Red Racer

Some jackass viciously keyed my 1 month old paint. Who ever it was the were real professionals because it's all the way into the metal and the got the carbon fiber hood. I have a 93 R1. I am looking for a good security system that has remote locks and remote start that will work with a manual transmission. Thanks for any help.

73828793

i believe the only brands that make dedicated remote start/alarm combos for manual cars is Prestige, Compustar and Excalibur can be programmed for manual trans... personally i would not put any of the above in my vehicle even though the Excalibur comes with a very good shock sensor in the box... for my FD i think i will go with a Viper 791XV 2 way pager remote start/alarm combo and order a microwave shock sensor which will make the alarm go off if someone is within a few feet of the car or tries to stick their hands inside the window etc.... installing remote starts on manual trans cars in which the owner likes to leave the trans in gear after shutdown is a no no and will result in serious property damage!!!

FDNewbie

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A car alarm is by far THE most pointless thing you can get these days. The ONLY reason I have an alarm is b/c I want keyless entry and remote window operation. That's it. It's NOT for security purposes, b/c NO one is deterred by sirens these days. Car alarms go off 24/7, and no one even looks twice. Besides, if I'm gonna steal your car, I'm not gonna waste time messing w/ your alarm...I'll just tow the car to my house in the middle of the night, and deal w/ it in the privacy of my garage/warehouse/abandoned whatever etc.

Lastly, an alarm will do NOTHING to stop ppl from keying your car. Keying your car happens so quickly, that they can keep walking by, and be gone 10 seconds after the alarm goes off (if it does), and the damage has been done.

The BEST security is be careful where and how you take and park your car, and keep it stored in a private garage.

~Ramy

73828793

I agree with alot of what you have stated... but a quality alarm will keep the amatuers honest... as for the keying i agree with being careful where you park, cause i always park where my car can be seen by me at all times!!! places like malls etc.... are trips taken with the girlfriends car LoL.... anyways a good alarm with a microwave type shock sensor will reduce chances of vandals causing damage since the alarm will go off before they come in any contact with the vehicle...

Mel

skribbez

IMO the best anti-thefts currently are passive ones. A well hidden/ well wired (wiring looks stock when done) starter kill can be extremely effective. In addition to that, a lo-jack or a Millenium plus MLU are great for finding stolen cars. The MLU will actually call your cell phone if your car moves from a perimeter that you setup.

If youre looking for something to prevent people from keying your car, you are wasting your time.

Red Racer

I always park where I feel that my car is going to be the safest. I am the guy who parks a country mile away from everyone and parks in the less crowded parking lot the is 3 resteraunts away from where I am going. This particular time I parked right beside my friends house and sleep on the couch 20 feet away. Ithought it would be safest there. I am just trying to find away to make my car the safest it can be without me standing over it with my 45. Most of all I really just want to key their face and the rest of their body with a brick, but I am not bitter. No luck on finding the bastard yet, still searching

JebenKurac

Apparently I had a battery cable come loose a few nights ago and when I went out tonight I found that the momentary loss of power had activated my viper alarm system and drained my battery. Needless to say, the previous owner wasted $500 on something im going to pull out this weekend

hus

See if you can transfer the power from a "shock" sensor to actually shock the hell out of someone if they touch your car. A mild shock for finger and hand prints and **** in you pants shock if metal touches the car, such as a key

20B3rdgen

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The "shock" senor detects impacts, NOT ELECTRICAL CURRENTS!

I have a Viper791VX in my car, but the Viper791VX, Python881XP and Hornet564T are all the same units made by DEI. They have different names and model#s so that diferrent vendors in the same area (Circiut City-Python, Best Buy-Viper) who do price matching if someone else is selling it for less AND the cheaper item has the same BRAND and MODEL # that they sell.

All of the Viper791VX, Python881XP and Hornet564Ts(all made by DEI) are very good units and have 2 way paging, if you are too far away (couple hundred feet), remote start and alarm. You can also add DEI's GPS module to the alarm that will call your phone if your car moves and it can give you the exact location of you car at any time, so if someone does just tow it away to strip it in the privacy of their back yard or garage the police can go strait to there location and start busting some heads. The Lo-Jack and other units like it have a transmitter on them and the police use a directional antenna to find which direction the car is in and then just start driving in the direction until they find it. The GPS unit in the DEI are the only ones that give you the exact location of your car and not a direction.

As far as the RX-7 is concerned you will need to add a actuator inside the drivers door since only the passenger door comes with a door lock motor in it. You can install any remote starter in the manual transmission RX-7 if you know what you are doing. I have remote start on mine and if the is not in neutral it NOT crank the starter over. I work as as an installer and so far the DEI units are in my opinion the best ones out there.

Mr. international

The alarms are only as good as the install. You can have a $1000 alarm system, and if the installer did a shitty job installing it, you might as well just left your doors open. I installed car audio/ security for five years, and have seen some installs done by some "big" retail stores, and ....well the install look like it had been done with a butter knife and duck tape! If you decide to get one, be sure the shopis reputable.ihve a autopage with the two way remote, perimiter sensonr, and window up, and it has worked just as good, if not better than the DEI models that I have installed.

But i'm with the guys when they say be careful where you park. Also if alot of people have issues with you, its kinda hard to keep your car from getting F*&%Ked up and vandalized.

hus

No duh Sherlock!...I was playing around being my old evil self....you know, shock the hell out of someone for touching your car would be a neat idea for an alarm....kinda like tying fishing line to the door **** of your front door and the other end of the line to the trigger of a shotgun as a home invasion alarm Of course, that's illegal to do in Alabama, but hey, DON'T BREAK INTO MY FREAKING HOUSE THEN!

