teaser :) project almost done.... within the next week.
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From: saint michael, MN
I love the satin black color. I'm looking forward to seeing finished pics with it out in the sunshine!
Also, don't worry about anyone giving you a hard time for your engine bay. I am more impressed by someone who isn't scared to do the work themselves, regardless. That's the fun of having a project, watching it evolve.
Also, don't worry about anyone giving you a hard time for your engine bay. I am more impressed by someone who isn't scared to do the work themselves, regardless. That's the fun of having a project, watching it evolve.
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thanks again everyone
Robert
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I pretty much agreed with all the pinpoints that the other guy pointed out (about why he called it ghetto). The thing about ghetto rigging is it gets the job done, just without a care as to how it looks, which seems to be what your attitude was to what people pointed out. Some race cars are done somewhat this way because they only pop the hood for mechanics/pit crew, and even they organize it somewhat just to make service easier. If working well is really all that matters, though, then you can keep it where it's at, but expect to hear more of the same if you pop the hood. If you want a little bit of friendly advice on how you can make improvements, then read on.
Keep in mind, constructive criticism here... The best thing to do to clean up a bay is to take each individual part and make it so that it does its job, and is as out of the way as possible. These two things are the paramount rules of thumb for engine bay cleanup/organizing.
Like you said about the hot side piping, it does the job, and although it's more efficient, I doubt you would NOTICE any performance difference by cutting back on the length and bends in the pipe, however, work with it a bit and you can probably straighten it out somehow. Welding an elbow or an angle of some sort right on the housing is an option. The best thing you can do for looks and performance is minimize couplers, so think about that, too. It would be a fairly timely, maybe expensive job, but would do wonders, so it's something to get to eventually.
Next thing is looking at the rest of the piping. Besides the mismatched couplers (also a pet peeve of mine), you've got mismatched finishes. UIM, intake elbow, hot side piping, cold side piping, and IC core piping all seem to be different finishes. There's another timely, somewhat expensive cleanup task. Powder coating is cheaper than getting your parts to a mirror finish, so there's something you could consider, too.
About the FPR... I don't doubt it's been running fine without issues, but being over the hot stuff is just going to make it a catalyst in a worst case scenario. Also, if a line begins to leak from a fitting, for example, it's pretty much instant inferno. This is more of a safety measure. Slim chances anything will happen, but if anything happens, it will be much more dangerous than leaking fuel on the cold side.
The Y-block...again, it works, but it can work just as well out of the way, too. Against the firewall, maybe? Under the UIM? Up to you, but if you can remove it from sight, your engine bay will look a lot better. The intake manifold that it's on top of is a much better show piece, anyways.
Then there's the stuff like the wiring/vacuum hoses mentioned before. Try tucking them away, zip tying them together, shortening the hoses, etc. Just take a step back and look at it and start thinking about where else these things could perform just as well, and look at what sticks out (in a bad way). Maybe some new rubber hoses, or silicon hoses would be a cheap bling item, if only to replace moldy or worn stuff.
Like I said, just start looking at everything with a "can that be moved out of the way?" stance, and you can slowly start finding ways of reorganizing and cleaning things up. The car looks good, otherwise, just stick with it and you'll have a great ride.
Keep in mind, constructive criticism here... The best thing to do to clean up a bay is to take each individual part and make it so that it does its job, and is as out of the way as possible. These two things are the paramount rules of thumb for engine bay cleanup/organizing.
Like you said about the hot side piping, it does the job, and although it's more efficient, I doubt you would NOTICE any performance difference by cutting back on the length and bends in the pipe, however, work with it a bit and you can probably straighten it out somehow. Welding an elbow or an angle of some sort right on the housing is an option. The best thing you can do for looks and performance is minimize couplers, so think about that, too. It would be a fairly timely, maybe expensive job, but would do wonders, so it's something to get to eventually.
Next thing is looking at the rest of the piping. Besides the mismatched couplers (also a pet peeve of mine), you've got mismatched finishes. UIM, intake elbow, hot side piping, cold side piping, and IC core piping all seem to be different finishes. There's another timely, somewhat expensive cleanup task. Powder coating is cheaper than getting your parts to a mirror finish, so there's something you could consider, too.
About the FPR... I don't doubt it's been running fine without issues, but being over the hot stuff is just going to make it a catalyst in a worst case scenario. Also, if a line begins to leak from a fitting, for example, it's pretty much instant inferno. This is more of a safety measure. Slim chances anything will happen, but if anything happens, it will be much more dangerous than leaking fuel on the cold side.
The Y-block...again, it works, but it can work just as well out of the way, too. Against the firewall, maybe? Under the UIM? Up to you, but if you can remove it from sight, your engine bay will look a lot better. The intake manifold that it's on top of is a much better show piece, anyways.
Then there's the stuff like the wiring/vacuum hoses mentioned before. Try tucking them away, zip tying them together, shortening the hoses, etc. Just take a step back and look at it and start thinking about where else these things could perform just as well, and look at what sticks out (in a bad way). Maybe some new rubber hoses, or silicon hoses would be a cheap bling item, if only to replace moldy or worn stuff.
Like I said, just start looking at everything with a "can that be moved out of the way?" stance, and you can slowly start finding ways of reorganizing and cleaning things up. The car looks good, otherwise, just stick with it and you'll have a great ride.
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Hey man, great project! Loving it mucho much. I wouldn't worry about what people think. You shouldn't have to even explain 'why' things are the way they are. They should just know that when you pull up beside them in that beast, to be very very scared!! VROOOOOM! lol.
Any way, i do have on thing (even though i said what i said above, lol). I have to agree with troux about the FPR. although it may work, it's just a safety issue that, if something were to happen, i'm sure none of us would like to turn on the news to a burnt up Satin Black FD. You know? Just something, that i think out of all things to think about, is something real important to consider.
Any way, i do have on thing (even though i said what i said above, lol). I have to agree with troux about the FPR. although it may work, it's just a safety issue that, if something were to happen, i'm sure none of us would like to turn on the news to a burnt up Satin Black FD. You know? Just something, that i think out of all things to think about, is something real important to consider.
i don't know if the diffuser has an actual opening or not, but maybe a grill would be good to cover the tank, if you get what i'm saying
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lol, no i finally got the one i ordered originally, about 3 months proir to the one i was talking to you about
its been REALLY freaking cold lol give me a break, soon my son soon.
everyone thanks !!!
its been REALLY freaking cold lol give me a break, soon my son soon.
everyone thanks !!!
