Hi all,

How long does it take to get the set out? I went to a friends shop and looked at his alldata database and it said 6.6 hours. Is this correct? Since I'm not doing the work I want to make sure I pay for the correct amount of labor.


Thanks,
Jason

 

well if the guy knows what he doing it should take an hour or two i have never taken them off before but my friend can do it in about that time

 

The Alldata database, as well as the others (Chilton and Mitchell), do time studies where they actually have technicians perform the operation, with hand tools, and then list that time as what it should pay.

A tech who has R & R'd the twins before can easily complete the operation in about 3 hours, with power tools.

Most Dealerships and Independant shops off quotes based upon these manuals in order to stay competative with each other. The mitigating factor is the shop's labor rate. On the other hand, if the tech somehow is not able to complete the job in the listed time, the shop should not you the extra labor because it took longer.

Don't expect to find any quality shops to discount the labor price just because the tech can complete the job in under the listed time. It's just how the repair industry, not just automotive, has been doing it for decades.

 

yes, that's how many shops make their money. they charge the going hours for a job, and can literally be getting paid to do one, two, three jobs at once depending on teh techs skill.

An example for those not familiar: say it is 6 hours for turbos. The tech can do it in 3. Well, he then has 3 hours to do other work while still getting "paid" 3 more on the turbos. While getting paid 3 on the turbos, lets say he does a full brake job that says 4 hours. Say he completes that in 1.5. He can then hop on other projects like oil changes, etc. and whip them out for profit...while still getting "paid" for the brake job and turbo job. In 6 hours work the shop probably made 15hrs of business.

 

3h is enough for someone who know what he is doing, I did it few times rufly in that amount of time without using air tools, there's not much of a need for power tools there.

Im one afternoon I did a complete R, R & R (remove, rebuild & reinstall) and drove with a big-*** smile in my face. .