Looks like you already made your mind up then. Dump money into a hole and put your education on hold because of the "I want it right now" syndrome.

You seem more than mature enough to make this rational decision

Good luck to you

 

ohhh so true, everytime my wife ask's me why i have a car that "breaks down so much and is always giving me problems" i tell her the same reason that i married you!!!!

 

Alcohol = EtOH

LOL!!! Agree!

 

There are no national SCCA road racing classes in which to road race an FD. If that is your goal, start with something else so you'll know about that kind of car when you are ready to start racing.

Also, it really is hard to start with a powerful car that has high limits like the FD. I would be a much better driver if I started doing lapping days and AutoXing with a different car. Go hang out at an AutoX and look at SCCA results and see if anything with less power and fast times excites you.

It is a bit humorous that someone with the screen name "Alcoholic" is also claiming to be unusually responsible (teen-aged or not).

-Max

 

You don't have a high school degree or a GED, and you work in a warehouse "busting your ***". What do you make, like $10/hour max, if that? You dont wanna talk about your budget, but you wanna buy a car for 13k, and drop 15k into?

Say we forget that fact that you dont have a full liscence and this is your first car......

The real questions are how much money do you have saved already and how much extra money do you have a month to spend on a car and alteast maintain it? How much in cash would you have on reserve after the car is bought?

I highly doubt you'll even get an FD anytime soon. You can prove me wrong by posting pics someday.

 

You should just buy mine for $25000.
16000 original miles and all the Pettit Racing goodies allready in it.
Edit: Never mind: just realized this would be your first car.

 

I'm not putting anything on hold. The GED isn't **** to get and I'll get around to it when they aren't asking me to stay late every day and to come in on the weekends too.....

It may be a better idea to start off with a slower car as far as getting started in auto x, but I'm not in this **** to win competitions...I just want to have some fun. Most of the time I'll be driving on the street and not on an auto x track anyway.

rx7's have some *****. miata's and the like? absolutely no *****. no fun to drive. maybe if every single road around here was a windy mountain road......except for the fact that all of florida is flat and mostly boring. And it's really not out of the question to have another car, like a miata that I can drive if the seven starts having problems or is in the shop and that I could start auto-x'ing on as well.

My name really means anything? I mean seriously? I have drank a lot in the past.....but I've been drunk once in the last 6 months with a few beers and whatnot here and there.

My finances are none of this forum's business. I'm not gonna talk about it, because it's non of your damn business how I pay for ****. You guys keep prying into my personal life and I'm sick of it. None of your business, I'm not here to tell my life's story.

As far as you doubting I'll ever get one, I've changed my mind on what car I want so many god damn times it's rediculous. But trust me, if I want one, I'll get one.....and if I get one, I'll make sure to quote your post when I post pics.

 

I would be much more interested if it wasn't modded.........but I don't have $25k right now anyway.

It's not like I planned to buy a car with $10-$15k on hand to blow on modding...

 

EtOHic,
You're right, your personal finance isn't our issue.. But you did originally asked about our opinions about what your future fiancial decision about the car (specifically FD's).

I don't know how much you make, but this is exactly what veteran/older 7 owners hear all the time here on the forum..

Stop and evaluate yourself..
1. Do you have 10k right now?
2. Can you afford to pay for full insurance for this car?
3. Can you control yourself to not race every honda that pulls up next to you?
4. Can you afford the $200+ speeding tickets that you will get when you get pull over in Florida (I know since I used to live in St. Pete and my speeding ticket cost me over 400)?
5. Do you have the money for gas, tires, mods, etc for tracking your car?
6. Can you afford to buy a daily?
7. Do you have sugar mom or wealth parents whos going to pay for everything for you?

If your answer isn't yes to #7 or at least 4 out of 1-6, I say you should really think about if you could acturally get it and do what you really want to do.
When I was 17, I couldn't afford the insurance.. I had to share a car with my sister.
And it wasn't until I was in college when I was able to afford to buy a car.. Thank god for the swimming scholarship.

