3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Tiger strip down

Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:50 PM
  #1  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Tiger strip down

Ok guys.I spent a couple of hours stripping my so called good compression engine from the famous tiger.Only took me ten months to start on it.Ive stripped it back to the block.Long story short bought the eng and trans ,But got my money back and got to keep the eng and box. Well if any one is interested i will post up some pix as i strip the block and you can see first hand how a tiger engine is a bad engine.Let me know if you want pix and i will continue with this thread.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:02 PM
  #2  
cptpain's Avatar
Torqueless Wonder
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,020
Likes: 3
From: Texas
obviously we want pix.....

we cant get enough of them!!
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:17 PM
  #3  
KaiFD3S's Avatar
SINFUL7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 1
From: Alaska
Hmmmm...Who is this popular Tiger, never heard of him..or the Company
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:39 PM
  #4  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Tiger strip down

^ some one will enlighten you. Ok so the pix so far.1, the block. 2, the ATK engine plate and signs of a fresh rebuild,All new parts by the look of them. 3, No diffusers under the injectors,would this engine of even run. 4, Chip in tip on rear rotor , found when turbos were removed. And the last one is sand on engine, quite a lot in the down pipe. I might of got no 3 and 4 around the wrong way. More pix as i progress.





Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:44 PM
  #5  
Mahjik's Avatar
Mr. Links
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 27,595
Likes: 43
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
Hmmmm...Who is this popular Tiger, never heard of him..or the Company
http://www.tigerjapanese.com/
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:47 PM
  #6  
KaiFD3S's Avatar
SINFUL7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,574
Likes: 1
From: Alaska
Thanks Mahjik, they seem to be a legit company but you know this days anybody can be shady just as long as they make the money...

Sorry man, at least you got your money back + keep the goods
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:52 PM
  #7  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
Thanks Mahjik, they seem to be a legit company but you know this days anybody can be shady just as long as they make the money...

Sorry man, at least you got your money back + keep the goods
Thanks,I paid by mastercard and you get full insurance.Never buy any outher way.Gave tiger around 4 emails asking them to collect and they never even contacted me, and under uk law you can disspose of the goods as you see fit,If they dont bother to collect.I gave them 4 months.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 04:56 PM
  #8  
yourmom23's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: Montana
How have they not gone out of buisness yet, someone needs to put them out of thier missery, they broke half the **** on my 20v 4ag
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:18 PM
  #9  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Tiger strip down

Ok guys, Got my fly wheel brake tool today from ebay seller, the_fd3s
Item number: 320328790448 he has 4 more availible. And my 3/4" ratchet $20 second hand and my 54mm socket $8 brand new, So more pics to follow. Flywheel removal tomor. Ive tried the flywheel tool and its great, Grab yourselves a bargain quick.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:26 PM
  #10  
staticguitar313's Avatar
R.I.P. Icemark
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,229
Likes: 1
From: gilbert, arizona
can't wait to see the insides of that mess.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:41 PM
  #11  
Rixio_Scon's Avatar
400Rwhp Seq Twins Baby!!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: "Sunny" ol England
Unless they themselves strip each engine/tranny out of the working car how would they know if it was any good?

Post more pics please...

My last engine from a "Reputable" tuner over here had no injector diffusers either. I dont imagine it makes a huge difference at WOT, but I can assume that must have been why my idle and low revs were ****
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:35 PM
  #12  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Tiger strip down

Ok Guys, My ol fella and dave hg stripped down the engine last week. The rear rotor is shot and so is the housing, Pick up on the front and rear bearings and pick up on front rotor bearing. The plates are excellent as is the front rotor housing, So not to bad really. My ol fella and dave will be putting it back together over the next week or two and will post up pix of reassembly. Will post up pix of the rear housing and rotor asap.Looks like the top of the three peice tip fell out and fuuuuuucked the rotor and housing, My ol fella reckons this was during assembly as the plates are like new.pix to follow.Rix
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 07:35 PM
  #13  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Most likely detonation rather than a bad build. Who is your 'ol fella?' I don't think we have those in the U.S.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:11 PM
  #14  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Most likely detonation rather than a bad build. Who is your 'ol fella?' I don't think we have those in the U.S.
My ol fella is my wonderful dad, Who maintains and repairs my fd for me. I call him ol fella short for old fella just to wind him up as he is only 37.lol
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:15 PM
  #15  
Ceylon's Avatar
Non Runner
Tenured Member: 15 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 282
From: Somerset, England
Are you sure that you're not from somerset
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:29 PM
  #16  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
tiger

Originally Posted by Ceylon
Are you sure that you're not from somerset
no mate,near you i think ,about 10 min from atomic
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:46 PM
  #17  
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
Sharp Claws
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 50
From: Central Florida
this thread is full of fail and retardation.

