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Old 07-01-06, 01:47 PM
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If Dave is doing 93, I will post '94.
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If Dave is doing 93, I will post '94.
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nice, i have an original '95 brochure as well.
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wheres the 95? thats the 1 i haven't seen
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Originally Posted by sevensix
wheres the 95? thats the 1 i haven't seen
i got it in my hands right now. it doesn't look that much different from the '94 one though.
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The 93 looks just like the 94, except all the numbers say '93'.

And the cover is just a silvery background rather than a pic.

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F Cops

I F'in hate cops, they got nothin better to do then to write people like us dumb F'in tickets. I get pulled over constantly for no front liscence plate and loud exhaust. I think everyone should carry guns with them and every time they get pulled over for someting as pointless as "smoked tail lights" they should shoot the F'in cops right in the face! Sooner or later the cops are going to stop pullin us over people for stupid reasons!!!!!!!!!
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Calm down Ice Cube.
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Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL
I have the 93 and 94 brochures if the OP needs them. I could 'scan' and post the photos if you like; let me know.
i thought they would be scanned

but the photos help, i've been looking all over for a booklet
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It happens. Stupid cops.
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
The 93 looks just like the 94, except all the numbers say '93'.

And the cover is just a silvery background rather than a pic.

Dave
But the '93 has that beautiful 'playboy' centerfold in it.
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Originally Posted by SINxSELEKTAH
i thought they would be scanned

but the photos help, i've been looking all over for a booklet
Sorry, my camera makes better tiffs than the scanner does, but the scanner does give you 'flat' pictures. If you really need quality, I can do them again under glass and email them.
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Originally Posted by DCrosby
FDnewbie, That must be because Traffic court is not a trial by jury. Since I just had to do my jury service, and the judge ended up rambling about Burden of Proof, and the fact that an officer has no "Edge" on testimony just because he's an officer.

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Yep, that's right. The screwy part is, in VA, DUIs and Reckless driving (anything 20+ over the limit, anything 80+ mph, or anything that the Officer deems "reckless" in his subjective opinion) is a CRIMINAL offense (a Class I Misdemeanor to be exact), and thus carries a hefty fine, license suspension, and jailtime. Yet, it's STILL tried in Traffic court, w/o a jury. Needless to say, the vast majority of the ppl are found guilty...

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Calm down Ice Cube.
That's a good one hehe
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What vehicle code violation was this listed as? I want to look it up.
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Originally Posted by FDeez
What vehicle code violation was this listed as? I want to look it up.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=24600-24616

cvc 24600(e) Taillamps shall be red in color and shall be plainly visible
from all distances within 500 feet to the rear except that taillamps
on vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be plainly
visible from all distances within 1,000 feet to the rear.

*scratches head*
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Entertainment Value………PRICELESS.

Not sure why the car brings out the worst in the "boys" but it seems to. I got a reckless drive ticket in a parking lot. The cop had heard someone spinning their tires and gave me a ticket. It had to me I had the "hot car". Odd part was my youngest son was in the car and told the cop that it was someone else. Did no good. I got the “street racer” so it had to be me!!

It was fortunate that the car left tire marks in the parking lot. Took some pictures of the skinny tires and showed that my 245/45 16’s could not have left such a small mark. Now if you think showing the evidence to the lower courts does any good read on.

I went to “kangaroo court” got a GUILTY…. as the cop… could not have been “wrong”. That was fun. Told the Judge that I was appealing the ruling. Did the appeal thing twice. Got to a real court of law. Told the State that I wanted a trail by jury. Now boys, that cost the state real money. It is about 15,000 or so to seat a jury, get the DA in and the Cop there and the “professional tire guy” and such. Got the court date (that took 18 months) and the trail lasted 5 minutes.

DA makes his little speech about street racing and the safety issue facing the community and how all you guys out there are mother killers and father killers and 7-11 robbers,,,it was wonderful. He stated that they had pictures of the tire marks and that this irresponsible father was out street racing in a parking lot, endangering people, wildlife of all kinds, other people and that I was a public nuisance and a terrible father figure.

I only had a few pictures as evidence. One of my tires. One of the marks. One of the marks left by my tires. Rulers were in all of them. Lawyer entered them.

Did not even take the stand.

