Removed and Reinstalled UIM, now hard to start/idle.
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I had a somewhat similar issue the last time I removed the UIM. My idle was hunting all the way to about 3k rpms and would not hold steady. Adjusting the idle screw changed nothing. I had ended up changing the pre tension on the throttle cable when I removed it. So I ended up tweaking the tension on the throttle cable to get it almost perfect and using the idle screw to fine tune it.
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I had a somewhat similar issue the last time I removed
the UIM. My idle was hunting all the way to about 3k rpms and would not hold steady. Adjusting the idle screw changed nothing. I had ended up changing the pre tension on the throttle cable when I removed it. So I ended up tweaking the tension on the throttle cable to get it almost perfect and using the idle screw to fine tune it.
the UIM. My idle was hunting all the way to about 3k rpms and would not hold steady. Adjusting the idle screw changed nothing. I had ended up changing the pre tension on the throttle cable when I removed it. So I ended up tweaking the tension on the throttle cable to get it almost perfect and using the idle screw to fine tune it.
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I wish that was my problem but the slack in my throttle cable is spec'd to the FSM. From what I understand it shouldn't be pre-tensioned, but there should be 1 - 3mm of play in the cable. Also, my vacuum readings are seriously low so I'm thinking mine has to do with an actual vacuum leak.
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I had a similar problem just recently, where it had issues holding idle, backfiring and all that.
Problem was definitely caused by an intake leak, I had took a can of carbcleaner and sprayed everything I could from the tb elbow back. Turned out the gasket for the ISC valve was bad causing the intake leak. I doubt you are having the same exact leak, but from you statements previously posted, sounds like some kind of intake leak.
I had a similar problem just recently, where it had issues holding idle, backfiring and all that.
Problem was definitely caused by an intake leak, I had took a can of carbcleaner and sprayed everything I could from the tb elbow back. Turned out the gasket for the ISC valve was bad causing the intake leak. I doubt you are having the same exact leak, but from you statements previously posted, sounds like some kind of intake leak.
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I have but I couldn't get a definite result. I'm going to try again with starting fluid and also see if I can rig up a pressure test with a bigger pump/compressor.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. My ISC and AWS gaskets looked pretty solid so I don't think those are the culprit, but its good to know you had similar symptoms.
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After running a starter fluid and pressure test, if I can't get any solid results, I'm going to start taking the ACV off and looking under there for vacuum leaks, since the main rats nest seems to be solid.
championadrien
I had a similar problem just recently, where it had issues holding idle, backfiring and all that.
Problem was definitely caused by an intake leak, I had took a can of carbcleaner and sprayed everything I could from the tb elbow back. Turned out the gasket for the ISC valve was bad causing the intake leak. I doubt you are having the same exact leak, but from you statements previously posted, sounds like some kind of intake leak.
I had a similar problem just recently, where it had issues holding idle, backfiring and all that.
Problem was definitely caused by an intake leak, I had took a can of carbcleaner and sprayed everything I could from the tb elbow back. Turned out the gasket for the ISC valve was bad causing the intake leak. I doubt you are having the same exact leak, but from you statements previously posted, sounds like some kind of intake leak.
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After running a starter fluid and pressure test, if I can't get any solid results, I'm going to start taking the ACV off and looking under there for vacuum leaks, since the main rats nest seems to be solid.
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I had a somewhat similar issue the last time I removed the UIM. My idle was hunting all the way to about 3k rpms and would not hold steady. Adjusting the idle screw changed nothing. I had ended up changing the pre tension on the throttle cable when I removed it. So I ended up tweaking the tension on the throttle cable to get it almost perfect and using the idle screw to fine tune it.
#32
So...
Today I took off the ACV, replaced two hoses that looked iffy (but they had no cracks or anything) and started reinstalling everything.
After I got the manifold on I started the car and no surprise, it still runs like buttocks. So I mess with the idle air screw and still nothing happens. After letting it run like crap for about 2 minutes I turn the car off and go look up some TPS related threads. I see that even though the TPS is within spec for the PFC, it wasn't TOTALLY within spec with this thread http://www.fd3s.net/tps_adjustment.html It was something like .12 off for the narrow range fully closed (1.37V).
So I adjust it so that it is more within spec, however my TPS is probably not in tip top shape because once I get the fully closed within spec, the wideband Fully Open would be .09 under spec (4.11V). I guessed ah what the hell, I don't care about the fully opened throttle position, I just want it to idle, so I start the car again.
No surprise, it runs like crap yet again. As I was about to give up, I decided to record a video so that I could post it on here and get more feedback, but while recording the video/blipping the throttle, I noticed my vacuum started to rise until it finally got to about 407 mmHg, or 13 inHg.
After that I ended the video, and messed with the idle air screw and I was able to get it to idle perfectly at 720 rpm with 440 mmHg/16inHg of vacuum.
So I have no idea what it was, but appearantly it was fixed, and it just needed a little bit of throttle action to bring up the idle/compression.
After a short test drive, I noticed my car was pouring out blueish smoke, so I shut it off, and check some threads on oil smoke. Find that the PCV Valve can cause smoke and isn't necessary, so I go back to the car, eliminate it, and drive the car around and lo and behold, perfect idle with no smoke.
So alas, the car is fixed. I have no clue what the problem was, but it was magically solved. Thanks everyone for your suggestions and hopefully this thread helps people with their vacuum leaks.
Here's the said video of the magical recover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afeQx8jrZhg
Today I took off the ACV, replaced two hoses that looked iffy (but they had no cracks or anything) and started reinstalling everything.
After I got the manifold on I started the car and no surprise, it still runs like buttocks. So I mess with the idle air screw and still nothing happens. After letting it run like crap for about 2 minutes I turn the car off and go look up some TPS related threads. I see that even though the TPS is within spec for the PFC, it wasn't TOTALLY within spec with this thread http://www.fd3s.net/tps_adjustment.html It was something like .12 off for the narrow range fully closed (1.37V).
So I adjust it so that it is more within spec, however my TPS is probably not in tip top shape because once I get the fully closed within spec, the wideband Fully Open would be .09 under spec (4.11V). I guessed ah what the hell, I don't care about the fully opened throttle position, I just want it to idle, so I start the car again.
No surprise, it runs like crap yet again. As I was about to give up, I decided to record a video so that I could post it on here and get more feedback, but while recording the video/blipping the throttle, I noticed my vacuum started to rise until it finally got to about 407 mmHg, or 13 inHg.
After that I ended the video, and messed with the idle air screw and I was able to get it to idle perfectly at 720 rpm with 440 mmHg/16inHg of vacuum.
So I have no idea what it was, but appearantly it was fixed, and it just needed a little bit of throttle action to bring up the idle/compression.
After a short test drive, I noticed my car was pouring out blueish smoke, so I shut it off, and check some threads on oil smoke. Find that the PCV Valve can cause smoke and isn't necessary, so I go back to the car, eliminate it, and drive the car around and lo and behold, perfect idle with no smoke.
So alas, the car is fixed. I have no clue what the problem was, but it was magically solved. Thanks everyone for your suggestions and hopefully this thread helps people with their vacuum leaks.
Here's the said video of the magical recover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afeQx8jrZhg
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but at least its finally working. =D
#35
sounds lika Jet
Idle speed control valve needs to get cleaned or you need to buy a new one. i had this problem before and that was it. also check your VTA1 and VTA2 readings on your power fc, it might be out of adjustment. if the idle is jumping around and it stalls or dies, its the ISCV and these suckers cost a lot of mone. As long as you dont have a vacuum leak this is one of the biggest and overlooked causes of bad starts, idles, and stalls...
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