Too cheap to buy a fire extinguisher for your car?
06-04-06, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alienrotor
How much time does one really have to get out, open the hood, keep the hood propped up and open fire with and extinguisher? Where do you shoot? Is there a typical trouble spot?
Im assuming by the time you see flame out of the hood, it might be too late.
What are the dangers? Can anything in the engine bay explode? or is the main risk a large amount of fuel being dispersed under the car quickly if something does burst/melt?
I have a small extinguisher that the previous owner purchased.
Im assuming by the time you see flame out of the hood, it might be too late.
What are the dangers? Can anything in the engine bay explode? or is the main risk a large amount of fuel being dispersed under the car quickly if something does burst/melt?
I have a small extinguisher that the previous owner purchased.
Nothing in the engine bay will/should explode. Yet, you have to be very careful in case of an engine fire to open the hood. You have to be ready to jump back. With the closed hood (in an almost airtight upper engine compartment such as the FD), there is a shortage of oxigen to feed the fire. The moment you open the hood, you supply extra oxigen to the fire wich will/could really flare up at that moment and scorch the person doing the hood opening or even cause very serious injuries to the eye...etc...
Once when my race car engine blew an oil fllter and the resulting high pressure oil spill caused in instant engine fire, I drove off the track and into some tall green grass which cut the oxigen supply off and put out the fire by itself. Don't count on such luck with your street car.
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06-04-06, 06:42 PM
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if anyone remembers johns beautiful BB FD... 1 fire extinguisher wont do because it might be fucked up... even if you just bought it 15 minites ago at home depot (which is what he did)... sad... everything melted.. even his nice 5 spoke rims...
06-04-06, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bajaman
I've got a fire extinguisher in my car, have had it for some time now. But realistically, a fuel fire gets out of hand REAL QUICK!
I've got an automatic HALON system in my boat, it kicks ***. Sadly though, HALON was decided to be one of those 'bad' gasses that was contributing to the Greenhouse Effect. So systems with HALON are hard to get now.
I've got an automatic HALON system in my boat, it kicks ***. Sadly though, HALON was decided to be one of those 'bad' gasses that was contributing to the Greenhouse Effect. So systems with HALON are hard to get now.
1) That's why realistically, you'd want an extinguisher system on the car (if you're serious about modding the car, and thus serious about saving it).
2) You can get halon quite easily from http://www.h3r.com/ They're *the* halon specialists.
Originally Posted by alienrotor
How much time does one really have to get out, open the hood, keep the hood propped up and open fire with and extinguisher?
So what's the best solution? As mentioned above, a halon system w/ a nozzle in the engine bay, and a nozzle on the gas tank. That's 5 - 10 lbs of halon right there. For a third nozzle in the interior, you'd DEF need 10 lbs, maybe 15. And I'm not pulling this outta my a$$; this comes straight from some of the most accomplished racecar fabricators.
~Ramy
06-04-06, 10:18 PM
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FM-200 - Halon alternative
The current "environmentally friendly" replacement for Halon is FM-200. FM-200 is an inprovement over Halon in that humans can survive in a room (or car interior) filled with it as it is the same gas used in inhalers to disperse medication. Additionally, as Halon becomes harder to obtain, FM-200 will be more cost effective (it appears to be more expensive than Halon now).
Sea-Fire (www.sea-fire.com) in Maryland makes automatic and manual systems for both cars and boats (the boat systems are used by more than 200 manufactures). Additionally, www.h3r.com that was recommended services FM-200 systems as well.
FM-200 is available in both handheld extinguishers and installed supression systems.
Sea-Fire (www.sea-fire.com) in Maryland makes automatic and manual systems for both cars and boats (the boat systems are used by more than 200 manufactures). Additionally, www.h3r.com that was recommended services FM-200 systems as well.
FM-200 is available in both handheld extinguishers and installed supression systems.
06-04-06, 10:47 PM
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06-05-06, 07:23 AM
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The car belongs to BlitzBoy, a member of www.mazdarotaryclub.com . He was travelling to the annual www.Rotorstock.com event. The fire was due to a leak from the Swirl pot. He said that a spark from the cars indicator ignited the fuel and the whole back of the car lit up in flames... As for the guy taking the picture, he was one of the many who tried their best to put out the flames, but had no luck. you can read about it HERE
i definatly hope the driver has a low deductable. DEFINATLY keep a fire extinguisher with you at all times! i'm a first gen guy and i always keep an extinguisher with me.
06-06-06, 11:59 AM
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Ramy has it right, Halon is the way to go, and when dealing with fire suppresion more is good.
I just got my 5lb Halon off Ebay for under $80, Hydro tested in 2005. Now its time to save for a Halon system.
I hate to mention it but the value of my white FD just went up
I just got my 5lb Halon off Ebay for under $80, Hydro tested in 2005. Now its time to save for a Halon system.
I hate to mention it but the value of my white FD just went up
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What mods can you do to help cut back on the chance of fire?? Most fires start from the fuel rail if I remeber.....upgrading to braided lines to the existing fuel rail?? New fuel rail and braided lines??
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