The Judge looked at my pictures asked the DA for his pictures of the “Crime sceine” all 27… 8 by 10 photographs with rulers and tire marks and such.

Judge called the “home team up front” and asked a few questions?

How in the heck could my tires make such skinny marks????

Tire guy said no, not possible. Cop said no...too. Now he did not want to say no but the tire expert had already said not possible.

What was I out for all this? I had to front the court costs and the fines and a Lawyer’s time until I got the “NOT GUILTY” about 1100 or so bucks. I got all my money back except for the lawyer cost 200.00. Needed to have someone enter the evidence in a court of law.

Entertainment Value………PRICELESS. The Jury, Ahhh the Jury. Someday will go into the impact it made on those common citizens.

May I suggest a similar path. You need just one witness. A Mazda dealer. He will testify on the smoked lens as OEM.

Some days it is really good to be old, know the system, have the money and have the time to go fishing once in awhile.
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Doc, I loved the story The only danger is, if you don't have such a rock-solid case like yours, and you ask for a jury, YOU'RE paying the bill for the jury...

Oh and btw, I noticed the same...the lower courts can be very biased and unjust. Every time I've appealed a case to the Circuit Court, I've won.

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Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL
If Dave is doing 93, I will post '94.
Well I gave it an honest effort - there wasn't enough light for the camera, and the scanner is a little too small and much too slow.

I got the brochure off eBay for under $20.

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Originally Posted by Doc-1
Not sure why the car brings out the worst in the "boys" but it seems to. I got a reckless drive ticket in a parking lot. The cop had heard someone spinning their tires and gave me a ticket. It had to me I had the "hot car". Odd part was my youngest son was in the car and told the cop that it was someone else. Did no good. I got the “street racer” so it had to be me!!

It was fortunate that the car left tire marks in the parking lot. Took some pictures of the skinny tires and showed that my 245/45 16’s could not have left such a small mark. Now if you think showing the evidence to the lower courts does any good read on.

I went to “kangaroo court” got a GUILTY…. as the cop… could not have been “wrong”. That was fun. Told the Judge that I was appealing the ruling. Did the appeal thing twice. Got to a real court of law. Told the State that I wanted a trail by jury. Now boys, that cost the state real money. It is about 15,000 or so to seat a jury, get the DA in and the Cop there and the “professional tire guy” and such. Got the court date (that took 18 months) and the trail lasted 5 minutes.

DA makes his little speech about street racing and the safety issue facing the community and how all you guys out there are mother killers and father killers and 7-11 robbers,,,it was wonderful. He stated that they had pictures of the tire marks and that this irresponsible father was out street racing in a parking lot, endangering people, wildlife of all kinds, other people and that I was a public nuisance and a terrible father figure.

I only had a few pictures as evidence. One of my tires. One of the marks. One of the marks left by my tires. Rulers were in all of them. Lawyer entered them.

Did not even take the stand.

The Judge looked at my pictures asked the DA for his pictures of the “Crime sceine” all 27… 8 by 10 photographs with rulers and tire marks and such.

Judge called the “home team up front” and asked a few questions?

How in the heck could my tires make such skinny marks????

Tire guy said no, not possible. Cop said no...too. Now he did not want to say no but the tire expert had already said not possible.

What was I out for all this? I had to front the court costs and the fines and a Lawyer’s time until I got the “NOT GUILTY” about 1100 or so bucks. I got all my money back except for the lawyer cost 200.00. Needed to have someone enter the evidence in a court of law.

Entertainment Value………PRICELESS. The Jury, Ahhh the Jury. Someday will go into the impact it made on those common citizens.

May I suggest a similar path. You need just one witness. A Mazda dealer. He will testify on the smoked lens as OEM.

Some days it is really good to be old, know the system, have the money and have the time to go fishing once in awhile.

No offense dude, but I'm call BS on your whole story. Mainly because you CANNOT get a jury trial for a traffic ticket.

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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
No offense dude, but I'm call BS on your whole story. Mainly because you CANNOT get a jury trial for a traffic ticket.
If you don't know, it's best to be quiet. You can ABSOLUTELY get a jury trial for a traffic ticket. Not at General District Court, but if you appeal it and go to Circuit Court, you can request a trial by jury. I know; I've been offered it MANY times, and had the charges assoc. w/ a jury trial explained in detail.

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The ignorance is strong in this thread. I love it.


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