so WTF, is my car a 1993 or a 1995?
I presume you have a 1993 touring kinda thing going on... and so would any buyer or lending institution.
BTW, how did you determine that you had a '95 interior vs '94? '94s came with dual air bags and all black interiors as well.
BTW, how did you determine that you had a '95 interior vs '94? '94s came with dual air bags and all black interiors as well.
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That's very interesting. If it was a stolen '93 that wouldn't explain the carfax report. Everything does suggest that it was built in '93 and then somehow was torn back down and rebuilt again at the factory. Maybe it was shipped to a dealer, damaged somehow while on the lot, and then returned to the factory for a rebuild without ever being registered. Although there is no shipping record back in '93 this may have simply been missed by CARFAX.
Wow, what a lot of overactive imaginations.
First, all we have to go on are the assertions by the original poster that he has several parts from a newer car ('94 or '95) on his '93. Until I see a picture of the rear subframe and a part number for the ABS unit, the only thing I'm convinced of is that someone liked a black interior better than tan. The car is still a '93.
Second, even if the vehicle was damaged prior to sale, it would not be sent back to Mazda for repair. It would be repaired at the dealership (or farmed out to a local auto body specialist if they didn't have on-site facilities) and repaired, or totalled by their insurance if the damage was sufficiently severe.
More likely, if the car was kept overseas and not exported (like mine was) during the production year it was originally built in, Mazda may have updated some of the interior and safety equipment (like the ABS unit) to meet newer regulations or to avoid warranty replacement of issues already known (like the flaking '93 interior panels). That would explain the second air bag and a newer ABS unit, but it still doesn't make the car a '95.
First, all we have to go on are the assertions by the original poster that he has several parts from a newer car ('94 or '95) on his '93. Until I see a picture of the rear subframe and a part number for the ABS unit, the only thing I'm convinced of is that someone liked a black interior better than tan. The car is still a '93.
Second, even if the vehicle was damaged prior to sale, it would not be sent back to Mazda for repair. It would be repaired at the dealership (or farmed out to a local auto body specialist if they didn't have on-site facilities) and repaired, or totalled by their insurance if the damage was sufficiently severe.
More likely, if the car was kept overseas and not exported (like mine was) during the production year it was originally built in, Mazda may have updated some of the interior and safety equipment (like the ABS unit) to meet newer regulations or to avoid warranty replacement of issues already known (like the flaking '93 interior panels). That would explain the second air bag and a newer ABS unit, but it still doesn't make the car a '95.
I'm still weirded out by the shipping record from '95. Maybe that's just wrong. If someone snatched a VIN tag from a wrecked '93 then I can't see why there would be a shipping record from '95 associated with that VIN. If the VIN was switched over carfax would begin reporting errornous data only from the point where the switch was made, and I doubt the car was stolen before it was shipped to the States. Can we get a copy of that report?
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Wow, what a lot of overactive imaginations.
First, all we have to go on are the assertions by the original poster that he has several parts from a newer car ('94 or '95) on his '93. Until I see a picture of the rear subframe and a part number for the ABS unit, the only thing I'm convinced of is that someone liked a black interior better than tan. The car is still a '93.
Second, even if the vehicle was damaged prior to sale, it would not be sent back to Mazda for repair. It would be repaired at the dealership (or farmed out to a local auto body specialist if they didn't have on-site facilities) and repaired, or totalled by their insurance if the damage was sufficiently severe.
More likely, if the car was kept overseas and not exported (like mine was) during the production year it was originally built in, Mazda may have updated some of the interior and safety equipment (like the ABS unit) to meet newer regulations or to avoid warranty replacement of issues already known (like the flaking '93 interior panels). That would explain the second air bag and a newer ABS unit, but it still doesn't make the car a '95.
First, all we have to go on are the assertions by the original poster that he has several parts from a newer car ('94 or '95) on his '93. Until I see a picture of the rear subframe and a part number for the ABS unit, the only thing I'm convinced of is that someone liked a black interior better than tan. The car is still a '93.
Second, even if the vehicle was damaged prior to sale, it would not be sent back to Mazda for repair. It would be repaired at the dealership (or farmed out to a local auto body specialist if they didn't have on-site facilities) and repaired, or totalled by their insurance if the damage was sufficiently severe.
More likely, if the car was kept overseas and not exported (like mine was) during the production year it was originally built in, Mazda may have updated some of the interior and safety equipment (like the ABS unit) to meet newer regulations or to avoid warranty replacement of issues already known (like the flaking '93 interior panels). That would explain the second air bag and a newer ABS unit, but it still doesn't make the car a '95.
yep, hows that go? pics or it didnt happen?
If you have the money:
(1) Buy a junker US FD
(2) Ship it to Japan for restoration
(3) Have it rebuilt to later specs or swap vins with a 2002 FD
(4) Ship back the 2002 to US, and entry will be a breeze due to having all the documents that it is a US car that was shiped to Japan for restroration.