 

Especially when you don't have to be a one-car man - you have the daily driver always ready for when the FD is being crabby. If only women could be so uncomplicated.

That said, it's a shitty car for a beginner daily driver. Just call your insurance company for a quote in case you're not convinced - the insurance companies are quite 'practical' about it.

Dave

 

Boy you're young to be compensating for things already. Money can't buy studliness. (***** maybe, but then you pay double for the STDs )

We're not doubting that you can manage to make the purchase. I could go out and buy a new Porsche if I put enough of my life and credit on the line - that's not the point.

If you've been changing your mind about cars, then I expect that about 3 months after you've bought it and put a few cosmetic mods on, you'll get frustrated and sell it or swap engines when you get your first boost problem.

Dave

 

Parts of this thread show exactly what is wrong with the younger generation today.....impatient, greedy, and defensive.

 

Well it's true.....modding any car will give you a significant loss when you go to sell.

But the way you guys made the car out it sounded like I'd be lucky to not have to rebuild my motor 13 times in the first two years of ownership.


Yes, but I don't know if I'm allowed to be spending it...

Yes, and I only have to pick up a portion of the insurance.

not worth the gas

yes, but I'll be very careful of that because I'd be far, far more worried about insurance hikes.

yes.

For the time being it will be strictly auto x, from the looks of it, lapping days at like sebring for instance, would probably just be too costy to make it worthwhile.

If it came down to it, I'd find something with very cheap insurance, good gas efficiency and I'd buy it. So...yes...

The seven will do as a daily driver for a while...

I have money put away that my dad won't want me touching, but as long as I'm working and doing well in school (when i start in the fall), he doesn't have a problem helping me out with ****.

Did that about a month ago.



I'm don't want the car for anything to do with girls.

and IMO girlfriends > *****...though don't get me wrong, not turning down ***** here.

If I really wanted to put myself in debt like that, I could get something much more expensive then an FD. Heh, I'd buy an NSX just because they look better IMO.

Cosmetic mods? Last **** on my list...though a '99 conversion, headlight conversion, and some sides would be really nice. Body work just costs too much money to prioritize.

rims though...cant resist on that aspect.

Dude, I've been stuck on sevens for a long time...and whatever I were to buy, from 240, to rx7, to nsx (if I saved up for longer...), I'll be happy with it.

If I started getting boost problems that really pissed me off that badly, and didn't want to pay a shop to fix it, I'd prolly just ditch the sequential setup.


Impatient? maybe. but explain why I should wait when it's completely within my means? just because you couldn't have one when you were 17.....

greedy? how the ******* hell am i greedy?

and yeah, i have every reason to be defensive.

 

Maybe in all this research you do you should read up on this guys threads. He's about the same age also........

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/sell-part-keep-356882/

 

EtOHic,

I'll give you credit for being on this forum...

Most older guys here are sick of teens for few reasons..

1. they think these cars are like hondas and think they are cheap to maintain. NO! Expect the worst. new engine isn't cheap!! and you can't just bolt things on..
2. most teens don't know crap about these cars. So, go meet some 7 owners and see if they will teach you stuff in person.. Most 7 owners are very helpful
3. teens tend to have unrealistic goals.. do a search thru the forum, you'll see ton of threads like this and older/veteran 7 owners will say the same thing over and over and over... read it!
4. most teens think money grows on tree and they could buy whatever they need.. because they read it here that some guy made 500HP and they need it... or seen a video of a car and sounded cool! ie: HKS whatever turbo...
5. Most teens like to jump to the end.. In order to appreciate life, you need to take it in steps.. getting into one of the rarest fast car doesn't mean its good. take it in steps.. start off with some junker, learn to drive, and over time into faster car.. Jumping into one now means trouble.. Just think about it.. most teens have said the same thing as you've said and hence why your insurance is higher than mine.. its all in statistics..

