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Old 09-23-08, 06:32 PM
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T04E Turbine, How much horse power?

This is the current setup i'm thinking around 450 and a fuel pump/ bigger injectors would give this 500 +
What I don't get it 550 injectors are factory... my supplier said the turbine is rated at 450-550 hp, but 550 is stock injectors right ?


1992 13B
A complete engine overhaul was completed at 50,000klm.
,the turbine was fitted at this time.
HKS TO4E Turbine kit with stainless manifold and
large external wastegate.
550cc Injectors
HKS Air Cleaner
Front Mount Apexi Intercooler
3 Core Radiator
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Original Muffler
7 point roll cage
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need more info on the turbo to determine that (ex. what trim?)
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There's no way you're gonna make that much power on the stock injectors. I'm thinking you're gonna need 1600 secondaries.

http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/3rdgencalc.cgi
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Originally Posted by hondahater
need more info on the turbo to determine that (ex. what trim?)
the turbo is HKS so is the wastegate, thats all i know
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Originally Posted by Gene
There's no way you're gonna make that much power on the stock injectors. I'm thinking you're gonna need 1600 secondaries.

http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/3rdgencalc.cgi
if there are secondary injectors on the car where would I find them ?
he did mention greddy rebic controller so im assuming it has secondary
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I think you need to do some more homework...
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Originally Posted by need RX7
I think you need to do some more homework...
yes i know, goina put it on a dyno as soon as the car comes
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I was waiting for that. I just lack the proper finesse for that type of delivery
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Wow, you got a lot to learn. Go to the single turbo section and get your learn on. BTW, injectors are NOT rated for horse power. 550cc injectors does NOT mean its good for 550 hp, 550cc means cubic centimeters per minute were other injectors are rated for pounds per hour.

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Originally Posted by vr4much
yes i know, goina put it on a dyno as soon as the car comes
There's no way. If you put it through its paces on the dyno with full boost and those tiny injectors you're going to blow the motor.
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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
Wow, you got a lot to learn. Go to the single turbo section and get your learn on. BTW, injectors are NOT rated for horse power. 550cc injectors does NOT mean its good for 550 hp, 550cc means cubic centimeters per minute were other injectors are rated for pounds per hour.

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I never said injectors rate hp.... where did you get this ?

my supplier said this single + since its running on the aftermarket computer is capable of 450-550,
HKS rates this at 450-550 hp in 13b apps
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Your supplier is wrong.
You're lucky you'll make 300 at the wheels.


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and your other supplier, hes good, giving you tha **** that makes you think stock injectors support 500 hp
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Originally Posted by vr4much
I never said injectors rate hp.... where did you get this ?
Read your very first paragraph, it lead me to believe you thought injector #'s were equivilent to hp #'s.

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my supplier said this single + since its running on the aftermarket computer is capable of 450-550,
HKS rates this at 450-550 hp in 13b apps

The absolute biggest T04E (YES, they come in varies trims) 60 trim would barely and only if every thing is working correctly with GREAT tune, efficeint intercooler, large street port etc... make 400 at the wheels.

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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
Read your very first paragraph, it lead me to believe you thought injector #'s were equivilent to hp #'s.




The absolute biggest T04E (YES, they come in varies trims) 60 trim would barely and only if every thing is working correctly with GREAT tune, efficeint intercooler, large street port etc... make 400 at the wheels.

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well in the auction description he did say "oversized single turbine"
and it must have some sort of secondary injectors otherwise they would not be albe to drive the car from the yard in japan to the loading dock
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read on what you need what you are saying doesn't make sence all 13b motors have secondaries you need biggers ones.you probably need bigger primaries too.
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Ignorance FTW?

2 fast, 2 furious. Make sure ya don't blow the floor pan when you use all da NOS though......

Search. 500+ HP rotary takes a bit of work. Maybe get a 240SX? I hear all the kids now are putting SR20's in them. Then boost a bunch. But... don't forget the neon lights.....
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I believe the greddy rebic controller is for addtional injectors besides your primary and secondary injectors, I guess you can call them your tertiary injectors . So your car may have the 4x550cc/min injectors that come stock, + additional injector(s) controlled by the rebic. Take some picture of the car when after you buy it and post them here. Maybe then you will get more useful help with your car.
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typical T04E setup does low 300's...
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Originally Posted by vr4much
well in the auction description he did say "oversized single turbine"
You need to learn the difference between compressor and turbine terminology.It's nice to pull numbers like 450,500+ Hp out of one's ***..It gets a little harder/expensive to achieve those numbers on a 13b.
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Originally Posted by HHTurboVert
I believe the greddy rebic controller is for addtional injectors besides your primary and secondary injectors, I guess you can call them your tertiary injectors . So your car may have the 4x550cc/min injectors that come stock, + additional injector(s) controlled by the rebic. Take some picture of the car when after you buy it and post them here. Maybe then you will get more useful help with your car.
all igot is an engine bay/turbo/gate pic so far ill post some in 5-7 days when i bring the car over.
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turbos only suck in air. you still gotta do the fuel and spark control to make power.

they are rated @ specific CFMs / max cfm etc , but the rest of the details to make the most hp lies on your setup , ambient temps , standalone etc.

dont really hear alot of to4e making 400+ @ the wheels without alot of money put into it.

good luck other wise
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i, and im sure many others, are confused by this thread.

first off, what exactly did you buy? a complete car for japan?
2. when you say t04e turbine, do you actually mean the turbine wheel or the entire turbo itself?
3. figure out what you have injector and ECU wise so we can understand what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by buldozr
you say you have gto's, lets take the 'full of ****' test, what year, 5spd/6spd, which turbo(s), which intercoolers? If you pass I will help you.
93 gto stock turbos 5 speed
95 gto TD-05 trust greddy turbos 6 speed
not sure about intercooler i know its FMIC though with all piping aluminum
the rx7, see if you see any hints lol


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