so WTF, is my car a 1993 or a 1995?
04-20-08, 06:26 PM
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so WTF, is my car a 1993 or a 1995?
so here is my vin: JM1FD3315P0205537
this would tell you that this is a 1993, right? carfax says it was built over in japan in 1993 and then shipped here in 1995... ok? there are no prior accidents listed. my batmobile's engine was rebuilt by IRP and they told me i had a 1995. it has the 1995 ABS, 1995 subframe, 1995 interior, no EGR valve, all the vins everywhere matches up and everything else concurs which a 1995 would have. WTF?
this would tell you that this is a 1993, right? carfax says it was built over in japan in 1993 and then shipped here in 1995... ok? there are no prior accidents listed. my batmobile's engine was rebuilt by IRP and they told me i had a 1995. it has the 1995 ABS, 1995 subframe, 1995 interior, no EGR valve, all the vins everywhere matches up and everything else concurs which a 1995 would have. WTF?
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04-20-08, 09:26 PM
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There should be a sticker with the VIN and the manufacturing date under the driver's side door latch. Mine says 5/92 but it's considered to be a 1993 model year and my vin number is about 300 more than yours is. What does the date on your sticker say?
04-21-08, 12:28 AM
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maybe the vehicle that you have.... was a rebuild vehicle? or... a stolen vehicle... ( let say.. original of the car is 1995.. but somebody changed the vin...so no one know, it was stolen vehicle )
04-21-08, 07:53 AM
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ok, it says my car was made 4/92 and every vin matches up. has the airbag, 95 interior, no egr on LIM, 95 subframe, 95 abs. what is striking is almost every bolt has the torque stripe on it.
my best thinking is that the frame was sitting around for 3 years and then they decided to rebuild it as a 1995?
my best thinking is that the frame was sitting around for 3 years and then they decided to rebuild it as a 1995?
04-21-08, 02:16 PM
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It's possible, and hopefully for you, that the car was just re-built again using a 1993 frame.
But I would also consider looking into the possibility that you bought a stolen car that has been Re-VIN'ed. Just because it says 93, doesn't mean it's legal.
I hope for you that this is not the case.
But I would also consider looking into the possibility that you bought a stolen car that has been Re-VIN'ed. Just because it says 93, doesn't mean it's legal.
I hope for you that this is not the case.
ok, it says my car was made 4/92 and every vin matches up. has the airbag, 95 interior, no egr on LIM, 95 subframe, 95 abs. what is striking is almost every bolt has the torque stripe on it.
my best thinking is that the frame was sitting around for 3 years and then they decided to rebuild it as a 1995?
my best thinking is that the frame was sitting around for 3 years and then they decided to rebuild it as a 1995?
04-21-08, 03:50 PM
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That's very interesting. If it was a stolen '93 that wouldn't explain the carfax report. Everything does suggest that it was built in '93 and then somehow was torn back down and rebuilt again at the factory. Maybe it was shipped to a dealer, damaged somehow while on the lot, and then returned to the factory for a rebuild without ever being registered. Although there is no shipping record back in '93 this may have simply been missed by CARFAX.
04-21-08, 07:17 PM
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so here is my vin: JM1FD3315P0205537
this would tell you that this is a 1993, right? carfax says it was built over in japan in 1993 and then shipped here in 1995... ok? there are no prior accidents listed. my batmobile's engine was rebuilt by IRP and they told me i had a 1995. it has the 1995 ABS, 1995 subframe, 1995 interior, no EGR valve, all the vins everywhere matches up and everything else concurs which a 1995 would have. WTF?
this would tell you that this is a 1993, right? carfax says it was built over in japan in 1993 and then shipped here in 1995... ok? there are no prior accidents listed. my batmobile's engine was rebuilt by IRP and they told me i had a 1995. it has the 1995 ABS, 1995 subframe, 1995 interior, no EGR valve, all the vins everywhere matches up and everything else concurs which a 1995 would have. WTF?
I checked your warranty history. You my friend have a 1993. Build date 4/26/92. The original retail date was 10/03/92 warranty expired 10/02/95.
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04-21-08, 07:34 PM
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Sounds like another case of wishful thinking, sort of like the girl with the CarDomain site showing her "modeling" with her... 1996 U.S. FD. 
I have a '95.
It was one of the last two FDs imported into the United States in early 1997, but it's still a '95.
It came with a '96 ABS unit, but it's still a '95.
