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I helped a guy do it a month ago. He already had a PFC, and an IC. A-spec 3574- $950, HKS cast mani- $400 Tial wastegate and BOV- $550. KG parts secondary fuel rail, injector, lines, and Fuel pressure reg $600 (i think), V-band flange and clamps $100, fuel pump $200. We made our own exhaust and welded it up. Also fabbed an adapter for teh wastegate. Thats under $3000. Lets say it was $3000 for all the little extras you have to buy at the parts store. It can be done, but you have to be able to do things on your own.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Yeah, but your $7750 does not include things like fabbing up intercooler piping, miscellaneous items needed for install (like a $150 FPR for example). It also does not include tax or shipping on all of the above. Most importantly it includes no labor, so DIY.
You also left out a clutch to handle the power, and other incidentals. That $10k figure isn't so out of reach now, is it?
You also left out a clutch to handle the power, and other incidentals. That $10k figure isn't so out of reach now, is it?
*shakes fist* dammit rynberg!
of course clutch and labor whats FPR
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Originally Posted by montego
*shakes fist* dammit rynberg!
of course clutch and labor whats FPR
of course clutch and labor whats FPR
I would also add a lightweight flywheel to the equation.
I had so many little hidden costs when I went single, they all added up. (Many more, these are just the unmentioned so far)
Switching to evans, (100+)
New Coolant Filler Neck (45)
New Overflow Container (50)
BOV (150)/POV(100),
Pipe fabs, (40+),
HIgh Temp Couplers + radiator hoses (100+)
Constant torque clamps from mcmaster (75)
MBC (100+)
Oil Catch Can (100)
High Temp Protective Material (100+)
New custom exhaust gaskets for turbo/dp (100+)
Water Injection (400+)
And not to mention the countless trips to Ace Hardware for the little custom parts all the time... that always added up.
Take whatever value you think the turbo cost will cost you, and then factor in 15% hedge to cover the extras!
-R4tw
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[QUOTE=Rotary4tw]Fuel Pressure Regulator
I would also add a lightweight flywheel to the equation.
I had so many little hidden costs when I went single, they all added up. (Many more, these are just the unmentioned so far)
Switching to evans, (100+)
New Coolant Filler Neck (45)
New Overflow Container (50)
BOV (150)/POV(100),
Pipe fabs, (40+),
HIgh Temp Couplers + radiator hoses (100+)
Constant torque clamps from mcmaster (75)
MBC (100+)
Oil Catch Can (100)
High Temp Protective Material (100+)
New custom exhaust gaskets for turbo/dp (100+)
Water Injection (400+)
And not to mention the countless trips to Ace Hardware for the little custom parts all the time... that always added up.
Take whatever value you think the turbo cost will cost you, and then factor in 15% hedge to cover the extras! , And that is if when you get everything on, it fires up and runs great. When adding a bunch of parts, you never know where to start troubleshooting.
This thread never would have gotten so far if in the beginning he told us that he had an automatic
I would also add a lightweight flywheel to the equation.
I had so many little hidden costs when I went single, they all added up. (Many more, these are just the unmentioned so far)
Switching to evans, (100+)
New Coolant Filler Neck (45)
New Overflow Container (50)
BOV (150)/POV(100),
Pipe fabs, (40+),
HIgh Temp Couplers + radiator hoses (100+)
Constant torque clamps from mcmaster (75)
MBC (100+)
Oil Catch Can (100)
High Temp Protective Material (100+)
New custom exhaust gaskets for turbo/dp (100+)
Water Injection (400+)
And not to mention the countless trips to Ace Hardware for the little custom parts all the time... that always added up.
Take whatever value you think the turbo cost will cost you, and then factor in 15% hedge to cover the extras! , And that is if when you get everything on, it fires up and runs great. When adding a bunch of parts, you never know where to start troubleshooting.
