Race Track top speed
10-14-04, 10:44 AM
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Race Track top speed
Can people post up some info...
1) tracks you have been on (e.g. the Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio...)
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
I'll start...
1) Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio (hence my examples!)
2) beginner... only 4 track events...
3) HKS intake, HKS catback, downpipe, under drive pulley, M2 Stage 2 ECU, ground control coilovers, Hawk blues in front, all season tires (Pirelli p7000 supersports...245/45x16)
4) At each track, I've only hit about 130mph. Note: at the Glen, I only had the intake and catback. At VIR, I had already added the downpipe, ECU, Hawk blues (for track) and underdrive pulley... at Mid-ohio, I added the coilovers.
My car has dynoed at 275HP.
I'm just curious as to how fast these things can get, especially given a good driver... Ok, to be specific, I'm curious how fast MY car could get given where it is and given a good driver.
1) tracks you have been on (e.g. the Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio...)
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
I'll start...
1) Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio (hence my examples!)
2) beginner... only 4 track events...
3) HKS intake, HKS catback, downpipe, under drive pulley, M2 Stage 2 ECU, ground control coilovers, Hawk blues in front, all season tires (Pirelli p7000 supersports...245/45x16)
4) At each track, I've only hit about 130mph. Note: at the Glen, I only had the intake and catback. At VIR, I had already added the downpipe, ECU, Hawk blues (for track) and underdrive pulley... at Mid-ohio, I added the coilovers.
My car has dynoed at 275HP.
I'm just curious as to how fast these things can get, especially given a good driver... Ok, to be specific, I'm curious how fast MY car could get given where it is and given a good driver.
10-14-04, 10:53 AM
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1) Passenger in a WRX modded
2)Driver has had around 1 year of driving
3)WRX had full exhaust, boost controller.
4) The track was Sebring and the fastest we hit was 130
On a 2nd note, I rode in a Porsche 911 that did 145 to 155 and there was an RX-7 there but I never got to talk to the guy. Im not sure when Im due to go back.
2)Driver has had around 1 year of driving
3)WRX had full exhaust, boost controller.
4) The track was Sebring and the fastest we hit was 130
On a 2nd note, I rode in a Porsche 911 that did 145 to 155 and there was an RX-7 there but I never got to talk to the guy. Im not sure when Im due to go back.
10-14-04, 10:56 AM
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oh wow man... you are just getting started!!!!
top speed isn't the number you should go by... when you gain more experience, your average lap time will get MUCH better.
i would say the most important thing on the track (for a beginner) is having the right TIRES. Suspension would be a close 2nd.
top speed isn't the number you should go by... when you gain more experience, your average lap time will get MUCH better.
i would say the most important thing on the track (for a beginner) is having the right TIRES. Suspension would be a close 2nd.
10-14-04, 11:05 AM
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1) Mid Ohio and IRP
2) beginner
3) HKS intake, downpipe, HF cat, HKS exhaust, Hawk pads on slotted brembo rotors, stock boost level, Pirelli p8000 tires on stock rims.
4) 140 at IRP (before Tein coilovers) 145-147 after the coilovers (because i shot through the curve into the straight faster)
2) beginner
3) HKS intake, downpipe, HF cat, HKS exhaust, Hawk pads on slotted brembo rotors, stock boost level, Pirelli p8000 tires on stock rims.
4) 140 at IRP (before Tein coilovers) 145-147 after the coilovers (because i shot through the curve into the straight faster)
10-14-04, 11:07 AM
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At VIR, WGI, SP well driven FD's with anywhere from 350-450hp can hit 160+
On all the above tracks I max out at 145 which is gear limited in 4th. I still have the stupid tall 5th gear which is useless for track duty so end up holding it at redline in 4th at the end of the straights at these tracks, which sits me right at about 145 with the shift light screaming at me the whole time.
I will defer to the above comment though that it is not about top speed but about lap times.
120rwhp cars that top out at 120mph can run lap times lower than mine.
FWIW
Crispy
On all the above tracks I max out at 145 which is gear limited in 4th. I still have the stupid tall 5th gear which is useless for track duty so end up holding it at redline in 4th at the end of the straights at these tracks, which sits me right at about 145 with the shift light screaming at me the whole time.
I will defer to the above comment though that it is not about top speed but about lap times.
120rwhp cars that top out at 120mph can run lap times lower than mine.
FWIW
Crispy
10-14-04, 11:23 AM
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I don't disagree about the lap times -- I know I can get better at that! 
In fact, I had an instructor with a 3rd gen RX (approx the same as mine, but some extra suspension mods, and hoosiers) and was running about 15-20 seconds faster per lap than me. I don't know what his max speed was there, though...
