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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Turbo Coolant Line is kicking my ***

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Is there any way to get the hose clamp on the turbo side on without removing the Y Pipe? I got the old one off by cutting, the new one slide on the hard pipe pretty easy, but I've been fighting this clamp for an hour now!
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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you need to use a long pair of needle nose pliers. Pull the clamp off the end towards yo so that you can install the hose onto the nipple fully. Then use the the long needle nose to squeeze the clamp and move it down into place.

They are sometimes sticky buggers trying to slide the clamps, soo, what i do is spray a little Tri-Flo or other lube on the hose and use it to help move the clamp. Once in place i wipe off the reidue lube and you are all set.

That is how i do them all the time with no worries. The long pliers just make it easier than trying to use hand yoga and get in there with short pliers
Hope that helps a litle

Also it may help you to remove the metal lines from the front elbow on the turbo. That way you can move them around and out of the way to get in there. There shouild be enough slack in the vaccum lines for it to move a little.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigIslandSevens
you need to use a long pair of needle nose pliers.
that all you really needed to say.....

i had a little trouble too, but with a little patients you can pull it off
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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honestly you should replace the old clamp with a worm gear one. they are only supposed to be used once
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Thanks for the tips guys. I had bought the longest set of needle nose pliars I could find at Sears, but they just won't do it.

BigIslandSevens, you mentioned removing the elbowpipes that connect to the turbos, do they just screw out? If i could get that little hard pipe out of the way, i could much more easily get to the bugger.

Mad_7ist, I think this may be the way to go. I'm gong to head down to Advance and pick up some worm gear clamps, hopefully that will do the job.

On a side note, I'm so glad I decided to replace these hoses, the old one was about to fall apart!
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Well the screw type clamps did the trick, then I had an even harder time getting the hose to slide all the way onto the waterpump pipe, even though it was lubed. Oh well, 1 hose down, 1 to go. i'm really not looking forward to doing the 2nd one.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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a little sandpaper on the outside of the hard pipe does wonders
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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^^ good trick. takes off the lime and other **** that accumulates there.

The Turbo elbow is held on by 2 10mm nuts( socket size 10mm) They clamp down the metal pipes to the front. Once the nuts are loose you should be able to pull the hard pipes back about 1 inch and manuver things around.

But it sounds like you are on the way there. Just be carefull NOT to overtighten the worm gear clamps as they will tear you new hoses a "new" ***!!
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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I prefer to use regular pliers. I also have small hands. It was a pita, but I got it.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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I checked out the second coolant line and I think that one is actually new, it's feels very firm and stiff, not like the other old lines that I pulled out that were very thin and pliable. The guy that did the R&R on the engine recently told me that he thought they had put at least one new coolant line on, so I think i'm gonna eat the $5 I paid for the new hose and leave the current one on there.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Section8
I checked out the second coolant line and I think that one is actually new, it's feels very firm and stiff, not like the other old lines that I pulled out that were very thin and pliable. The guy that did the R&R on the engine recently told me that he thought they had put at least one new coolant line on, so I think i'm gonna eat the $5 I paid for the new hose and leave the current one on there.

If you are confident leave it off, but are you willing to risk a blown coolant ring over a $5 hose and 5 minutes tops if you have everything else?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iluvmy3rdgen
If you are confident leave it off, but are you willing to risk a blown coolant ring over a $5 hose and 5 minutes tops if you have everything else?
Well, it'll take me substantially longer than 5 minutes to get it off, and probably even longer to get the new one on. If I was gumby I could probably do it in 5 minutes!

The hose feels really good, I can tell a distinct difference in this hose and the other old hoses I've pulled out.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Section8
Well, it'll take me substantially longer than 5 minutes to get it off, and probably even longer to get the new one on. If I was gumby I could probably do it in 5 minutes!

The hose feels really good, I can tell a distinct difference in this hose and the other old hoses I've pulled out.
That's good to hear that it's a good condition hose! I only have 27k (almost) on my FD, but I just got off the phone with Ray so I don't have to worry about those pesky things.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Before you button it back up, go get NEW clamps...

I didn't and I will be back in there again because I am loosing fluid somewhere and I am guessing this is where (I know the problem is here because it is the worst place I can imagine.)
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL
Before you button it back up, go get NEW clamps...

I didn't and I will be back in there again because I am loosing fluid somewhere and I am guessing this is where (I know the problem is here because it is the worst place I can imagine.)
you're right, this is probably a good idea. I haven't bothered to put it back together yet because I'm hoping for some goodies for christmas, so I'll run out and buy some new clamps today and redo the upper, and lower rad hoses, and the ast to rad hose that I already replaced.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_7tist
a little sandpaper on the outside of the hard pipe does wonders
I little scotchbrite type wheel on a dremel does greater wonders That really does it good.

With hose clamps, it can be frustrating, but I've found that with lineman's pliers (big flat face) I can squeeze the clamp open and still have plenty of leverage to wiggle and push it sideways over the bulb of the hard pipe.

Dave
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