(1) Buy a junker US FD
(2) Ship it to Japan for restoration
(3) Have it rebuilt to later specs or swap vins with a 2002 FD
(4) Ship back the 2002 to US, and entry will be a breeze due to having all the documents that it is a US car that was shiped to Japan for restroration.
Big debate on this car. I work at a Mazda dealer and hopefully I can shed some light on this VIN.
JM1FD3315P0205537
Model / Year RX7 TR P / 1993
Exterior Color PX - BRILLIANT BLACK-HI/R
Interior Color E3 - TAN
Assembly Date 04/26/1992
Retail Date 10/03/1992
There was also work done on the vehicle on 4/11/2005 when the car had 77,786 miles on it. So if the milage looks in line with what is currently on the car I would venture to say it probably jus had a facelift.
I hope this helps.
Grant
JM1FD3315P0205537
Model / Year RX7 TR P / 1993
Exterior Color PX - BRILLIANT BLACK-HI/R
Interior Color E3 - TAN
Assembly Date 04/26/1992
Retail Date 10/03/1992
There was also work done on the vehicle on 4/11/2005 when the car had 77,786 miles on it. So if the milage looks in line with what is currently on the car I would venture to say it probably jus had a facelift.
I hope this helps.
Grant
Why not just call it a '93, since it is a '93, and quit trying to make it sound like it's a newer car than it really is? In 2008, who gives a **** whether it's a '95 or a '93. It's still old.
My sister has the same "one-up" problem. She bought a 1999 Mercedes Benz several years ago, but told everyone it was a 2001. She now drives a 2005 Escalade but tells everyone it's a 2007.
Didn't I already cover that possibility?
How would you have them "swap VINs" with a 2002 FD when VINs are used in the United States only and don't exist for '96+ FDs?
Why not just buy a 2002 JDM FD and have it imported, inspected, and issued a new VIN? A '93 exiting the country isn't going to be issued a new VIN on re-entry, no matter what parts it has on it. It's still a '93 when it comes back as far as the DOL is concerned.
All R-models (R1, R2) came with black interiors.
I don't think that anyone understands that this data proves without question that any non-standard parts on the car were added after the original sale, and were not installed by Mazda.
My sister has the same "one-up" problem. She bought a 1999 Mercedes Benz several years ago, but told everyone it was a 2001. She now drives a 2005 Escalade but tells everyone it's a 2007.
Originally Posted by seanfd3s
Maybe they got it fixed without being reported?
Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
If you have the money:
(1) Buy a junker US FD
(2) Ship it to Japan for restoration
(3) Have it rebuilt to later specs or swap vins with a 2002 FD
(4) Ship back the 2002 to US, and entry will be a breeze due to having all the documents that it is a US car that was [shipped] to Japan for [restoration].
(1) Buy a junker US FD
(2) Ship it to Japan for restoration
(3) Have it rebuilt to later specs or swap vins with a 2002 FD
(4) Ship back the 2002 to US, and entry will be a breeze due to having all the documents that it is a US car that was [shipped] to Japan for [restoration].
Why not just buy a 2002 JDM FD and have it imported, inspected, and issued a new VIN? A '93 exiting the country isn't going to be issued a new VIN on re-entry, no matter what parts it has on it. It's still a '93 when it comes back as far as the DOL is concerned.
Originally Posted by Rotors R Cool
Wait, sorry to [butt] in here, but 93 r1's never came with all black interior? mines all black...
Originally Posted by Black93REW
Retail Date 10/03/1992
I think he was just stating that all R1 & R2 models had black interiors. Base models and touring models had other interior color options (Black, Tan, Red).
Did you even read your own post?
Now, can you understand why someone would A) confirm that all R-models (1993 R1, 1994-1995 R2) had black interiors to answer your question, and B) assume that you had a 1993 R1 based on the following sentence?
Wait, sorry to [butt] in here, but 93 r1's never came with all black interior? mines all black...
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the turbos were stamped with numbers, the early ones are n3a1, and then i think theres an n3a1 with a letter, like n3a1a or something. which is like 95ish, and theres a third, n3c1.
theres also 2 styles of actuator the "green" is dark, greenish cad plating. the pills are in the vacuum lines with these.
the later (97-98?) ones are a gold cad plate and have the pills in the actuator.
functionally the turbo's are all the same though until mazda introduced the n3g1 in late 98.
if we were dealing with a ferrari this info wouldnt be totally useless...
theres also 2 styles of actuator the "green" is dark, greenish cad plating. the pills are in the vacuum lines with these.
the later (97-98?) ones are a gold cad plate and have the pills in the actuator.
functionally the turbo's are all the same though until mazda introduced the n3g1 in late 98.
if we were dealing with a ferrari this info wouldnt be totally useless...






