v-mount inter. radiator combo from r-extreme
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From: Buckhead
Originally posted by DaiOni
We are talking about STREET cars - which is why I used streetable cars as a demonstrative point.
Tis a big difference between a street (ie: good for 99% of people on this forum), pro-street, and full-drag car.
The basic street class is what we should look to for relevance.
So, again, I think the lack of ic is a moot point.
What I'm saying is - look to the east. They know a hell of a lot more about rotaries than the US (I'd bet there's more rotaries in my backwater prefecture than there is in the entire US). If a workshop is running a fmic for their drag car and a v-mount for their circuit car - they are not doing that without reason.
I also note that Archie Kajewski of mazfix (australia)runs a fmic on his street car. A 10 second street car. This is a man who races a pro-street rotary to 7.77 sec @ 176mph. In a recent article he claims that his custom fmic is the key factor in the strength of his street car. He can run anything, has been around rotaries for decades, would be aware of v-mounting, yet (like the japanese), runs a fmic.
That says a lot to me.
I agree - the v-mount is a good, if expensive, choice for the street. In conditions that lead to high temps (stop start daily driving - med. - long distances, very high temp summers) - would certainly be my choice over the fmic. However, the average street car will NOT need one.
We are talking about STREET cars - which is why I used streetable cars as a demonstrative point.
Tis a big difference between a street (ie: good for 99% of people on this forum), pro-street, and full-drag car.
The basic street class is what we should look to for relevance.
So, again, I think the lack of ic is a moot point.
What I'm saying is - look to the east. They know a hell of a lot more about rotaries than the US (I'd bet there's more rotaries in my backwater prefecture than there is in the entire US). If a workshop is running a fmic for their drag car and a v-mount for their circuit car - they are not doing that without reason.
I also note that Archie Kajewski of mazfix (australia)runs a fmic on his street car. A 10 second street car. This is a man who races a pro-street rotary to 7.77 sec @ 176mph. In a recent article he claims that his custom fmic is the key factor in the strength of his street car. He can run anything, has been around rotaries for decades, would be aware of v-mounting, yet (like the japanese), runs a fmic.
That says a lot to me.
I agree - the v-mount is a good, if expensive, choice for the street. In conditions that lead to high temps (stop start daily driving - med. - long distances, very high temp summers) - would certainly be my choice over the fmic. However, the average street car will NOT need one.
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Originally posted by DaiOni
We are talking about STREET cars - which is why I used streetable cars as a demonstrative point.
Tis a big difference between a street (ie: good for 99% of people on this forum), pro-street, and full-drag car.
The basic street class is what we should look to for relevance.
So, again, I think the lack of ic is a moot point.
What I'm saying is - look to the east. They know a hell of a lot more about rotaries than the US (I'd bet there's more rotaries in my backwater prefecture than there is in the entire US). If a workshop is running a fmic for their drag car and a v-mount for their circuit car - they are not doing that without reason.
I also note that Archie Kajewski of mazfix (australia)runs a fmic on his street car. A 10 second street car. This is a man who races a pro-street rotary to 7.77 sec @ 176mph. In a recent article he claims that his custom fmic is the key factor in the strength of his street car. He can run anything, has been around rotaries for decades, would be aware of v-mounting, yet (like the japanese), runs a fmic.
That says a lot to me.
I agree - the v-mount is a good, if expensive, choice for the street. In conditions that lead to high temps (stop start daily driving - med. - long distances, very high temp summers) - would certainly be my choice over the fmic. However, the average street car will NOT need one.
We are talking about STREET cars - which is why I used streetable cars as a demonstrative point.
Tis a big difference between a street (ie: good for 99% of people on this forum), pro-street, and full-drag car.
The basic street class is what we should look to for relevance.
So, again, I think the lack of ic is a moot point.
What I'm saying is - look to the east. They know a hell of a lot more about rotaries than the US (I'd bet there's more rotaries in my backwater prefecture than there is in the entire US). If a workshop is running a fmic for their drag car and a v-mount for their circuit car - they are not doing that without reason.
I also note that Archie Kajewski of mazfix (australia)runs a fmic on his street car. A 10 second street car. This is a man who races a pro-street rotary to 7.77 sec @ 176mph. In a recent article he claims that his custom fmic is the key factor in the strength of his street car. He can run anything, has been around rotaries for decades, would be aware of v-mounting, yet (like the japanese), runs a fmic.
That says a lot to me.
I agree - the v-mount is a good, if expensive, choice for the street. In conditions that lead to high temps (stop start daily driving - med. - long distances, very high temp summers) - would certainly be my choice over the fmic. However, the average street car will NOT need one.
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From: Out playing pseudo racer
You guys are not making a fair comparison. Yes a FMIC makes sense for drag racing. Who cares about water temps when you are only running the car flat-out for 10-11 seconds. Even autoX when usually lasts for a minute. Quite a bit different then running on a road race track for 30min at a time, 4 times a day.
rynberg makes an excellent point. When you add up the cost of a quality IC, rad, intake then V-mount price is not all that bad. Especially if it lives up to the claim of being superior. It's just hard to swallow plunking down the 3k all at once. I'm still trying to make up my mind about which route to take.
rynberg makes an excellent point. When you add up the cost of a quality IC, rad, intake then V-mount price is not all that bad. Especially if it lives up to the claim of being superior. It's just hard to swallow plunking down the 3k all at once. I'm still trying to make up my mind about which route to take.
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From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
While the V Mount is very nice, I prefer my setup:
M2 Large SMIC---bought used for $1200
Pair of 6 inch fans on the back of the IC.
Fluidyne Rad-----$400
Gotham Hardpipes/K&N Filters----$175
I can drag race, street race, and road race without any water or air temp problems, and heat soak isn't much of an issue once I get moving, and the fans definitely help. Also, ever since I removed my a/c, my "Front Mount Fluidyne" sure has drawn it's fair share of attention
M2 Large SMIC---bought used for $1200
Pair of 6 inch fans on the back of the IC.
Fluidyne Rad-----$400
Gotham Hardpipes/K&N Filters----$175
I can drag race, street race, and road race without any water or air temp problems, and heat soak isn't much of an issue once I get moving, and the fans definitely help. Also, ever since I removed my a/c, my "Front Mount Fluidyne" sure has drawn it's fair share of attention
Last edited by GoodfellaFD3S; Jul 9, 2003 at 03:06 PM.
I know.
I was refering to goodfella's statement that he'd removed his. I guess he'll be used to it when he gets back from Iraq, but he must BBQ his nuts every day in TX.
To me, thats not much of a solution... if you could remove the A/C, most setups would work better, including a stock rad.!
I was refering to goodfella's statement that he'd removed his. I guess he'll be used to it when he gets back from Iraq, but he must BBQ his nuts every day in TX.
To me, thats not much of a solution... if you could remove the A/C, most setups would work better, including a stock rad.!
Originally posted by tgriesel
ptrhahn: I have the RE V-mount and I have my AC, so does Scrub. It works fine. That is not an issue anymore. Tom
ptrhahn: I have the RE V-mount and I have my AC, so does Scrub. It works fine. That is not an issue anymore. Tom
