Thinking of selling! what do you think its worth?
03-10-09, 06:09 PM
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Well if he does have the stock parts and is in of money, he can sell the non essentials to get the ball rollng. Remember selling the car like that isnt helping you, its hurting you. You're basically giving money away as you sell the car. Might as well milk it for as much as you can.
The car would still be intact and can run so it will always be able to sell.
Audio equipment, gauges, hood, bumper, maybe even wheels (although stock wheels would look weird on the flared rears).
Thats a couple of grand right there.
The car would still be intact and can run so it will always be able to sell.
Audio equipment, gauges, hood, bumper, maybe even wheels (although stock wheels would look weird on the flared rears).
Thats a couple of grand right there.
03-10-09, 11:40 PM
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If the trans is good, the bushings have been replaced and the compression is good etc... I'd think the right buyer would pay 18k. IMO 20k is a stretch because very few people are buying toys at this time and things will get worse before they get better so you're looking at a 1 to 2 year soft market. This is the best car buyers market of the century so with that in mind take 20k and go shopping and you'll be amazed at the deals you can find which will make taking a loss on your car much easier to stomach.
If you have the time I'd recommend converting it to stock to make it a more attractive/practical car for an easier sale while recouping some of your investement in the mods.
Best of luck
If you have the time I'd recommend converting it to stock to make it a more attractive/practical car for an easier sale while recouping some of your investement in the mods.
Best of luck
03-11-09, 08:57 AM
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We just sold a 95 fd with 5xxxx original miles for $20k. People are out there ready to buy. Autotrader has very few cars posted on there right now. While craigslist is great, it still isnt as good as autotrader.
When you advertise the car you need to heavily push the dyno numbers. Dyno numbers and track times make it much easier to sell a high end car. Not a lot of 480rwhp fds running around on pump gas.
When you advertise the car you need to heavily push the dyno numbers. Dyno numbers and track times make it much easier to sell a high end car. Not a lot of 480rwhp fds running around on pump gas.
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03-11-09, 09:04 AM
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I noticed when selling FD's on your local auto trader they call for a higher price as opposed to selling on this forum.
I wouldn't pay more than 17k for a single turbo FD. Everyone knows you wont get the money you put into the car back.
03-11-09, 09:56 AM
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Im not pressed to sell now just wondering wat it would go for if i decided to list it in the summer time or when the economy turns around.
Also not interested in taking parts off so when I do list it, it will be as is
Also not interested in taking parts off so when I do list it, it will be as is
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A highly modified FD will not bring a penny more than a bone stock one unless you find the right buyer...in fact many times stock FD's bring more $$$. People are blowing smoke when they say 17K-20K again maybe to the guy whose dream car consist of everything your car has, or sold by dealer who specializes in RX-7’s. I hate to be the one to break the news but RIGHT NOW in the current market you will doing good to get about 6K-9K for it.... people will come out to say im full of ****...do about 3 minutes worth of research and you will know im telling the truth. Check- This board! Craigslist, eBay, Auto trader or Local sales... sure you can find tons of people asking big $$$ but they don’t sell…they just sit there For Sale.
Keep in mind that the people that have responded to your thread ARE FD OWNERS the last thing they want to hear or admit is that their cars are worth about 1/2 what they were worth a year ago. I feel sorry for them ... its sad but true… just hold onto it the market will bounce back someday and you should sell then if you’re considering it.
This is the GOLDEN RULE for car sales “A car is only worth what you CAN sell it for”
Keep in mind that the people that have responded to your thread ARE FD OWNERS the last thing they want to hear or admit is that their cars are worth about 1/2 what they were worth a year ago. I feel sorry for them ... its sad but true… just hold onto it the market will bounce back someday and you should sell then if you’re considering it.
This is the GOLDEN RULE for car sales “A car is only worth what you CAN sell it for”
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Im not Nostradamus...but hey what can I say....LMFAO....scrool down to the selling section of this very board, PM anyone on there selling thier FD and ask what kind of offers they are getting, look at ebay completed auctions, look at the back log on Craigslist and call and ask what they sold it for. Guess what...im am in the market to buy an FD and I DID my homework.
