oneflytrini

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which do you think would win from a roll.......
which would win from a stop............
which would win in the turns.......... (hopefully me )

im asking this because my friend just got his 96' 240sx and i always take him no matter what.............but now hes telling me he is gonna put in a SR20DETT motor and turocharge it...........which makes around 400hp.

all i have is a intake,dp,cb,mp,silicone hoses, and an apexi management system......i only use 10 lbs of boost but ill turn it up a notch or 2


please give me some reply's on who would win..........


i dont want to be embarrased.........so if i know he can take me......ill wait till i go single

WMP

You should handle him pretty easily. The SR20DET is an awesome motor with a good deal of power potential but the FD3S is simply a more powerful and better handling car. Depending on the year/configuration of the SR20DET (S13/S14/S15), he could have anywhere from 190-240hp I believe? 400hp is certainly possible, but like you said he's gonna need a bigger turbo, upgraded fuel, and some dyno time. Check out this link for helpful Nissan info:
www.freshalloy.com

neo_omega

SR20DET is already a Turbo engine.

Stock for stock, FD will win without a doubt.

Tuned car is another story. It depeneds on too many factor. Silvia are good handle car in general. The engine can withstand more stress than ours.

If both cars have the same HP, and both suspension are tuned well. Our FD can have better turn speed and handleing. But the Silvia may have better speed in straight.

RotaryKnight

Comming from someone who has both a FD and a S13 with a SR20DET.......the rx-7 will kick *** depending on the mods.

Remember on the stock SR T25 turbo no matter what else you do to the motor and i mean everything you can bolt on the best you can get is high 12's. 12.6-12.8 is pretty much maxed out.

On the stock twins the Rx-7 will have better responce than the SR also. There are not too many 240sx out there that are done up enough to beat FDs. I still have to time my S13.

Mods: HKS Type S FMIC, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Dragger, EVC IV (1 Bar), Pillow ball mounts, Springs, Koyo radiator, Sway bars and a whole bunch of crap.

I only expect to run low 13's if lucky on this beater.

RotaryKnight

Also a SR20DET doesn not make 400. Yes the stock motor can hold up to 400 rwhp with out touching the block but it takes a lot of work to get 400 rwhp.

S13 SR20DET the max HP he can get is aroun6 230-40 rwhp (stock T25)
S14 SR20DET the max HP he can get is around 250-60 rwhp (stock T28)

jabbadeznuts

um... there is no such thing as an SR20DETT. the SR20 series comes in the Silvias. Maby what your talkin about is the RB20DETT which comes in the Skylines. If it's an RB engine you had better watch out!

oneflytrini

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ye there is.........
the SR20DE (no turbo)
the SR20DET(turbo)

those are the only engines for the silvia's in japan........over here in the states we have something called the KAZ20 or some **** like that (i know it has a K and a Z lol)

RotaryKnight

You said SR20DETT in your original post not SR20DET what people are trying to correct is that there is no TT Twin Turbo version of the SR. This is the Rotary Forum most people here know what the T at the end of an engine code means.

Also you said your friend was going to turbocharge his SR20DETT which wouldn't make sence since the motor is already turbo. In the US we have the KA....it is the KA24DE or KA24D depending which year 240sx it is.

oneflytrini

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sorry

RotaryKnight

ahah it's cool just didn't want you gettin flustered wondering why people were jumpin on you....it was prob just a typo.

aw101584

Oh and its RB26DETT not RB20DETT at stated above. Those engines are in the skyline. I could be wrong about the RB20DETT if its in older model skylines.

~alan

Flybye

It's silly how everyone likes the SR20 over the KA24. If I were to ever drop in a motor in my car, I would for surely have it rebuilt, and if I was going to rebuild a motor, I might have well start out with the 2.4L engine that already has a larger displacement.

Truck motor, sure. Truck motor can be built up just like the SR20. Truck motor has allready more low end torque than the SR20.

I'll pick the larger displacement engine in this case since we are dealing with boingers. Oh damn, I don't have my S14 anymore

user 84205

If you can drive and he can drive just the same...

I dont car what you do to the Silvia as we call it, you will always beat him.

Silvia is just the greatest drift car...... RX7 is the best car all around....

jspecracer7

No such thing as an rb20dett...just rb26dett and rb20det.

Also, it is not only the SILVIA that has the sr20det, but the 180sx. American I tell you That's like saying, "The only car that displaces 1.3 liters is an FC".

The S13, S14, S15 ALL have versions of the SR20DET(the S13 also has the CA18DET but that's a later discussion).

400 hp on an SR20DET?...not without an aftermarket transmission...

I raced an S15 the other day on a roll...what a joke

RotaryKnight

You forgot that there is a RB25DET found in the Skyline GTS.

rpm_pwr

oh god don't drag the rb25det into it. Skyline GTS + >14psi boost = hey where did my compressor go.

I'm with jspecracer7. s14 and s15's are dead easy to beat, even when you're stock. From a roll I've killed s14's so bad passenger's dont even realise the s14 was trying.

Oh yeah and if we're being **** about the RB series turbo motors, then there's the long-lost RB30ET fitted to the Australian VL Commodore/Calais Turbo. Factory fitted with a Garrett T3 They've largely all been massacred becuase people want the bottom end for GT-R's.

-pete

rpm_pwr

S13,S14 Silvia's are just grocery getters here

-pete

jabbadeznuts

the RB20s came in the early GT-Rs

But you are correct in correcting me. They are RB26DETTs

Thanks

RotaryKnight

Like I said...owning both a FD and a S13 with SR (everything you can bolt on) there really isn't a comparison. The FD will dominate....

Though the S13 does make a fun beater car and great sleeper. Low 13's high 12's are not that uncommon on a SR with EVERY mod that is bolt on but that's still alot of money for most people.

Also figure that afer owning the S13 for 4 mo I am more than ready to sell it. It's still a kids car and after the FD the only logical step besides another FD would be a GTR (screw gettin a Supra).

Yea you can make 240sx quick with the stock motor and you can make them fast with a bigger turbo but the FD is still and always will be a better car.

user 84205

I have a T-51S in my Model A, want to race.. haha

neo_omega

you do know the US S13 engine != Japanese S13 engine. So it doesn't mean a thing you have them both here.

RotaryKnight

Neo kinda lost what point you're making..?. The US S13 engine is a KA24DE...

Kaffiend

Right, or the KA24E depending on the year. Japan had the SR20DET and older models had the CA18DET, correct?

Blackbeast

If you guys doesn't know by now from Rotary Knight's message, he's got the SR20DET motor transplanted into his 240SX. That's how he can break down the comparison between them two. The SR transplant is becoming more and more popular these days.

Timmy

jspecracer7

That is correct!