It has '99 tail lights, but it's still a '95.
It has black carpet and R1 seats in it, but it's still a '95.
It has an '03 Cobra Mustang 8.8" differential under the back, but it's still a '95.
It has '02 Corvette Electron Blue Metallic paint on it, but it's still a '95.
The VIN has the final word.
BTW, there was no touring model in 1995.
http://www.ventasm.com/
I have a '95.
It was one of the last two FDs imported into the United States in early 1997, but it's still a '95.
It came with a '96 ABS unit, but it's still a '95.
It has '99 tail lights, but it's still a '95.
It has black carpet and R1 seats in it, but it's still a '95.
It has an '03 Cobra Mustang 8.8" differential under the back, but it's still a '95.
It has '02 Corvette Electron Blue Metallic paint on it, but it's still a '95.
The VIN has the final word.
BTW, there was no touring model in 1995.
http://www.ventasm.com/
04-21-08, 08:10 PM
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Rofl. i checked this thread at work, and didn't think about checking the vin history. Rofl. nice one 
Los
btw, mazda, even when they do buy backs, for damage, or lemons, don't rebuild and sell. i don't think any manufacturer is allowed and does. if they do a buy back, they will "sometimes" sell them internally if it's just i.e. hail damage, but lemons "sometiems" get fixed, and then sold internally, or to a dealer and sold as used.
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btw, mazda, even when they do buy backs, for damage, or lemons, don't rebuild and sell. i don't think any manufacturer is allowed and does. if they do a buy back, they will "sometimes" sell them internally if it's just i.e. hail damage, but lemons "sometiems" get fixed, and then sold internally, or to a dealer and sold as used.
04-21-08, 11:48 PM
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It sounds like a 95 with the vins and stickers of a 93. my guess is something mazda did.
I re-state: Check with Mazda.
or, check with previous owners if you are not the original owner.
Look up a history on the vin, if everything matches up then you have a factory anomoly... assuming that no other owner did anything to it...
the airbag is the weird part though.
I re-state: Check with Mazda.
or, check with previous owners if you are not the original owner.
Look up a history on the vin, if everything matches up then you have a factory anomoly... assuming that no other owner did anything to it...
the airbag is the weird part though.
04-22-08, 09:45 AM
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You would be surprised at the amount of "reputable" sellers that frankenstein these cars by welding in new front clips and changing out dashes
Its not like there is really that much money to be made buying and selling these. Just shows you have to be careful of what you are buying and from who you are buying these days.
Its not like there is really that much money to be made buying and selling these. Just shows you have to be careful of what you are buying and from who you are buying these days.
04-22-08, 10:05 AM
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You would be surprised at the amount of "reputable" sellers that frankenstein these cars by welding in new front clips and changing out dashes Its not like there is really that much money to be made buying and selling these. Just shows you have to be careful of what you are buying and from who you are buying these days.
Its not like there is really that much money to be made buying and selling these. Just shows you have to be careful of what you are buying and from who you are buying these days.and i also presume i have the first 1995 touring kinda thing going on...
04-22-08, 03:29 PM
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Pretty simple. Someone replaced a large number of parts for whatever reason.
The car has obviously seen a lot of use from the pictures I saw in the build-up thread, and it's possible that someone replaced interior pieces because they were damaged, or because they wanted to "update" the interior. A lot of people don't like the tan interior panels the '93s came with, and there's been no end of wrecked cars parted out over the years to provide black interior parts, including the dash.
A clean history on Carfax means nothing. If you don't report the accident, it doesn't show up on Carfax. The VIN is the giveaway. No one replaced the VIN stamped into the firewall, or the door jamb stickers which list the build date, especially not with those from an earlier year. I happen to know for a fact that the door jamb stickers are destroyed when removed.
BTW, did you happen to read this post?
The car has obviously seen a lot of use from the pictures I saw in the build-up thread, and it's possible that someone replaced interior pieces because they were damaged, or because they wanted to "update" the interior. A lot of people don't like the tan interior panels the '93s came with, and there's been no end of wrecked cars parted out over the years to provide black interior parts, including the dash.
A clean history on Carfax means nothing. If you don't report the accident, it doesn't show up on Carfax. The VIN is the giveaway. No one replaced the VIN stamped into the firewall, or the door jamb stickers which list the build date, especially not with those from an earlier year. I happen to know for a fact that the door jamb stickers are destroyed when removed.
BTW, did you happen to read this post?