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Old 07-30-05, 12:17 AM
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Trouble Starting after Non-Seq.

Well after going Non-Sequential I am having problems starting the car. The car has almost all of the bolt-ons including PFC. PFC shows all sensors working. The car will start with starting fluid, and if I give it gas I can get it to run at 2-3k for a short period of time. After which it dies. I did not have time to check fuel or spark. That will be the first thing tomorrow but, it seems like it must be getting something otherwise it wouldn't actually fire. No smoking so far. Any ideas of other things I should check tomorrow?

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Old 07-30-05, 02:14 AM
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MAP sensor unplugged?
Old 07-30-05, 10:17 AM
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Map sensor is plugged in. Also checked the TPS voltages. They look fine. I still haven't checked the fuel and ignition because I just about cut my thumb off making a bracket. Hopefully this afternoon I can check them.
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Check and make sure the FPR has it's vacuum hose is attached

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Old 07-30-05, 01:13 PM
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I checked that this morning too, along with the few vaccum lines that are left. Back from the ER only 7 stitches in my thumb. Hopefully I can get the plugs checked here in a bit.
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Well spark plugs are working fine and changed to new. After trying to start it again and not worrying about flooding by giving it 100% throttle, I found that the spark plugs neither smell like fuel nor have anything on them either rotor. I am going to try and look up the troubleshooting guide for the primary injectors. Kind of makes sense now that the starting fluid would start it and it would only run at around 3k or higher, possibly when the secondary's open? Fuel is going through the lines at high pressure, though I don't have a fuel pressure gauge. May have to pick one up. Any thoughts on whether it could be something else.

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PS now my thumb is twice the size of normal with the stitches. I think I will become ambidexturous because I can't use that hand. Who knew you used your thumb so much....jk
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While doing the conversion, did you also remove the no longer needed solenoids under the UIM? If so, you hosed something up while doing that.

If you only removed the turbos for the conversion, then nothing can/should cause your problems.

Check everthing you touched.
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I removed all of the solenoids during the conversion. I also blocked off most everything. But I did find my initial problem. Looks like my injector ground was not hooked up to the harness. Went and checked for continuity and found the problem. Cleaned up the connection and wahla fuel. Now I have another problem though. It sounds like timing's off. The engine runs as long as I give it some gas. I can hold it at about 1K with gas. Otherwise it dies. It is also putting out a bunch of gas smell. Smells like more gas than normal through the engine. Rechecked all the coil wires, spark plug wires and hall sensor wiring. I then removed plug wires from one rotor and it did not run, the other did. The engine before the conversion did not have any compression problems. It seems to have a decently steady vacuum when I run the engine with throttle. So I am wondering if one of my primary injectors is sticking? Maybe its dumping fuel in the one rotor. Any suggested tests to tell? Also is there a test I can do with a timing light to check the firing is correct. As the wires to the coils look correct but there are some spliced in wires in the harness of the coils?

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Well after resetting the idle on the throttle body and checked for any possible nipples missing and found none. Scared of how one rotor was running with out plugs and the other didn't. I checked the plugs after getting it to idle(kind of) and one was all black with soot the other had a bit of gas smell to it but was relatively clean. Then did a compression test everything was good over 100-105 psi on all faces. So the only thing I can think of is a leaking or stuck injector. So I have pulled the injectors and am sending them to witch performance for cleaning. Hopefully when I get them back that will end up being it. Any other thoughts or things to check while I wait for the injectors??
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