03-12-09, 07:13 PM
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BTW...OP.. I love the look of your car....I myself would offer you much more.... not trying to discourage you in anyway...just stating the facts on the research I have done over the past few weeks and I have no reason to lie about a hypathetical question based on todays market..
03-12-09, 08:11 PM
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Every month or so some FC owner wanders into the 3rd gen section talking a bunch of nonsense about finding FD's left and right for under 10k, and they NEVER follow up on it. Sure you can find salvage title FD's for 6-9k but that doesn't have anything to do with clean well built or original cars. You've done some homework but you got all the answers wrong buddy.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
03-12-09, 08:48 PM
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True but the price FD's sell for cosides with their value.
If people keep selling their FD for 12-15k, they will value in that area for the same form of FD.
Thats why i strongly urge sellers to be FIRM on their asking price. Dont lowball yourself if you dont have to, it only hurts the entire market for these cars.
If people keep selling their FD for 12-15k, they will value in that area for the same form of FD.
Thats why i strongly urge sellers to be FIRM on their asking price. Dont lowball yourself if you dont have to, it only hurts the entire market for these cars.
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Every month or so some FC owner wanders into the 3rd gen section talking a bunch of nonsense about finding FD's left and right for under 10k, and they NEVER follow up on it. Sure you can find salvage title FD's for 6-9k but that doesn't have anything to do with clean well built or original cars. You've done some homework but you got all the answers wrong buddy.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
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True but the price FD's sell for cosides with their value.
If people keep selling their FD for 12-15k, they will value in that area for the same form of FD.
Thats why i strongly urge sellers to be FIRM on their asking price. Dont lowball yourself if you dont have to, it only hurts the entire market for these cars.
If people keep selling their FD for 12-15k, they will value in that area for the same form of FD.
Thats why i strongly urge sellers to be FIRM on their asking price. Dont lowball yourself if you dont have to, it only hurts the entire market for these cars.
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Every month or so some FC owner wanders into the 3rd gen section talking a bunch of nonsense about finding FD's left and right for under 10k, and they NEVER follow up on it. Sure you can find salvage title FD's for 6-9k but that doesn't have anything to do with clean well built or original cars. You've done some homework but you got all the answers wrong buddy.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
Just because owners who have their cars listed on here and on eBay are getting **** offers for under 10k doesn't reflect the value of their car unless they're willing to sell for that price. By your logic a car is worth whatever cheap lowballing high school kids offer you for it. When I sold one of my FD's last fall I had offers from 4500-9000 everyday. Does that mean that my car was worth that? No, it means that there are a ton of lowballing idiots who waste everyones time, probably similar to what you're offering people. I sold the FD for exactly what I wanted a month later to someone who understands that you get what you pay for. If someone was selling a $300,000 car and a hundred people offer the guy $50,000 for it, does that mean his car is only worth 50k? No, it means a hundred dreamers just wasted everyones time.
03-12-09, 09:14 PM
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88rxvert, I spend a LOT of time in the 3rd Gen car FS section and there are most definitely not clean FDs selling for $6-9k. The ones that are are either
(a) have a blown engine
(b) are slushboxes
(c) have a salvage title
(d) have been in at least one pretty bad accident
(e) are ghetto-rigged with shitbox ebay mods or
(f) some combination of the above.
If you want a nice FD, you're paying 12-15K on up.
(a) have a blown engine
(b) are slushboxes
(c) have a salvage title
(d) have been in at least one pretty bad accident
(e) are ghetto-rigged with shitbox ebay mods or
(f) some combination of the above.
If you want a nice FD, you're paying 12-15K on up.
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88rxvert, I spend a LOT of time in the 3rd Gen car FS section and there are most definitely not clean FDs selling for $6-9k. The ones that are either
(a) have a blown engine
(b) are slushboxes
(c) have a salvage title
(d) have been in at least one pretty bad accident
(e) are ghetto-rigged with shitbox ebay mods or
(f) some combination of the above.
If you want a nice FD, you're paying 12-15K on up.