1)the engine is obviously older and has been installed for some time(either in your car or in another).
2) sand on the engine? do you think they threw dirt on it before they sold it to you?
3)who did the install and what does it have to do with the engine manufacturer?
4)you got a questionable rebuilt motor from a "used" engine seller, you don't know who installed it, you didn't get compression readings? you didn't have a shop do one? you didn't inspect for damaged seals before installing it? you didn't give much of **** at all for information....

i seriously don't know what to think except that you only have yourself to blame and if i was tigerjapanese i'd tell you to go get hosed too if you gave such little info in response before a threat on a public forum.

the only thing i really can guess is that you bought the motor used, sat on it for a year without inspecting it, wanted a pristine looking pressure washed motor(i don't recommend pressure washing by the way...) and found it had a chipped seal. yes i would consider that bad business if they claimed that it had good compression.

moral of the story: don't be so ******* vague!
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #18  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Originally Posted by Karack
this thread is full of fail and retardation.

1)the engine is obviously older and has been installed for some time.
2) sand on the engine? do you think they threw dirt on it before they sold it to you?
3)who did the install and what does it have to do with the engine manufacturer?
4)what kind of builder installs chipped/broken apex seals? none. because you or the installer popped the motor by doing things incorrectly.
Sounds like you work for them, Where does it say installed chipped or broken,have you seen inside the engine , No , It was prob sat in a corner for a while gathering sand after removal , read it all correctly and see the pix retardation master. Also it was inspected for damage when it was shipped and deliverd, and that was when we could see the damage through the port, Its been sat for a while waiting to be stripped, and when a complete engine with cut pipes and wiring turns up, that was advertised as complete and all wiring and pipe work complete you know the company are just a bunch of chancers and jokers who aint worth a pot of ****.

Last edited by RIX-7; Jul 21, 2009 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Additional info
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 01:04 PM
  #19  
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
Sharp Claws
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 50
From: Central Florida
i fly out on weekends to england or wherever to build motors for them, i throw sand on them and only use apex seals that are cracked.

i also be sure to include a packing list which describes how to post on a forum, giving absolutely no details about said transaction.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 01:35 PM
  #20  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
tiger

Originally Posted by Karack
i fly out on weekends to england or wherever to build motors for them, i throw sand on them and only use apex seals that are cracked.

i also be sure to include a packing list which describes how to post on a forum, giving absolutely no details about said transaction.
Ha,Want your sand back.,
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 02:35 PM
  #21  
MakoRacing's Avatar
Where has my $ gone?
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,653
Likes: 7
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Karack
i fly out on weekends to england or wherever to build motors for them, i throw sand on them and only use apex seals that are cracked.

i also be sure to include a packing list which describes how to post on a forum, giving absolutely no details about said transaction.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 04:30 PM
  #22  
RIX-7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: rotorland
Info

Karack , Just for you i will start afresh. The company name used is totally made up and is being used as an example. My engine was blown and i searched the web for a quality replacement, I found a company called karackjapanese, They advertised low km, compression tested engines with gear box for lets say $1600. Looked at the pictures and read the description, Which stated that it had 25000 to 50000km and had been compression tested and fully inspected, Was complete with all wiring, pipes, etc. They would accept paypal, creditcard etc etc. So i phoned up and spoke to karack the master engine seller and he assured me that it was a low km good compession complete engine just like the picture, What was in the picture you got . So I got my Dad to buy it with his credit card so as to ensure the purchase was insured. So karackjapanese shipped the engine and tranny to the uk to my installers. On the day of delivery, My installers removed the turbos to carry out pre installation checks on the rotors, This was when it was noticed that the rear rotor had a chipped tip and one had the top of the three peice tip missing. Photos were taken and sent by email of the damage, Karackjapanese were very slow in responding to both phone and their online claim form, ANd were not very helpful . Any way creditcard company issued a full refund and karackjapanese never bothered to collect their goods, So after the permitted time, and more, the bad engine became mine. So after sitting in the workshop for a long time ,I decided to start stripping it down to the block and my dad and dave hg would strip the core to see what parts were good and to rebuild it. This post is to show outher members my good compression tested engine that was really a blown engine, And just to post up pix of the damage. Anyone who knowingly sells a fd owner a dud engine or agrees with selling crap parts to make a couple of bucks is an *******.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:46 PM
  #23  
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
Sharp Claws
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 50
From: Central Florida
just say who the company was, no need to beat around the bush.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:23 PM
  #24  
Mahjik's Avatar
Mr. Links
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 27,595
Likes: 43
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by Karack
just say who the company was, no need to beat around the bush.
The company is (and has been) in the title of the thread. http://www.tigerjapanese.com/
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:34 PM
  #25  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
This is why it is always best to pay a reputable builder to tear down a motor to be inspected and professionally rebuilt.

JDM motors always have been and always will be a gamble.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:39 AM.