This thread never would have gotten so far if in the beginning he told us that he had an automatic
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I'm in for about 10k on a single switch right now. All those little extras rack up quick. I'm sure I could have gone cheaper but would rather do it right the first time. (or at least as right as I'm capable of)
3k+ turbo kit
1k+ fuel system
1.2k+ microtech/ coils/ x4box
2.5k RE monster vmount
800+clutch/flywheel/counterweight
500 boostcontroller
299+ wideband a/f
214+ BOV
140 new plugs
109 non emissions pullies
~65 block off plates
~700+ various guages (egt, oil/water temp, control box, etc)
add couple hundred for shipping here and there
All this for just parts I'm sure more will be spent with odds and ends that come up (and the bribing I might have to do in the local forum for help when everything shows up)
Jonathan
3k+ turbo kit
1k+ fuel system
1.2k+ microtech/ coils/ x4box
2.5k RE monster vmount
800+clutch/flywheel/counterweight
500 boostcontroller
299+ wideband a/f
214+ BOV
140 new plugs
109 non emissions pullies
~65 block off plates
~700+ various guages (egt, oil/water temp, control box, etc)
add couple hundred for shipping here and there
All this for just parts I'm sure more will be spent with odds and ends that come up (and the bribing I might have to do in the local forum for help when everything shows up)
Jonathan
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Originally Posted by ihavetwins
going single turbo was the best decision i have ever made period.
I would have probably rather just bought a nice '04 Z06 for about the same amount of money I have into my car. Then when I go to resell the car I actually recoup some of the money I spent. Spending $15K in mods to this 7 is one of the worst financial decisions that it is possible to make (I am a financial manager so it is kind of embarrassing).
Heck I could have probably bought a brand new vette when I add up everything I have spent on the 7 in the last year...
Course...it wouldn't be a rotary, and there are countless other examples of the same car on the road, but you get my point.
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Originally Posted by cozmo kraemer
Wish I could say the same.
I would have probably rather just bought a nice '04 Z06 for about the same amount of money I have into my car. Then when I go to resell the car I actually recoup some of the money I spent. Spending $15K in mods to this 7 is one of the worst financial decisions that it is possible to make (I am a financial manager so it is kind of embarrassing).
Heck I could have probably bought a brand new vette when I add up everything I have spent on the 7 in the last year...
Course...it wouldn't be a rotary, and there are countless other examples of the same car on the road, but you get my point.
I would have probably rather just bought a nice '04 Z06 for about the same amount of money I have into my car. Then when I go to resell the car I actually recoup some of the money I spent. Spending $15K in mods to this 7 is one of the worst financial decisions that it is possible to make (I am a financial manager so it is kind of embarrassing).
Heck I could have probably bought a brand new vette when I add up everything I have spent on the 7 in the last year...
Course...it wouldn't be a rotary, and there are countless other examples of the same car on the road, but you get my point.
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This point has crossed my mind many times over the years and, at times, defying all logic. Spending money for mods and customization on any car, with very few exceptions, is one of the worst financial decisions that anyone can make. It is really an emotional decision for love of labor, as it is usually impossible to recover your sunk costs, let alone make a profit. Accordingly, one should never consider mods and customization as an investment, rather as entertainment. We do these things because we enjoy them.
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basically if you are going to stay automatic go bnr stage 3, other wise if you want to spend a lot of money and going to race your car a lot, be prepared to go single, and make sure that you spend a lot of time planning everything out before you start to put the single kit on.
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To say it was one of the worst financial decisions ever, is to completely miss the point. You didn't buy this thing as an investment. If you did, you are right. It was the worst financial decision you have ever made. But, chances are you bought this thing to enjoy it. How much did you pay for your home theatre system, or home audio? How much do you think you could sell it for today, or maybe ten years from now? You didn't buy it as an investment. You bought it to enhance the quality of your life. I don't know about you, but my RX's have greatly enhanced the quality of my life. Maybe that's not such a bad investment after all?
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