(a) have a blown engine
(b) are slushboxes
(c) have a salvage title
(d) have been in at least one pretty bad accident
(e) are ghetto-rigged with shitbox ebay mods or
(f) some combination of the above.
If you want a nice FD, you're paying 12-15K on up.
03-12-09, 09:31 PM
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I will say that eBay is a great gauge of the current market..the way the bidding works it shows what buyer are willing to pay. Both by what they did sell for and what they didnt sell for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $10.500 Buy it Now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___Twin-Turbo-5sp-great-condition-wheels-and-more_W0QQitemZ120386407906QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item120386407906&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=6 5%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 SOLD $10.000
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $7950.00 high bid.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 14K miles… $8000.00 high bid
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Dint sell… Buy it now $9800.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didnt sell High bid $6500.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…high bid $6100.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 No sale $5900.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Dint sell…. high bid $5900.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Didn’t sell high bid $5300.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…Buy it now $8500.00
We could take a trip on this board if you guys want...but im not trying to offend anyone on the board selling thier car...I was simply answering the OP's question based on my own research.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $10.500 Buy it Now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___Twin-Turbo-5sp-great-condition-wheels-and-more_W0QQitemZ120386407906QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item120386407906&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=6 5%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 SOLD $10.000
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $7950.00 high bid.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 14K miles… $8000.00 high bid
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Dint sell… Buy it now $9800.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didnt sell High bid $6500.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…high bid $6100.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 No sale $5900.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Dint sell…. high bid $5900.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Didn’t sell high bid $5300.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…Buy it now $8500.00
We could take a trip on this board if you guys want...but im not trying to offend anyone on the board selling thier car...I was simply answering the OP's question based on my own research.
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88rxvert - you're giving us a headache man...
I'm a little bummed that such a nice car would only fetch $20K according to the resident experts here. Fritzflynn knows better than anyone.
I have to agree with the idea of throwing it on Autotrader. Anyone that spends time on this site will ALWAYS lowball you because they know all the same things about the car (strengths and weaknesses). Pay for a cheap add out on Autotrader for $27K and see if there is a bite. There are a lot of people with plenty of money on the sidelines right now. You might find some younger guy that makes $200K and has some cash to throw at a fun car.
Good luck & nice car. I always liked those Pettit flares when done right.
I'm a little bummed that such a nice car would only fetch $20K according to the resident experts here. Fritzflynn knows better than anyone.
I have to agree with the idea of throwing it on Autotrader. Anyone that spends time on this site will ALWAYS lowball you because they know all the same things about the car (strengths and weaknesses). Pay for a cheap add out on Autotrader for $27K and see if there is a bite. There are a lot of people with plenty of money on the sidelines right now. You might find some younger guy that makes $200K and has some cash to throw at a fun car.
Good luck & nice car. I always liked those Pettit flares when done right.
03-12-09, 10:57 PM
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A young guy making $200k pa (a rare breed) will probably spend a lot more than $27k on a car and, if he does spend that amount, he has E46 M3s, E39 M5s, B6 S4s, 911s with the funny headlights, EVOs, STis etc. to chose from.
I really don't know why so many people still think that modifications add value to a car when all evidence points to the contrary. (That said, the $6-$9k estimate is silly - though if the economy continues on its current trajectory it may be plausible in a year.)
03-12-09, 11:39 PM
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Back to your eBay links:
I will say that eBay is a great gauge of the current market..the way the bidding works it shows what buyer are willing to pay. Both by what they did sell for and what they didnt sell for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $10.500 Buy it Now
This is a RHD car and worthless for registering for street use. No reason it should be included in this conversation.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___Twin-Turbo-5sp-great-condition-wheels-and-more_W0QQitemZ120386407906QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item120386407906&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=6 5%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 SOLD $10.000
70k Miles with original engine and no compression #'s, 10k is reasonable considering it's in poor shape and modded poorly
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $7950.00 high bid.
