[SLO NIZ]

gonna try to be as calm as i can about this. Just finished changing my oil and flushed radiator and added new 30-70 mix of coolant.

Warmed her up and decided to go for a wee drive, as i pull in to the gas station just coming out from my street i hear this chaffing noise come from the engine, so i open up the bonnet and WTF! THERES OIL EVERYWHERE! i quickly drove the car back down my street (so low oil pressure light only came on for about 10secs). Also i think its nicely drained most if not all the oil i just put in it, (on the service station floor .....)

I ve taken some pics of it and i honestly dont know what to make of it, my car has never done this until this time of changin the oil i ve changed the oil a few times b4 on it too, oil filter snug tight, oil drain plug on tight, oil cap obviously back on? wtf!? In the pic i ve noticed theres a shiny pipe that has nothing connected onto it so im hoping that s the culprit? Any help would be much appreciated as im on the brink of jumping out my window. What in the nine hells!!!???

BigIslandSevens

iTrader: (4)

is your PCV hooked up?If you have that in NZ Otherwise maybe you filler neck gasket decided to go on vacation on you. but that pipe looks like the most likely suspect to me as well. I am just trying to picture things on the opossite side of the engine bay.

You don't have the catch tank that bolts under the intake elbow in NZ do you?

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

I suggest you remove your EGI fuse, refill the engine with some oil, have a friend crank it while you watch in the bay (it will not start) and observe where the oil is gushing from.

That hose could be for an aftermarket oil pressure or temperature gauge? I have no idea what that would go to...it is not stock as far as I can tell.

[SLO NIZ]

Will do, i'll have a friend crank it over for me. The pipe is not from a gauge im pretty sure, the inside of that pipe looks to have a thread inside it so what or where the other side to beats me up! could it be some sort of a cap? i ask this beacuse just next to this pipe, theres also another pip that looks quite similar and has a small plastic cap on it, the cap on this pipe has a the ltter "L" on it too...?

oh man this ridicously sucks.

John Magnuson

Check that oil filter. Sometimes the rubber seal from the old filter will stick on the engine and when you put the new filter on you have two seals. This causes a big time leak between the seals.

1SxyRXy

make sure your old oil filter O ring didnt stay on the oil neck and u screwed the new filter right on top of it.

Toadman

Mag and SXV are likely correct. You may have "double-gasketed" the filter install.

[SLO NIZ]

Nope, as much as i hoped i did just double gasket it its not, the old filter still has its rubber seal around it (i always smear some old oil around the ring b4 i change it everytime anyway)

Juan

iTrader: (28)

Could it be one of your air conditioning hard pipes? This is all I can think of judging from your description of the other similar pipe with the "L" on the cap. Is your car right hand drive?

[SLO NIZ]

yes its a right hand drive, im not sure if theres oil in a A/C pipe, ill try 2moro to put some more oil in it and crank it over.

DamonB

My car looked just like that when the mechanic didn't screw the oil filter on tight. I drove my car for about a week with no problems and raced it on the weekend. No trouble for the first couple runs and then the engine spewed oil everywhere exactly like your pics. I could easily turn the filter using just two fingers it was so loose Tightened it up and it's been fine since.

I think you have the same problem. Notice how above the filter everything is clean and everything below is dirty? Mine looked exactly like that, except worse!



There is oil in the a/c but only a cup or so at the most. That is certainly not from the a/c.

dubulup

just to mention it...it's not a low oil pressure light, its a low oil level light.

and use clean engine oil when rubbing the o-ring down.

$0.02

tiger18

iTrader: (1)

the 2 silver pipes with screw threads (one marked with L) are the air conditioning pipes (refil, bleed points). no oil in there... i suspect like one of the guys said,,,,the culprit been the oil filter. unscrew it and have a look,,,,is only 2 min job

[SLO NIZ]

Will check oil filter in the morning again,

What do u think the chaffing noise is then? It started to do that at the same time the engine leaked all the oil out.

Cheers for all the great ideas and helps btw

[SLO NIZ]

Ok just checked the oil filter and its still tight on there so that rules the easy fix out

here it goes, if that pipe is infact the air conditioning pipe and someone mentioned that it DOES have oil but no where no enough to drain all me oil out then i guess im screwed? cos what else could it be?

1. Its not the oil filter because its still tight
2. Cant be the pipe with no end cos it doesnt hold enough oil to drain the entire block dry

***PULLS BITS OF HAIR OUR!!!***

DaleClark

iTrader: (55)

I would remove the filter and inspect the mating surfaces - even if it's on there tight, there could be some other problem, like a bad gasket, a wire that got caught between the filter and the pedastal, etc.

With that verified OK, I would fill up the oil, have a buddy start the car, and watch for where the oil is coming from. With a leak this big, it should be VERY obvious VERY fast where the oil is coming from.

Once you know where the leak is, it should be easy to take care of.

Dale

DamonB

Yeah, swap the oil filter first to be certain the gasket or filter itself didn't fail. Always do the cheap and easy stuff first before going to the hard, time consuming expensive things. It amazes me how people always assume the cause of the problem is the most esoteric thing they can invent. Rule out the easy stuff first!

The only things in that area carrying oil are the oil filter and stand and the hardpipe coming from the filter stand and heading to the oil cooler. It's not the friggin air conditioning!

Jodeny

iTrader: (3)

Remove the filter and check to make sure the oring isn't damaged or even missing. Also check the oil pressure sender to see if its tight. Eliminate the simple first. Sucha large oil leak is easy to find.
John

jeremyb

I was in your same state slowniz, I leaked just like that after my oil change. I kept thinking it was my filter. But I soon found out that my buddy loosened the hardpipe going from the oil filter pedastal to the oil cooler. I saw him with a 23mm in his hand but didnt mother to ask lol. I have no idea why he loosened it, but he cleaned up that area and bought me new oil so I didn't really get on his *** about it or anything . And yes the only things that carry oil are the oil pedastal, fillter cap(rarely any chance for oil to get up that high and squirt THAT much out.) and the hard pipe going from the pedastal to the block. to damonb for pointing out that its not the a/c line lol.

Jeremy

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

So have you done what I told you to yet? It isn't going to fix itself...you have to locate the leak first.

[SLO NIZ]

Blah! its now 10am so i just woke up! Getting tucked into it now boys, thanks for all the replys! But i really dont understand ive done oil changed before and why is it that i do it this time that it happens???

[SLO NIZ]

Well i ve found the prob! Thanks to everyones help and all of u were right about the filter, I myself was quite scepticle about the filter been the culprit as being the person that screwed it on i didnt notice anything different about screwing it on this time compared to all the others.

But no matter, the filter IS what caused it to leak cos it looks like someone has purposly taking the rubber ring gasket out and put it back on but in a slight angle thus creating no seal what so ever! *argh whys everyone looking at me? :P*

Theres a coupla pics and the pic with the rubber o ring from the oil filter is in the exact state when i un screwed it this morning, but i really still dont understand how it because situated like that tho, im assuming this is totally my fault so any precautions to take whilst doin the oil filter again?

Thanks again guys for ur inputs.

DamonB

Glad it was something simple. Looks like the gasket came loose from the filter when it was installed. No way the gasket could have moved over once the filter was tightened so it must have broke free and creeped over when you originally tightened it. That's one of the reasons it's always recommended to smear some oil onto the rubber gasket before installing a new filter.

spekdah

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-21374829.htm


u gettin rid of ur baby!! boo hoo hoo hoo !! make sure it goes to a decent owner

[SLO NIZ]

Lol, how are ya mate, yeah im afraid its time to let her go.