a sale. Thanks for your opinions thus far. I will probably detail it this coming weekend and go from there.
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You have a unique car here, I imagine there are not many euro spec FD's in the States. Ive seen that center console headlight control (im guessing thats what it was) in a pic or two before and its always been a curiosity. What exactly does it control, and can you post up a picture of that console? Sorry I dont have any value input but I think your car is pretty interesting!
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16-18k
20k if you want to wait for the right buyer.
Its low mileage but it is one of the most common fds, Red Touring (it those have black interior with is a plus for some)
It is also good that it is mostly stock engine bay.
However, it is not good that it does not have the original stereo and shift ****.
20k if you want to wait for the right buyer.
Its low mileage but it is one of the most common fds, Red Touring (it those have black interior with is a plus for some)
It is also good that it is mostly stock engine bay.
However, it is not good that it does not have the original stereo and shift ****.
It's always easier to start high and lower later. You can't really negotiate up if you ask too little.
Out of curiosity to some of the above posts, why are 94+s worth more than the 93s? I wasn't aware of any major changes other than equipment group changes. Also afaik 93s didn't get spoilers so I would have assumed it's a 94+
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Learn something new every day I guess.
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Right, but I wasn't aware any of those minor changes affected value. Based on earlier replies I'm wrong it seems, I just expected it would take something larger like engine or major reliability improvements to have any notable effect on the resale value of a 20+ year old car.
Learn something new every day I guess.
Learn something new every day I guess.
Those reasons alone make the 94, 95 cars preferable but combine that with how few 94 and especially 95 models were imported and you have a much rarer car in comparison to the 93's.
There are other small differences but there is no denying a differential in value.
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It's likely the entire gauge pod has been swapped. The car that came from Germany had Kilometers and not MPH and Miles on the speedo/Odometer. This raises the question about documentation for the actual mileage. It's unlikely that the swap of the gauges was done at a dealer. They would not have used an Auto cluster for a manual car. But if it was done by a dealer there should be documentation to show continuity of the mileage. Dealers also put stickers in the door jab showing the odo change and basically certifies the mileage for the car.
Documentation can easily explain this but I suspect that it doesn't have any. In this case the mileage cannot be verified and the title should reflect that. It's impossibly to get a mileage based valuation on this car. You are going to have to go off condition alone. That's fine if all you want to do is drive it and enjoy it. But giving it some added value for having low miles may be a fools errand.
Documentation can easily explain this but I suspect that it doesn't have any. In this case the mileage cannot be verified and the title should reflect that. It's impossibly to get a mileage based valuation on this car. You are going to have to go off condition alone. That's fine if all you want to do is drive it and enjoy it. But giving it some added value for having low miles may be a fools errand.
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If this was an auto converted to manual there would be lots of questions so is that the case?
If the cluster was replaced with an auto cluster then as Zoom Zoom said mileage is in question.
Either way this isn't a 20k FD at this time until a lot of questions are answered.
Color, year, interior color, model and miles play a major role in valuing a collector car.
93 red or blue touring is the least valuable FD add tan interior and the value goes down another 2k.
If the cluster was replaced with an auto cluster then as Zoom Zoom said mileage is in question.
Either way this isn't a 20k FD at this time until a lot of questions are answered.
Color, year, interior color, model and miles play a major role in valuing a collector car.
93 red or blue touring is the least valuable FD add tan interior and the value goes down another 2k.
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i think the color combo has an impact ONLY for this immediate community. I think if you parked a FD on the street corner it would sell for a fair price no matter the color.
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LOL
People don't spend 20k plus on 20 plus year old cars that they know nothing about
I've said this over and over again COLOR, MODEL, Interior color, YEAR, etc.... IS EFFING HUGE!!!!!! when valuing this car or any old car.
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Color/interior combo is big to those who know RX7's. To an extent, it really does help and hurt price. A red on tan 93 touring is the most common FD. I have a mildly uncommon rx7. It's a 93 red on tan BASE. Nice thing about it is the tan leather is optional, no sunroof, no Bose. I also added dual r1 oil coolers so now it's more like a wingless r1 with leather :P. At the end of the day, an rx7 is still a rare car REGARDLESS of color. I can't drive one week without someone waving, pointing, handing out thumbs up, etc. Some color/model variations make them significantly more rare than others, however the right buyer will pay the right price.
I would say 18k is a fair asking price.
Matt
I would say 18k is a fair asking price.
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My advice to you.
Keep the car. Park it somewhere covered (in a garage that is temp controlled if you can) and start it once in a while, change the oil, drive it around the block, etc. You will regret selling this car when you get older and look back. 44k fd in 10 years will bring you enough money to put a down payment on a nice house.
Some people say FDs are not investments, but a FD with low mileage and in this condition IS.
Buy a beater from a used car lot and make payments on it (max $100 a month).
Keep the car. Park it somewhere covered (in a garage that is temp controlled if you can) and start it once in a while, change the oil, drive it around the block, etc. You will regret selling this car when you get older and look back. 44k fd in 10 years will bring you enough money to put a down payment on a nice house.
Some people say FDs are not investments, but a FD with low mileage and in this condition IS.
Buy a beater from a used car lot and make payments on it (max $100 a month).
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Right, but I wasn't aware any of those minor changes affected value. Based on earlier replies I'm wrong it seems, I just expected it would take something larger like engine or major reliability improvements to have any notable effect on the resale value of a 20+ year old car.
Learn something new every day I guess.
Learn something new every day I guess.
And you guys are crazy about red cars being less desirable.
Mazda Museum - red
Yamaguchi cover - red
Sports Car Color History cover - red
Performance Handbook cover - red
Wikipedia picture - red
Kyosho model - red
Red is clearly the best color.*
*Said tongue in cheek for those who are a little slow.
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Why is sunroof such a negative? I like having a sunroof. It serves ME. I wouldn't want to trade off something I like merely bc it makes for better value to someone else.
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PS who really keeps that POS 90's original head unit of a stereo?
Edit as for red being less desirable it could be because it's the most common color for FD's.
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The sunroof subtracts about an inch to an inch and a half of headroom inside the passenger compartment.
These are just the facts.
Also red is probably the most popular color for sports cars in general. Red doesn't age well on these cars and turns to a shade of pink. It probably has a lot to do with folks not wanting a 23 year old faded red car. Color trends on cars change over time. When was the last time you saw a new Teal or Brown car?