High bids don't mean anything, like I said in my first post. What does the $7950 high bid prove other than he was being lowballed?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 14K miles… $8000.00 high bid
14k Miles on a rebuilt motor, no documentation of original miles or other issues. But again, 8000 high bid means nothing if it didn't sell. I could bid 8000 on a Ferrari Enzo, if that was the high bid at the auction end does that mean the Enzo is only worth 8000? No, use some common sense.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Dint sell… Buy it now $9800.00
This is the same car from the 3rd link you posted, with mods & 100k miles, $9800 is a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didnt sell High bid $6500.00
144,000 miles. But again, high bids mean nothing without sales.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…high bid $6100.00
This is the same car you listed twice already. You're not that tricky.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 No sale $5900.00
Car has 136,000 miles. But a high bid means nothing without a sale.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Dint sell…. high bid $5900.00
215,000 miles and in poor condition all around, I know you're not that dumb. But again, no sale = doesn't matter what the high bid is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Didn’t sell high bid $5300.00
Owner stated in the ad "My bottom line is 16,500 so thats the reserve to hit here" which is a fair price. $5300 high bid means he was lowballed
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…Buy it now $8500.00
72000 miles with and ENGINE FIRE. In no way reflecting the market value.
We could take a trip on this board if you guys want...but im not trying to offend anyone on the board selling thier car...I was simply answering the OP's question based on my own research.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $10.500 Buy it Now
This is a RHD car and worthless for registering for street use. No reason it should be included in this conversation.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___Twin-Turbo-5sp-great-condition-wheels-and-more_W0QQitemZ120386407906QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item120386407906&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=6 5%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 SOLD $10.000
70k Miles with original engine and no compression #'s, 10k is reasonable considering it's in poor shape and modded poorly
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 $7950.00 high bid.
High bids don't mean anything, like I said in my first post. What does the $7950 high bid prove other than he was being lowballed?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 14K miles… $8000.00 high bid
14k Miles on a rebuilt motor, no documentation of original miles or other issues. But again, 8000 high bid means nothing if it didn't sell. I could bid 8000 on a Ferrari Enzo, if that was the high bid at the auction end does that mean the Enzo is only worth 8000? No, use some common sense.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Dint sell… Buy it now $9800.00
This is the same car from the 3rd link you posted, with mods & 100k miles, $9800 is a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didnt sell High bid $6500.00
144,000 miles. But again, high bids mean nothing without sales.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…high bid $6100.00
This is the same car you listed twice already. You're not that tricky.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 No sale $5900.00
Car has 136,000 miles. But a high bid means nothing without a sale.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Dint sell…. high bid $5900.00
215,000 miles and in poor condition all around, I know you're not that dumb. But again, no sale = doesn't matter what the high bid is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318Didn’t sell high bid $5300.00
Owner stated in the ad "My bottom line is 16,500 so thats the reserve to hit here" which is a fair price. $5300 high bid means he was lowballed
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318 Didn’t sell…Buy it now $8500.00
72000 miles with and ENGINE FIRE. In no way reflecting the market value.
We could take a trip on this board if you guys want...but im not trying to offend anyone on the board selling thier car...I was simply answering the OP's question based on my own research.
03-13-09, 12:07 AM
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BTW...OP.. I love the look of your car....I myself would offer you much more.... not trying to discourage you in anyway...just stating the facts on the research I have done over the past few weeks and I have no reason to lie about a hypathetical question based on todays market..
Just having a good time, but you are seriously way off on your guess of what the car is worth even in this bad economy.
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The bottom line is no one can accurately predict what ANY FD would sell for. List the car for what you think it is worth and wait for the right buyer to come along.
At 21 I bought my first FD, it had a salvage title for 11K. Sold it a few years later to a friend for 13.5K He modded the hell out of it and ended up selling it for 19K, I never thought he would get 19K for a car with a salvage history but he did.
The economy is bad right for most but some are doing better than ever and will spend the money. List the car for what you think it is worth and drop the price if needed.
Anthony
At 21 I bought my first FD, it had a salvage title for 11K. Sold it a few years later to a friend for 13.5K He modded the hell out of it and ended up selling it for 19K, I never thought he would get 19K for a car with a salvage history but he did.
The economy is bad right for most but some are doing better than ever and will spend the money. List the car for what you think it is worth and drop the price if needed.
Anthony