FDNewbie

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...unless you're under a tree or in a building GPS reception is VERY spotty...you have to have unobstructed "view" of the satellite at all times. Trees, concrete buildings, underground, etc = ZERO reception w/ GPS. I know, my friend had like a $1500 Clifford alarm w/ the GPS, and it SUCKED.

~Ramy

TurboTagTeam

I can't see were you guys wouldn't find an alarm usefull. My car is parked right by my window to my bedroom every night. If someone messes with my car you can be sure I will hear the alarm and come running. That's what it's for. It's not gonna stop anyone from stealing it. But it will let me know when someone is touching it.

THe best protection IMHO is a well hidded kill switch.

FDNewbie

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I'm sure my friend w/ an Explorer, parked IN HIS DRIVEWAY, right next to his room would agree. He had a good bit of audio equipment in his car, a lot of it BOLTED down. Had a state-of-the-art alarm, remote pager, and a BACKUP battery as well. Alarm went off for less than 6 seconds. Thieves knew EXACTLY what they were doing, killed the power to the primary AND (hidden) secondary battery. They didn't steal his car...they stripped it down of all the nice parts, which means they were working on it for a WHILE. All while he slept.

I have another friend who had an alarm on his Jeep, also parked in his driveway. Woke up in the morning, and it was gone.

If you know how alarms work, you know how to diable them. Alarms are POINTLESS.

Wanna bet? Gimme your address, and I'll prove you wrong Don't get me wrong, I don't rob ppl, but I also have another friend who had his Supra TOWED out of his driveway at 3am. It's THAT simple. What's your kill switch gonna do for that?

Radio wave-based recovery system, or bust.

~Ramy

skribbez

I've talked to a lot of the cops here in orlando and they were telling me that the lo-jack trackers for the squad cars are expensive as hell so there aren't that many police cars equipped with them. A lot of the smaller PDs may only have one for the entire department, and the one that they have was given to them on a grant or else they wouldn't have one because they wouldnt be able to afford it.

It would be awesome if they could put them in all the cars, but the money just isn't there.

FDNewbie

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From Lojack's website:

LoJack has coverage areas in 22 states and the District of Columbia, representing about 2/3 of the U.S. population, and is continually adding more coverage areas.

Statewide coverage (over 80% of the population)

• Arizona
• California
• Connecticut
• District of Columbia
• Maryland
• Massachusetts
• Michigan
• New Jersey
• Rhode Island

Major Metropolitan areas, cities and high crime area coverage

• Colorado
• Northern Delaware
• Florida
• Georgia
• North Carolina
• Northeast Illinois
• Southeast Louisiana
• Washington
• Southern Nevada
• Southeast New Hampshire
• Southeast New York
• Southeast Pennsylvania
• Central Texas
• Virginia

GPS systems require line-of-sight access to the orbiting GPS satellite system in order to track a missing vehicle. GPS systems can't penetrate forest cover, parking garages, or other obstructions. By contrast, LoJack uses a special FCC-allocated radio frequency that can penetrate many obstructions. GPS systems also require an external antenna that can be seen and easily broken off by potential thieves.

olyrx7

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What can I do to protect my car? From what I have been reading seems like everything is useless. Some say alarms are pointless, other say kills switches are pointless, even two batteries don't work.


My main concern is to stop people from actually driving the car away or towing it. If someone keys the paint, or breaks a window or tries to steal a gauge well I can't do too much because it happens within seconds. My main concern is to prevent the actual car from being taken.

What can I do to prevent a professional thief from towing or driving my FD away, or is there no hope?

FDNewbie

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As someone mentioned above, alarms *may* serve as a deterrant to idiots. An Autolock on the clutch/brake pedal will frustrate most idiot crooks as well.

Kill switches/ignition switchies/fuel relays etc all work wonderfully also on idiot crooks. NOTHING will protect you from someone determined to steal your car. Or strip it while it's in place. There really is nothing that can be done of that, short of always keeping your vehicle in plain view, in a safe area, and always garaged. Make sure the garage doesn't have a door (ie regular door like a house door) or large windows, b/c those serve for excellent entry points. If you have a house alarm, make sure the garage is wired as well. Have a recovery system like LoJack that will tip you off once the vehicle's location changes, whether or not the car is being driven (ie it'll still go off if the car is towed away). And most importantly, have a damn good insurance policy w/ tons of documentation to protect yourself in the event that the unfortunate does happen.

In short, nothing's foolproof, and nothing will stop a determined thief. That's just the reality of it.

~Ramy

olyrx7

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Well maybe a 120lbs rottweiler would do the trick?


Ramy I pm'd you, earlier

FDNewbie

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Eh...I could take out a rottweiler w/ a gat no prob

Olyrx7, yea I know. I take my time w/ PMs in case you haven't noticed already hehe

~Ramy

Red Racer

The closest big city to me is Charlotte and that is not in the Lojack coverage area. I hvae already looked into it for my car and my bike. I don't have a garage, but I do have 110lbs lab that can lick intruders to death. He doesn't have a mean bones in his body. I have a little dog that is at most 10lbs that kicks his ***. The only security system I have is my H&K USP 45, but I have to be there for that.