3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

single vs. twin

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-17-07, 06:43 PM
  #26  
Senior Member

iTrader: (3)
 
rotaryinspired's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I helped a guy do it a month ago. He already had a PFC, and an IC. A-spec 3574- $950, HKS cast mani- $400 Tial wastegate and BOV- $550. KG parts secondary fuel rail, injector, lines, and Fuel pressure reg $600 (i think), V-band flange and clamps $100, fuel pump $200. We made our own exhaust and welded it up. Also fabbed an adapter for teh wastegate. Thats under $3000. Lets say it was $3000 for all the little extras you have to buy at the parts store. It can be done, but you have to be able to do things on your own.
Old 01-17-07, 07:08 PM
  #27  
Don't worry be happy...

iTrader: (1)
 
Montego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 6,847
Received 787 Likes on 463 Posts
Originally Posted by rynberg
Yeah, but your $7750 does not include things like fabbing up intercooler piping, miscellaneous items needed for install (like a $150 FPR for example). It also does not include tax or shipping on all of the above. Most importantly it includes no labor, so DIY.

You also left out a clutch to handle the power, and other incidentals. That $10k figure isn't so out of reach now, is it?

*shakes fist* dammit rynberg!

of course clutch and labor whats FPR
Old 01-17-07, 07:30 PM
  #28  
For the win...

iTrader: (3)
 
Rotary4tw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
also

Originally Posted by montego
*shakes fist* dammit rynberg!

of course clutch and labor whats FPR
Fuel Pressure Regulator

I would also add a lightweight flywheel to the equation.

I had so many little hidden costs when I went single, they all added up. (Many more, these are just the unmentioned so far)
Switching to evans, (100+)
New Coolant Filler Neck (45)
New Overflow Container (50)
BOV (150)/POV(100),
Pipe fabs, (40+),
HIgh Temp Couplers + radiator hoses (100+)
Constant torque clamps from mcmaster (75)
MBC (100+)
Oil Catch Can (100)
High Temp Protective Material (100+)
New custom exhaust gaskets for turbo/dp (100+)
Water Injection (400+)

And not to mention the countless trips to Ace Hardware for the little custom parts all the time... that always added up.

Take whatever value you think the turbo cost will cost you, and then factor in 15% hedge to cover the extras!

-R4tw
Old 01-17-07, 08:01 PM
  #29  
Supra Smasher

 
pwwatkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: indiana
Posts: 777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=Rotary4tw]Fuel Pressure Regulator

I would also add a lightweight flywheel to the equation.

I had so many little hidden costs when I went single, they all added up. (Many more, these are just the unmentioned so far)
Switching to evans, (100+)
New Coolant Filler Neck (45)
New Overflow Container (50)
BOV (150)/POV(100),
Pipe fabs, (40+),
HIgh Temp Couplers + radiator hoses (100+)
Constant torque clamps from mcmaster (75)
MBC (100+)
Oil Catch Can (100)
High Temp Protective Material (100+)
New custom exhaust gaskets for turbo/dp (100+)
Water Injection (400+)

And not to mention the countless trips to Ace Hardware for the little custom parts all the time... that always added up.

Take whatever value you think the turbo cost will cost you, and then factor in 15% hedge to cover the extras! , And that is if when you get everything on, it fires up and runs great. When adding a bunch of parts, you never know where to start troubleshooting.

This thread never would have gotten so far if in the beginning he told us that he had an automatic
Old 01-17-07, 08:14 PM
  #30  
Registered Abuser

 
fikren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: tennessee, chattanooga
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm in for about 10k on a single switch right now. All those little extras rack up quick. I'm sure I could have gone cheaper but would rather do it right the first time. (or at least as right as I'm capable of)
3k+ turbo kit
1k+ fuel system
1.2k+ microtech/ coils/ x4box
2.5k RE monster vmount
800+clutch/flywheel/counterweight
500 boostcontroller
299+ wideband a/f
214+ BOV
140 new plugs
109 non emissions pullies
~65 block off plates
~700+ various guages (egt, oil/water temp, control box, etc)
add couple hundred for shipping here and there

