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Old 06-29-02, 06:05 PM
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ran over a deer, what did I break?

Hey guys, I did the search and came up empty handed.
I ran over a deer(that the car in front of me nailed). The passanger side went over it front and rear, using up all available wheel travel and then some. Now my steering feels completely dead on center for a good 3 degrees each way, I get really bad shuddering over bumps, and it drifts a half lane at a time on rough corners. Dave (at KD) doesn't have time to look at it until sept.

Does anybody have any ideas of what the problem(s) could be? Could a mazda dealer diagnose it-seems like a general automotive problem, but I'm not sure they would know what a "normal" properly functioning FD feels like.......ok well nobody does, but at least one that doesn't have any steering problems.

Any ideas?

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-Chris C.
Old 06-29-02, 06:50 PM
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ok here's an easy one-the deer was definately damaged and will probably need to be replaced....
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I would think a mazda dealer, or any suspension repair place would be able to figure out the problem. Its a general car problem that a non RX7 shop *should* be able to handle. I mean, bent suspension components should be pretty obvious. It probably needs an alignment too.
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I smell salvage title on the deer
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dont go to the dealer........ cuz they will only replace anything that is not working properly with expensive stock parts........ you're better off bringin it to a performance shop..... not necessarily rotary related...... and upgrade, might be cheaper that way
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Well ... I'd say stick it in the garage and don't drive it until september when Dave can check it out. I wouldn't risk taking it to a mazda dealership. I would definitely check into other rx7 shops close to you ... PFS maybe?

Hope you have a beater car that you can drive in the mean time.

Good luck
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Man you broke the deer. Heard those go for a pretty penny underground.
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true........ sell it to the nearest chinese restaurant...... maybe you'll be able to cover the cost of the damages
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Prolly his legs at least
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holy ****...... maybe you can even make one of those displays where the deer's head is poppin out...... and hang it in your living room!!!!!!!!
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The bottom of the FD doesn't really have much hanging down.

As far as your funny steering that might be a bent tie rod. FD tie rods bend/break easily when they hit something. The vibration might be a bent wheel, I can't really imagine that a deer would bend a wheel though.

I'd also check the sway bar mount and radiator. Several under body covers could get broken or bent. First and foremost would be the one under the engine.

Otherwise there isn't really a lot to bend down there via impact with deer laying on pavement.

Just be glad it wasn't standing up!

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what kind of rx7 did you drive..... cuz i dont think i can run over a deer on my fd...... too low to the ground...... probably would get pushed to the side or soemtrhing..... and if it was standing up..... maybe i can go underneath it like fast and the furious .....hehe
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I'd strongly recommend you check the radiator and coolers in the front before you drive the car anymore. Fur is not adventagous to cooling. You don't want to overheat and make the situation worse.
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I drive a 94 touring, and the deer didn't exactly slide under the car. The car ahead of me took the kill and I hit the aftermath. I was going about 65 when I nailed it so everything happened prettty fast, but I do believe the passagner side was airborn for a split second. No body damage except a couple broken R1 spoiler mounting bolts.

A bunch of people have suggested tie rods. If that is the problem, will they be visibly damaged? If not how can I tell if they're ok.

Van, I'll pass on going to PFS, remember I was the one that did all the research for Gordon's case Needless to say I don't think I'm on Peter's christmas card list for that reason!

Thanks to everybody that replied, I'll post back after I get it on a lift.

-Chris C.
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I'm just shocked that the front of your bumper isn't bent or cracked. I mean... a deer isn't exactly a small animal like a cat or dog
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Originally posted by CCarlisi
I drive a 94 touring, and the deer didn't exactly slide under the car. The car ahead of me took the kill and I hit the aftermath. I was going about 65 when I nailed it so everything happened prettty fast, but I do believe the passagner side was airborn for a split second. No body damage except a couple broken R1 spoiler mounting bolts.

A bunch of people have suggested tie rods. If that is the problem, will they be visibly damaged? If not how can I tell if they're ok.

Van, I'll pass on going to PFS, remember I was the one that did all the research for Gordon's case Needless to say I don't think I'm on Peter's christmas card list for that reason!

Thanks to everybody that replied, I'll post back after I get it on a lift.

-Chris C.
The tie rod would be visibly bent, most likely right at the end where it meets the tie rod end (wheel side). They seem to always bend there from impact.

It should be easy to see any bending in the tie rod. If you look at it and it looks straight keep looking around.

The lower control arm is strong as hell, I can't imagine that was bent.

Jeff
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well I had one shop check it out and they couldn't find anything wrong with the tie rods. I am taking it to a mazda dealer in NJ this friday to have an alignment and visual inspection done. Hopefully something will turn up.
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Hopefully it isn't too bad. My daughter struck a dead deer in an Eclipse...Pushed left wheel back @ 3 " and caved in the oil pan. If you struck the head, it's like hitting a curb @ 60mph. Mazda control arm a lot stronger, however, I would take a good look at the wheel, especially if you're going to travel to NJ. The stock wheels had a problem with the outer part of the wheel detaching from the center spokes during racing. I still remember a picture in Autoweek of a 7 demolished when the stock wheel broke.
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Originally posted by CCarlisi
I drive a 94 touring, and the deer didn't exactly slide under the car. The car ahead of me took the kill and I hit the aftermath. I was going about 65 when I nailed it so everything happened prettty fast, but I do believe the passagner side was airborn for a split second. No body damage except a couple broken R1 spoiler mounting bolts.



Dang that's pretty amazing. I guess the deer was small...BY the way, did the whole deer nail you or just some of its body parts?
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not really sure but the truck that was responsible for the intial impact more or less transformed it into a 2D object
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bambi done got trucked up... sorry about your luck.

I was scared about hiting a rabbit or something thinking that would destroy my car as i watch it go back into the woods unscathed, but i guess my car is more durable than i thought.
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Originally posted by CCarlisi
not really sure but the truck that was responsible for the intial impact more or less transformed it into a 2D object
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The Stering rack may be loose - check the rack mounts for broken/loose bolts also you may have damaged the rack internally causing increased clearance between the rack itself and the steering pinion, that can/will cause a lot of free play in the steering and the WANDERING sensation you described
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Max:

When I jacked the car up there didn't seem to be any play, and when driving straight it doesn't wander, but the steering feels numb for the first couple of degrees-it responds, but in a caddy like fashion.

In high speed corners it goes wide and bumps seem to exacerbate this. But the most noticable difference is that the feedback through the wheel from bumps (going straight or cornering) is extremely rough-almost as if you're holding onto a solid metal pole that is banging against the pavement under the car.

I noticed something else unusual tonight. One of my front brakes squeaks when making sharp right hand turns. The pads are less than a year old and I can't get them to squeak under any other circumstances.....not sure if it's related to this but it seems kind of odd.


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