V-Mount impressions
05-12-03, 11:22 PM
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So the APEX intake actually fits with the vmount without modification? That really surprises me. I thought it would not work.
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Originally posted by Bricktop
heres a couple pics with the apexi intake installed
heres a couple pics with the apexi intake installed
05-13-03, 11:41 AM
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Thanks Tom, I've got a ton of pics I'd love to share I just cant get them to go through... takes forever....
Went out for a little drive last night that turned into 15 dollars worth of gas !! it was pretty cool last night,60's.
Did Several 60-120 mph runs and the intake temps were never above 30, as a matter of fact temps stayed in the high 20's for just about the entire time I was on the highway.
Went out for a little drive last night that turned into 15 dollars worth of gas !! it was pretty cool last night,60's.
Did Several 60-120 mph runs and the intake temps were never above 30, as a matter of fact temps stayed in the high 20's for just about the entire time I was on the highway.
05-13-03, 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by JimmyJimboJet
Intercooler Spec: Newest tube-and-fin intercooler core, with internal fins, flows 935 CFM at 15 psi, enough to support 600HP
Intercooler Spec: Newest tube-and-fin intercooler core, with internal fins, flows 935 CFM at 15 psi, enough to support 600HP
Is that the same intercooler as in this pic?
http://www.rotaryextreme.com/vm/vm-1.jpg
05-13-03, 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by t-von
I'm curious to know how much HP the intercooler is good for? It looks a little small for really high Hp aplications. Is a larger intercooler available? Or is this design so efficiant that a larger intercooler isn't neccessary?
I'm curious to know how much HP the intercooler is good for? It looks a little small for really high Hp aplications. Is a larger intercooler available? Or is this design so efficiant that a larger intercooler isn't neccessary?
05-13-03, 06:30 PM
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The M2 large and CWR large are using the 13"x17"x3.5" Spearco intercooler core which flows 750 CFM. It's larger but it does not flow as much. All the data are provided by Spearco. The core I use is the newest Spearco tube and fin which flows a lot more despite the the smaller size which is why I choose it.
I can make you a custom one using the 13"x17"x3.5" core if you want but you will have to relocate the battery to the back. becuase the core is 2" too wide.
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I can make you a custom one using the 13"x17"x3.5" core if you want but you will have to relocate the battery to the back. becuase the core is 2" too wide.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by ptrhahn
Its as large as an M2 or CWR "large".... what is bigger?
Its as large as an M2 or CWR "large".... what is bigger?
05-29-03, 01:58 AM
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Sorry if I'm reviving this thread from the dead, but I had a question for Chuck about the Vmount.
I think someone said that the fan was mounted under the radiator out of view but worked for attracting air to it. Would it be possible to also mount a fan to the back of the intercooler, thus forming a vaccum for air?
What are your opinions on a vented hood benefiting this setup? Do you think the fans would act as a vacuum, geting more air to not only the radiator, but also the IC? Would a vented hood venting off the excess air benefit as well? Let me know.
I think someone said that the fan was mounted under the radiator out of view but worked for attracting air to it. Would it be possible to also mount a fan to the back of the intercooler, thus forming a vaccum for air?
What are your opinions on a vented hood benefiting this setup? Do you think the fans would act as a vacuum, geting more air to not only the radiator, but also the IC? Would a vented hood venting off the excess air benefit as well? Let me know.
05-29-03, 02:09 AM
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a vented hood will do a great deal in the way of keeping an effecient air flow through the engine bay. Dan (Scrub) has a vented hood on the way from Chuck as well... I don't know how much a fan behind the IC would do, unless you are using it strictly when the car is at a stop to prevent/slow the effects of heatsoak, but i don't really think it would be worth it, and at speed the fan would just disturb the air flow as it exits the IC... in my opinion, the vented hood is a great addition to this set-up, and any aftermarket IC set-up, but adding a fan to the IC is kind of worthless.
maybe Chuck can add his thoughts as well...
maybe Chuck can add his thoughts as well...
05-29-03, 10:12 AM
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A vented hood would do much more than having a couple of fans sitting on top of the IC. I imagine the fans would slow down the flow of air through the IC at speed. If you're worried about heat soak, I'd go with a vented hood and maybe look at fabbing some duct work like our friends in Japan have done for horizontal mounted intercoolers so that the air is clear of the engine bay as soon as it exits the top side of the IC. Just make sure your vents are large enough first.
