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Old 10-24-02, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Fd3BOOST
Well you did ask for opinions.

Mr. Stock is yours damaged now?
Nope. But I am always looking to upgrade and I have to undo the PPF anyways to put the driveshaft into the rear of the tranny anyway. I thought that I would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

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Old 10-25-02, 01:37 AM
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Upgraded PPF is likely a more fatigue resistant steel.

Welding a cracked PPF is only a temporary solution. Welding the crack and adding a "bridge" is probably a good solution to prevent future PPF damage.

Damon B.

How do PPFs break/crack? Your launching with "slicks"? Probably not, your launching with auto-x tires. Slicks are usually referred to as actual drag slicks which launch on really sticky pavement at the drag strip. Slicks for drag cars are very different than slicks for auto-xing (R-compound vs. actual slicks). The forces that the PPF has to deal with during drag lauches are huge in comparision to launching at the auto-x course.

You were running some old Yoko's, they aren't too sticky at all for drag lauches.

I had a 35K mile R1 PPF that was nearly broken in two because of drag launches on MT drag slicks.


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Inukai, were you driving any of RE Amemiya's cars in the Option2 RX7 special video??? Or was that filmed before you were a driver for RE Amemiya??
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Hi black99

There are some editions of Option2 special videos.
But The driver who shows in videos is Mr. Ikeda.
He is now 1st driver.
He is a very talented driver.
There are many drivers for RE-A.

Thank you
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Oh this was vol. 33 of Option2 , the RX7 Special I was refering to. I think it's an older video. Just wanted to know if I saw you in the video at all or not because both the blue and the white RE Amemiya race cars are on the video.
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Someone mentioned welding reducing the strength of metal ... depends. Most aluminums are heat treated to get enough strength to be worthy for use as load bearing pieces. When you weld you lose the heat treatment in the area around the weld and yes the part is weaker in that area.

Many steels do not suffer weakening during welding. Typically the chosen weld rod is stronger than the base metal and is selected to provide proper chemistry to not weaken the original material. What you do get with welds are flaws. Cracks originate from flaws. This is why it is important to locate your welds properly and design for low enough stress to control fatigue.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jspecracer7


Dragon has met Inukai. He's a driver for the white re amemiya FD. Speaks english good too. I'll be meeting him this sunday!
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Can I come too?
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Upgraded PPF is likely a more fatigue resistant steel.
Damon B.

How do PPFs break/crack? Your launching with "slicks"? Probably not, your launching with auto-x tires. Slicks are usually referred to as actual drag slicks which launch on really sticky pavement at the drag strip. Slicks for drag cars are very different than slicks for auto-xing (R-compound vs. actual slicks). The forces that the PPF has to deal with during drag lauches are huge in comparision to launching at the auto-x course.

You were running some old Yoko's, they aren't too sticky at all for drag lauches.

I had a 35K mile R1 PPF that was nearly broken in two because of drag launches on MT drag slicks.


Jeff
Alright Jeff, I am with you. Drag launches out of the box would surely be worse than R compounds. And the tired Yokos have been gone for some time now thank you very much

I know there are a bunch of broken PPFs from guys on street tires as well though. It seems that if you're hammering on the car hard enough to break the PPF, that you surely have no empathy for it as you would have to know you are abusing the car.
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