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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 09:10 PM
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Transmission input shaft play

So I bought a "Blueprinted" transmission from Pettit, of which heard good things. I had it shipped to a friend's place which is where I will be installing it. However when I showed up today I was a little distressed to find that the input shaft has some play in it.

I would just call Cam and ask him about it, but I can't since it's the weekend, and I was hoping to put it in this weekend...

How much play is normal on the input shaft? The rebuild seems to have somewhere around 1mm of absolute play at the end of the shaft. Certainly easily feel-able with a bare hand.
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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 09:50 PM
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Good luck dealing with Pettit
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 12:09 AM
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A couple videos...


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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 07:02 AM
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Disclaimer that I'm not a professional transmission rebuilder, but from your videos it looks to me like you're moving that shaft more in a side-to-side direction than an in & out direction. The FSM has a specification for the in & out axial direction, called "thrust play", as highlighted in the attached FSM snippet. I couldn't find a similar spec in the FSM for the side-to-side play I'm seeing in your video, so I can't comment on whether or not that side to side play is normal or not. But you should re-check the thrust play per the FSM

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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 11:16 AM
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you want to make sure that it spins freely and shifts through all the gears.

the input shaft play is a non issue, the pilot bearing locates the input shaft
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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^Agree. Probably have to some internal play or lash anyway.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:04 AM
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I'd want the bellhousing and shim installed to get an idea of that play. Probably a lot of that is the clearance of the needle bearing inside the box between the main and input shaft.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:08 AM
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I just hope it isn't due to some UPS guy manhandling the shaft.

I mean... you know what I mean.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 07:42 AM
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I just hope it isn't due to some UPS guy manhandling the shaft.

I mean... you know what I mean.
How was it packaged when it arrived? If there was destruction in transit, hopefully you got insurance on it.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
^Agree. Probably have to have some internal play or lash anyway.
Yup. Every trans I've had including racecars has some input shaft play. The tip, as mentioned above, is located by the pilot bearing, and a little play in the trans brg allows that to happen w/o the 2 brgs fighting each other.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by billyboy
I'd want the bellhousing and shim installed to get an idea of that play. Probably a lot of that is the clearance of the needle bearing inside the box between the main and input shaft.
Agree. The input shaft connects to the main shaft with roller bearing. That's most likely the cause of this radial play, which BTW looks normal to me as shown in your video.
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Old Jul 4, 2024 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mkd
So I bought a "Blueprinted" transmission from Pettit, of which heard good things. I had it shipped to a friend's place which is where I will be installing it. However when I showed up today I was a little distressed to find that the input shaft has some play in it.

I would just call Cam and ask him about it, but I can't since it's the weekend, and I was hoping to put it in this weekend...

How much play is normal on the input shaft? The rebuild seems to have somewhere around 1mm of absolute play at the end of the shaft. Certainly easily feel-able with a bare hand.
I was looking at purchasing the same transmission from Pettit. How was everything after install no issues? Did you have to send a core in?
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Old Jul 5, 2024 | 03:50 AM
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Anything other than new bearings and sycros from your local shop is burning money on a factory gearset. I have an OSG gearset but if starting again would aim for getrag or tremec 6 speed if making the effort to remove a gearbox.
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