05-29-03, 12:57 PM
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new v-mount
i just heard from rotary extreme that their comin out with a new v-mount setup called their "monster v-mount" thats twice as big as the one now. heres the email:
The intercooler core flows 635 cfm at 15 psi. So what you do is to look at the compressor map of the turbo and see how much they flow together at 15 psi. If they flow less than the intercooler core rating, the intercooler will be enough. If it flows higher, you should consider our monster v mount that's coming out in about 6 weeks. It's twice as big as the current one and flows 1500 cfm.
i was asking him about its use with a twin turbo setup. The only problem is i`m having trouble finding compressor maps for hks gt series turbos. Also is anyone using this kit with any other turbo setup than stock. If so i would like to see sum picks.
The intercooler core flows 635 cfm at 15 psi. So what you do is to look at the compressor map of the turbo and see how much they flow together at 15 psi. If they flow less than the intercooler core rating, the intercooler will be enough. If it flows higher, you should consider our monster v mount that's coming out in about 6 weeks. It's twice as big as the current one and flows 1500 cfm.
i was asking him about its use with a twin turbo setup. The only problem is i`m having trouble finding compressor maps for hks gt series turbos. Also is anyone using this kit with any other turbo setup than stock. If so i would like to see sum picks.
05-29-03, 02:12 PM
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A vented hood probably will not increase the air flow through the radiator but definitely through the IC. You will be able to mount a fan on the IC. An 10" diameter low profile fan can be mounted on there.
Chuck Huang
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Originally posted by kyle@insight
Sorry if I'm reviving this thread from the dead, but I had a question for Chuck about the Vmount.
I think someone said that the fan was mounted under the radiator out of view but worked for attracting air to it. Would it be possible to also mount a fan to the back of the intercooler, thus forming a vaccum for air?
What are your opinions on a vented hood benefiting this setup? Do you think the fans would act as a vacuum, geting more air to not only the radiator, but also the IC? Would a vented hood venting off the excess air benefit as well? Let me know.
Sorry if I'm reviving this thread from the dead, but I had a question for Chuck about the Vmount.
I think someone said that the fan was mounted under the radiator out of view but worked for attracting air to it. Would it be possible to also mount a fan to the back of the intercooler, thus forming a vaccum for air?
What are your opinions on a vented hood benefiting this setup? Do you think the fans would act as a vacuum, geting more air to not only the radiator, but also the IC? Would a vented hood venting off the excess air benefit as well? Let me know.
05-29-03, 02:18 PM
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Re: new v-mount
Actually the monster v mount intercooler core is 2.4 times the size of the current one. It flows at 1500 CFM (114 lb/min) at 15 psi. It will only work with a single turbo or an aftermarket twin turbo set up that does not have a air box type intake.
Once I get my turbo back (turbo blew up), I will be working on this right away. Thank you.
Chuck Huang
Once I get my turbo back (turbo blew up), I will be working on this right away. Thank you.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by thatguywiththe7
i just heard from rotary extreme that their comin out with a new v-mount setup called their "monster v-mount" thats twice as big as the one now. heres the email:
The intercooler core flows 635 cfm at 15 psi. So what you do is to look at the compressor map of the turbo and see how much they flow together at 15 psi. If they flow less than the intercooler core rating, the intercooler will be enough. If it flows higher, you should consider our monster v mount that's coming out in about 6 weeks. It's twice as big as the current one and flows 1500 cfm.
i was asking him about its use with a twin turbo setup. The only problem is i`m having trouble finding compressor maps for hks gt series turbos. Also is anyone using this kit with any other turbo setup than stock. If so i would like to see sum picks.
i just heard from rotary extreme that their comin out with a new v-mount setup called their "monster v-mount" thats twice as big as the one now. heres the email:
The intercooler core flows 635 cfm at 15 psi. So what you do is to look at the compressor map of the turbo and see how much they flow together at 15 psi. If they flow less than the intercooler core rating, the intercooler will be enough. If it flows higher, you should consider our monster v mount that's coming out in about 6 weeks. It's twice as big as the current one and flows 1500 cfm.
i was asking him about its use with a twin turbo setup. The only problem is i`m having trouble finding compressor maps for hks gt series turbos. Also is anyone using this kit with any other turbo setup than stock. If so i would like to see sum picks.
05-30-03, 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Boostedtwice
Where is the AST mounted now? does the AST elim. mod have to be preformed?
Where is the AST mounted now? does the AST elim. mod have to be preformed?