So, don't get defensive.. just as you are learning about the FDs from other members on the forum.. Learn about the fact of life.. We are not telling you things because we haven't gone thru it.. We have and thats why we are telling you...

Whatever decision you make, hope its all for the best!

 

GOOD FIND!!!!

I think we need to have a sticky for all the teens interested in FDs.. I been on this forum for several years and I've seen so many post like this..

they need to think beyond just their desire to just own one..

 

God do I dread that ******* movie ever coming out.... you know F&F. I miss the old days were only a few select people actually knew the Rx-7.


Really? Please enlighten me on how some dude who does not even have a car can have a criteria of what an Rx-7 pre owner should be? ppfft if it wasn't for Fast and the Furious you would not even know about these cars...

On another note: don't buy the car. It is not for teenagers, as in you'll end up spending all your money on it and that is never fun nor worth it. Sit back go to school, you have all of your life to pay bills.

If you do buy it this is my prediction:
Parents make you sell it
or you actually step up and sell it (because of the hardship)
or you wreck it.

And make sure you think of me when it happens

 

It would have been pretty hard for me to have this car at 17...because it just came out and was about $40,000! Equivalent to about $50-55,000 today!!

 

Good point.. It wasn't even out when I was 17..

 

I will not be in the same boat he was in.


1. i'm not ******* stupid man, thinking that would just be plain stupidity.
2. i know enough to get me by...yeah no **** knowing people that are very knowledgeable would be a big help, but most of the/any major work is gonna get done probably by mazport, they're only a few miles from where am I am now...
3. I'm not concerned with what other teen's goals are or how much crap everyone on the forum gave them about it. i simply don't care, and there is no reason why I should.
4. i don't even give a **** about 500hp, period. lag sucks. dude, i'm not a fuckign stupid tool, I don't see a video or a car in a magazine and go "omg i need that". I look at my options for cars, and I think I like the seven option the best. I guess you can say I look at the cars I want in seperate tiers....tier one (top tier, duh) would include a supra, a seven, or an nsx. I'd take the NSeX over both, but that'd cost me minimum $25,000 up front plus probably insane insurance. insurance for the 7, full coverage, was $1300/6 months. not bad, i can live with that. the nsx...don't even know. I'd also be forced to buy a junker and drive that around while I saved up money. it's still an idea, but not likely a path I will follow.
k, so now the supra...$25,000 gets me a turbo supra with a shitload of miles that I would feel nowhere near comfortable modding without a rebuild. **** that.
k, so NA supra....well, $12,000 or $15,000 could get me one. it has shitty brakes compared to the turbo and the turbo also has better suspension. now titan motorsports (which you probably know of, very good/well known supra shop) will do the 2jzgte/getrag swap for $10,000 including parts and labor. insurance would not be too bad, because I'd be driving an "NA" supra, I'd have to dish out cash sooner to get some tt supra brakes, and to upgrade the suspension.....but that would give me a better car to learn on before it was turbo. but if I did that, I'm spending enough in the long run to buy an nsx, which I don't like because I'd rather have the nsx. so now I'm back to.......oh wait, the other top tier car on my list is the seven, i want it about as much as a supra, maybe slightly less......but it's a lot cheaper.

so umm, ok. I'm thinking seven right now. for the amount of money i could spend on another car, just to get it in STOCK form, i could have a very nice seven. i don't need an nsx right now.

got a little sidetracked there but maybe you see why I want a seven even though i'm still sure you don't think I should get one...

5. what makes you think I won't appreciate it? so having the money for one, but buying a shitty car, then buying a seven when i'm older will make me appreciate it more? why............?

