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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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RC Engineering injector o-rings...good or bad?

Has anyone used the green o-rings that RC Engineering sends cleaned and rebuilt injectors back with? I'm reading mixed opinions in my searches. I just got my primary injectors cleaned and my secondary injectors bored out to 1300cc.

So, my questions:

Has anyone used the green o-rings with *no* problems? How many miles/how long?

Has anyone used the green o-rings and *had* problems that could be traceable to the o-rings? Again, how many miles/how long?

If replacements are needed, are the RP/RX7.com ones sufficient? Or OEM FTW?


I don't want to mess around in the fuel systems with something that may fail on me.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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My story:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=255
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Dengit.

OEM set of O-rings, eh? If that's the only set that works, I suppose I need to bite the bullet and buy them expensive ones.

Unless someone else can chime in to the effectiveness of RP/RX7.com's $16 set.

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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I also had a horrible experiance with RC's injector o-rings. They left a huge fuel leak and flooded the hell out of my engine. I will never use there orings ever again.

Buy the oem orings and you will be happy when you try to start your engine. They are worth the extra money.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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What about Witchhunter? Don't they use Viton o-rings (and are cheaper than RC to boot)?
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Not alot of miles on mine yet, around 1200. No fuel leaks thus far. I find it hard to believe that a company such as RC would risk a good rep on cheap orings. I'm no expert, but there are alot of old garage tricks that people seem to forget over the years. Everything needs to be properly installed. I always go the extra mile when working on my cars. I lubed my injector orings before install. Everything was new including fuel atomizers and new rubber rings where the manifolds go in.

How can a stock injector install flood an engine anyways? Do you mean it flooded all over the engine?

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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FDeez
Dengit.

OEM set of O-rings, eh? If that's the only set that works, I suppose I need to bite the bullet and buy them expensive ones.

Unless someone else can chime in to the effectiveness of RP/RX7.com's $16 set.
Now, I only had an issue with one injector. I didn't replace all the o-rings from the other ones (although I should have while I was there).
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Well, I just called Ray to order the o-rings. Not too bad...$60-something. I was expecting $120-something as described at RP.

Cheap insurance. I'm game with that.

When I get the OE ones in, I'll take photos to compare.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Ok...I took some photos. Pardon the noisy profile photo. I didn't feel like re-taking it.

RC Engineering on the left, Mazda on the right.




RC Engineering on the bottom, Mazda on top.

So, it appears that the larger, upper o-ring is the same I.D. and O.D. But for the smaller, lower one, it seems like the RC Engineering one has a slightly larger O.D. Perhaps this causes issues by stretching and warping ever so slightly in the fuel rail?
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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The RX7.com set for $16 are exact Viton replacements. I've been successful with them for over 2 years.

I had my first set of injectors done by RC and I didn't like the O-rings supplied as well.

My second set of 850cc injectors from WitchHunter had all of the correct O-rings.

+1 on properly lubing the O-rings during install.

I use Parker's O-Ring lube, and I believe Pettit uses the same during assembly.

:-) neil

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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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$60 for o-rings is a crime. Thbe reason many people have problems is because they don't lube up the injectors prior to installation and the o-rings can tear. I use a quick blast of wd40. Not a single problem in years.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
$60 for o-rings is a crime. Thbe reason many people have problems is because they don't lube up the injectors prior to installation and the o-rings can tear. I use a quick blast of wd40. Not a single problem in years.
I'd like to say that I always lube the rings and I have seen more than one set of them fail. Also, I've seen several different flavors/color of the RC Eng o-rings. It seems they just get a batch of whatever is available and use them.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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FWIW, be careful with WD-40 and other petroleum oils on rubber parts including o-rings and bushings, although VITON is petroleum oil tolerant.

Parkers O-Ring Lube is a barium soap so it won't deteriorate rubber.

My machinist likes to use the green Palmolive liquid dish soap as a rubber bushing lubricant as well.

:-) neil
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Old May 22, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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FSM says motor oil should be used.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkrx7
FSM says motor oil should be used.
Yep, because the factory/OE ones are VITON which are petroleum compatible.

:-) neil
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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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I've sent out tons of green seals and had no bad reports... Like stated before a big gun like RC wouldn't put their ***** on the line for cheaper seals. If they are good enough for them then they are good enough for me
I'm still debating what the best lube is for the o rings? I guess as long as its not pb blaster you're ok... HA!
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