All this for just parts I'm sure more will be spent with odds and ends that come up (and the bribing I might have to do in the local forum for help when everything shows up)

Jonathan
Old 01-17-07, 09:04 PM
  #31  
No it's not Turbo'd

 
DCrosby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Posts: 2,511
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
And People wonder, "How'd you spend 15+k for a single and a rebuild?"
Old 01-18-07, 01:31 AM
  #32  
Needs more seat time

iTrader: (5)
 
ihavetwins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,939
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
going single turbo was the best decision i have ever made period.
Old 01-18-07, 09:25 AM
  #33  
Darkside FD

 
cozmo kraemer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ihavetwins
going single turbo was the best decision i have ever made period.
Wish I could say the same.

I would have probably rather just bought a nice '04 Z06 for about the same amount of money I have into my car. Then when I go to resell the car I actually recoup some of the money I spent. Spending $15K in mods to this 7 is one of the worst financial decisions that it is possible to make (I am a financial manager so it is kind of embarrassing).

Heck I could have probably bought a brand new vette when I add up everything I have spent on the 7 in the last year...

Course...it wouldn't be a rotary, and there are countless other examples of the same car on the road, but you get my point.
Old 01-18-07, 05:40 PM
  #34  
FEED me

iTrader: (26)
 
TRISPEEDFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cozmo kraemer
Wish I could say the same.

I would have probably rather just bought a nice '04 Z06 for about the same amount of money I have into my car. Then when I go to resell the car I actually recoup some of the money I spent. Spending $15K in mods to this 7 is one of the worst financial decisions that it is possible to make (I am a financial manager so it is kind of embarrassing).

Heck I could have probably bought a brand new vette when I add up everything I have spent on the 7 in the last year...

Course...it wouldn't be a rotary, and there are countless other examples of the same car on the road, but you get my point.
That, and for someone like me where the 7 was and still is my dream car, the Corvette is not an option. We spend the money because we love the car. I feel like, it kind of grows with you. Not thrashing on your comment, just stating my views of our awesome 7 and why we spend so much. In example a single turbo upgrade. Call me crazy, but I'm saving for a TO4Z single upgrade with the HKS vmount to match (kind of undecided between hks or ks vmount). That alone without fuel upgrades is around $8,000. I got a BOV and FPR, so only thing would be fuel pump, secondaries, and a good tune.
Old 01-19-07, 03:32 AM
  #35  
Form follows function

iTrader: (8)
 
Speed of light's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Now in Arizona
Posts: 1,204
Received 34 Likes on 22 Posts
This point has crossed my mind many times over the years and, at times, defying all logic. Spending money for mods and customization on any car, with very few exceptions, is one of the worst financial decisions that anyone can make. It is really an emotional decision for love of labor, as it is usually impossible to recover your sunk costs, let alone make a profit. Accordingly, one should never consider mods and customization as an investment, rather as entertainment. We do these things because we enjoy them.
Old 01-19-07, 07:25 AM
  #36  
Senior Member

 
illusionzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: All Over NJ...
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
basically if you are going to stay automatic go bnr stage 3, other wise if you want to spend a lot of money and going to race your car a lot, be prepared to go single, and make sure that you spend a lot of time planning everything out before you start to put the single kit on.
Old 01-19-07, 10:11 AM
  #37  
Rotary Freak

 
hanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To say it was one of the worst financial decisions ever, is to completely miss the point. You didn't buy this thing as an investment. If you did, you are right. It was the worst financial decision you have ever made. But, chances are you bought this thing to enjoy it. How much did you pay for your home theatre system, or home audio? How much do you think you could sell it for today, or maybe ten years from now? You didn't buy it as an investment. You bought it to enhance the quality of your life. I don't know about you, but my RX's have greatly enhanced the quality of my life. Maybe that's not such a bad investment after all?
just my .02
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
HalifaxFD
Canadian Forum
126
05-09-16 07:06 PM
sinistersam
New Member RX-7 Technical
5
09-13-15 07:17 PM



Quick Reply: single vs. twin



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 PM.