I do. it's not like I'm going to bust my *** and spend every single penny i have to get an fd with 80k miles on it that's never been rebuild, only to have the motor blow and me be broke as ak joke.......................i understand the aspects of the situation and can make an informed decision on it. i'm not gonna get the car if i do, and be suprised if the worst happens. maybe i'll go "******* god damnit, blah blah blah" but it won't exactly be a suprise. ****.


rx7's are no ******* secret if you're into imports. i knew about them long before that ricetastic excuse for a movie and all the ******* it spawned.


Dude, what the motherfuck are you talking about?

YOU need to go back to middle school and aquire a little reading comprehension. damn.

and once again, stop being a ***** with your f&f comments.

a good majority of the general population of the united states, including old people, people who don't give a **** about cars, etc....look at a seven and go "is that a corvette?" but anybody who gives a flying **** about cars knows what an rx7 is. it's no ******* secret.


god it's great to know that this is the community i have to turn to if i get a seven.

 

If you can't handle this discussion, this car will be a nice dose of reality. But in the end, usually the only result is a destroyed RX-7.

Buy the Supra.

Dave

 

Relating a bunch of people on a forum giving me a hard time to a car is rediculous.

I haven't decided yet, but if I go the way of the supra, I'll be at least $25k into it when I have a stock supra TT motor with shitty suspension and brakes. :-\ dunno about that ****.

 

It might seem ridiculous if you don't have the responsibility or maturity to appreciate our concerns.

Dave

 

Very well put.

I would have been a little butthurt 4 years ago when I got my liscense and wanted a rotary powered sports car, but now that I look back, these are some great words of advice.

My good friend waited to buy his FC (I believe his nick on here is Blake_91), and He has always been a better driver than I.

I would not recommend any true sports car as your firstcar. Inclement weather adds a whole new degree of difficulty to hndling ang stability in regards to experience and judgement. RWD (especially high powered like an FD) is not the easiest thing to handle in any type of rain or (god forbid) snow.

I would recommend a front-wheel drive car to get experience under your belt. Learn to do maintenence yourself (i know it's been said, but it's really important imho)

Another thing is, for 10-13k you can get a much newer, more forgiving, easier to drive vehicle that wont get you in as much trouble near as quickly as a high performance vehicle.

I havent even bought an FD yet, but you can be sure, even with 4 years of driving, 2 years of autocrossing, a CDL, and a couple driving schools, I am still going to be insanely cautious behind the wheel of an FD. They are a true sports car (aside from the Bose system... )

Not trying to tell you DONT, but just saying that as a first vehicle, it may not be the best idea. Get a car you wont cry about if it gets a door ding at school, or if you curb a wheel, etc.. the lessons that you are going to learn the hard way.

In the end, do what you think you should do. After all, we are in America, and to do anything, all you need is money. It's just that skill, judgement, and discretion will determine HOW MUCH money you will need.

 

lol...They ALL say that


Unless you actually owned one before that stupid movie came out, then I guess we'll never know now will we? And yeah how old were you when the movie came out? 13? yeah I'm sure you knew what an FD was then... The fact is that the movie changed the dynamics of the import scene.

Did you not write this?


Really then what does the smiley face portray? I think it's you that requires a "brushing up" on reading comprehension skills.

For the future: As a rule a highschool drop out should not talk **** to a COLLEGE GRADUATE about "YOU need to go back to middle school and aquire a little reading comprehension. damn." lol




You came on here saying:

1)You are only 17
2) modding a car that you don't own
3) You don't even have a car yet
4) don't even have a license
5) Only want a car with ballz
6) Get defensive (argue your point) when people tell you not to get it
7) claim you are not like the rest of the teenagers we get here. Pretty much you sound like an average teenager to me. Especially by the screen name you chose.

And you want ******* help? YOU ARE THE REASON WHY I SHOULD SELL MY CAR! It was a sad day when the prices of these cars dropped so low that highschool kids started getting illusions of ownership. Sad day I tell you...

Just keep one thing in mind: Just because you can buy it does not mean you can afford to keep it.