shifting advide... BEGINNER
03-10-02, 01:16 AM
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shifting advide... BEGINNER
So I've never driven a stick shift before last christmas, and it was on a Jeep. Needless to say I wasn't the best at it. I'd really like to end up owning a FD R2 rx7, but how forgiving is the transmision ? Out of all the shifting I did, I only mis-shifted 1 time, and killed it 2 times. ( about 30 stops and go's) and when i mis-shifted, what I did was went from 2nd to 5th. How strong is a transmision on a rx7 for a beginner to learn on? or should I just get an auto ? I know there's already enough problem associated with an rx7, i'm just wondering if there's 1 more I should be worried about. Thanks.
03-10-02, 01:29 AM
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First of all, a beginner SHOULDN'T even be speed shifting. I don't see a problem in learning how to drive stick in an FD. It isn't the easiest of cars to learn in, but just granny shift it for a while. Once you know how to shift perfectly, then move on to the art of speed shifting.
03-10-02, 01:37 AM
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I wasn't even talking about speed shifting... I was talking about normal shifting/driving. what is granny shifting as this one guy mentioned...and what is double-cluctching ?
03-10-02, 01:48 AM
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Double clutching is really only necessary when downshifting more than one gear, say from 4th-2nd. The way it works is you shift (from 4th or whatever high gear you are in) into neutral, let out the clutch, rev the engine, then press in the clutch and shift. Its easier on the synchros because letting the clutch out while revving the engine "speeds up the tranny" so the gears will be moving at the same speed. If you just blip the throttle with the clutch in, that will match the engine speed but not the actual gears since the tranny isn't attached at the time. I wouldn't worry too much about it for now, just let off the clutch slowly when shifting, that made it easier for me when i first started.
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03-10-02, 01:57 AM
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You could learn on an FD, just be careful! Be SURE you know what you are doing before you try anything stupid. Enough of these cars are smashed up as it is. I'm not flaming your driving abilities when I say that, but definantly be careful, and look into a performance driving school. You can learn a lot.
03-10-02, 11:54 AM
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Yeah a $500 practice car isn't a bad idea... Granny shifting is just like Granny bowling, or Granny anything for that matter.. It basicly means "take it nice and easy" but about duble clutching... Tisk Tisk, looks like somebody's been watching to much Fast And Furious. (no flames intended) I found a page for you to read, it looks pretty useful to all of you who don't know anything about heel and toe or duble clutching. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...ols/Tip193.htm also read on how your tranny and sychros work... it'll make things more understandible for you.
Hope everything goes well for ya,
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Hope everything goes well for ya,
Nick
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heh.. I'll admit I've done my far share of watching fast and the furious... but i've actually only done it to drool over the 2 rx7's in the movie (that I've seen). My brother is the main racer in the family, and he mentioned to me one time double-clutching is useless. That's where my question arose. If I ever get a rx7, I am promising already to keep it clean and healthy...and not turn it into to rice-out car.
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ok... after reading that... what the hell does double-clutching have to do with a 1/4 mile race? I've never heard of anyone going into a lower gear when racing.
03-10-02, 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by doofy
ok... after reading that... what the hell does double-clutching have to do with a 1/4 mile race? I've never heard of anyone going into a lower gear when racing.
ok... after reading that... what the hell does double-clutching have to do with a 1/4 mile race? I've never heard of anyone going into a lower gear when racing.
03-10-02, 12:21 PM
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No offense but if you cant drive a manual then the chances of you putting the car in the ditch because of lack of experience is very high. If your a beginner you have no business in an FD.
03-10-02, 12:21 PM
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Did it say anything about 1/4 mile and double clutching? i didn't read it i just searched it real quick and put the link in their for ya. but double clutching has nothing to do with 1/4 mile racing... or even the race they had in the fast and the furious, that's why everybody laughs when he says that. picture your tranny being three gears... one is the engine and two is the middle gear and three is the drive shaft (so to say) well when to go you shift gear no 1, 2 and 3 are all spinning at the same speed (let's say 5000rpms) well when you let in the clutch no 2 and 3 will stay at the same speed until you take it out of gear then no 2 will drop it's speed to nothing even when the car is rolling... then what your sychro does is bring it to the same speed as gear no 3 and then you let in the clutch and that hooks gear no 1 to gear no 2 but if you don't speed up the engine to match the rev's of gear no 2 and 3 you'll bog. what double clutching is when gear no 2 is spinning freely you hook it back up to gear no 1 (via clutch) and apply gas to get gear no 1 and 2 up to speed of gear no 3 and then you depress the clutch again and put it in gear or take gear no 2 from being in lock with no 1 to freely spinning again (but spinning faster) and that way no 2 will line up with no 3 and then you give it gas and let no 1 join the party. i hope this made some sense...cause god damn my fingers hirt from all this typing.
Nick
(ps all double clutching is good for is less wear on your sychros)
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(ps all double clutching is good for is less wear on your sychros)
03-10-02, 12:33 PM
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Practice practice practice, but not on an FD. Since you're new to the sportscar scene, and definitely new to the world of FD's, your best bet is to get a car with a manual tranny and practice your *** off. The FD isn't to be trifled with, and you will certainly put it into a pole/ditch/curb/pedestrian if you are worrying about learning how to drive stick on it. The RWD and turbo combo on our cars have proven to be something that beginners simply cannot handle (well, even some experienced folk have bad luck now and then), so until you've got at least a solid 6 mos or so of driving a manual tranny, I'd HIGHLY recommend against an FD.
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Since we're on the subject of fast and the furious... what the hell is that hose that is hanging from the neon green eclipse. it look like a 1/2 inch s/s braided hose...I have no idea what it's for... a NOS hose would be Securely attached to something....
03-10-02, 12:34 PM
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O, and I found 2 people who will let me learn how to drive a stick.. One is a Dodge neon, and the other is a nissan 200 zx (something like that).... would these work?
03-10-02, 01:04 PM
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Yes, a dodge neon (or a 200sx?) would probably be a lot better to learn stick on.. i learned on a honda crx and that was already hard enough for me hehe.. the rx7 has a lot of power stock, so if you're planning to learn on it.. take it nice and easy.. 
03-10-02, 02:09 PM
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Yep, those two should be fine. I myself learned on a Prelude. After trying to learn on a fullsize fan from the '80's (RWD, huge meats on the back) the prelude was the simplist thing I had done in years. Just don't try learning on something with more power then you can handle.
03-10-02, 02:31 PM
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I first learned how 2 drive a stick on my moms Accord.. Not very hard to learn how 2 drive a stick it just takes A LOT of time to get it down where its natural.. I can drive stick now where i dont have to wry bout it stallin but i still have to think about which gear i need 2 be in when downshifting...And i still cant downshift right...OHH WELL.. thats what a learners is for..
03-10-02, 02:47 PM
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First of all, a beginner SHOULDN'T even be speed shifting. I don't see a problem in learning how to drive stick in an FD.
03-10-02, 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Donovan
Hi I've had a BMX for a year now and I want to race F1 next year with Ferrari.Can someone tell me how to drive at 200mph over the internet
good luck kid.
Hi I've had a BMX for a year now and I want to race F1 next year with Ferrari.Can someone tell me how to drive at 200mph over the internet
good luck kid.
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I learned to drive a stick on a Mercury Mystique and when I got my FD it was like learning all over again. It is a difficult car to drive IMO, maybe because I bought it with an ACT Clutch...give it a month and youll have the hang of it