My first event at the Glen, my instructor had an '87 ('86?) BMW 3 series (track only car... fairly gutted, slicks, roll cage, etc...) ... maxed out at about 110mph, but had WAY better lap times than me!
In fact, I had an instructor with a 3rd gen RX (approx the same as mine, but some extra suspension mods, and hoosiers) and was running about 15-20 seconds faster per lap than me. I don't know what his max speed was there, though...My first event at the Glen, my instructor had an '87 ('86?) BMW 3 series (track only car... fairly gutted, slicks, roll cage, etc...) ... maxed out at about 110mph, but had WAY better lap times than me!
10-14-04, 07:13 PM
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I don't pay much attention (if any at all) to the speedometer while tracking. Any attention to the dash is usually directed at the tachometer to see if I gained a few rpm off the corner from the last lap or to accomplish the next shift, with any residual attention directed at the other gauges to (hopefully) warn of impending problems.
It's fun and all to see how fast you're going once in a while, but if you spend too much time worrying about achieving that "top speed" at a track, you won't be ready for the corner that follows.
It's fun and all to see how fast you're going once in a while, but if you spend too much time worrying about achieving that "top speed" at a track, you won't be ready for the corner that follows.
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10-14-04, 07:37 PM
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1) tracks you have been on (e.g. the Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio...)
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1)Motorsport Ranch out in granbury TX, short 1.7 mile course
2)have roadraced about 10 times, still alot to learn
3)mods out the ***. BNR old 3s, everything in sig
4)around 112 or so at the end of the short straights and i want to say like 125ish at the end of the long straight. been awhile, unfortunately.
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1)Motorsport Ranch out in granbury TX, short 1.7 mile course
2)have roadraced about 10 times, still alot to learn
3)mods out the ***. BNR old 3s, everything in sig
4)around 112 or so at the end of the short straights and i want to say like 125ish at the end of the long straight. been awhile, unfortunately.
10-14-04, 07:40 PM
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Hmmm... I have only been to the west coast tracks. The fastest I saw was about 150mph on the banked oval at California Speedway. Plenty fast for my taste.
As Crispy said a big limiting factor is the overly tall stock 5th gear. I hit 140mph really fast and then... LUUUGGGGG...
As Crispy said a big limiting factor is the overly tall stock 5th gear. I hit 140mph really fast and then... LUUUGGGGG...
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1) tracks you have been on (e.g. the Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio...)
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1) Gandy Bridge, Tampa; Howard Frankland Bridge, Tampa; Courtney Campbell Causeway, Tampa;
2) i sHifT mAd kWik yO
3) H&Rs, Koni Yellows
4) 175 mph on a "long straight"
But really, I would love to go to Sebring or some kind of racetrack and drive my car as it were meant to be driven!
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1) Gandy Bridge, Tampa; Howard Frankland Bridge, Tampa; Courtney Campbell Causeway, Tampa;
2) i sHifT mAd kWik yO
3) H&Rs, Koni Yellows
4) 175 mph on a "long straight"
But really, I would love to go to Sebring or some kind of racetrack and drive my car as it were meant to be driven!
10-28-04, 02:14 AM
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1) tracks you have been on (e.g. the Glen, VIR, Mid-Ohio...)
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1) RoadAmerica, MidAmerica, Brainerd Internation Raceway, MN HwySafety Center, DCTC, Leguna Seca Raceway
http://www.roadamerica.com/
http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/
http://www.brainerdinternationalraceway.com/
http://www.mnsafetycenter.org/
http://www.laguna-seca.com/
2) Been running seriously for 2 full seasons, got in about 25+ events this season alone, I run in the advanced groups during track events. Some say im pretty experienced, I still think I'm a noobie :-)
3) basically every mod possible, my track car is fokos old FD:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=211166
4)160+ mph at BIR
part way through this movie clip you will see an overlayed speedo:
http://64.158.28.140/MPEG/TwinVision...s_with_dad.mpg
2) your level of driving experience
3) track mods on your 3rd gen
4) fastest speeds you've hit at any given track
1) RoadAmerica, MidAmerica, Brainerd Internation Raceway, MN HwySafety Center, DCTC, Leguna Seca Raceway
http://www.roadamerica.com/
http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/
http://www.brainerdinternationalraceway.com/
http://www.mnsafetycenter.org/
http://www.laguna-seca.com/
2) Been running seriously for 2 full seasons, got in about 25+ events this season alone, I run in the advanced groups during track events. Some say im pretty experienced, I still think I'm a noobie :-)
3) basically every mod possible, my track car is fokos old FD:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=211166
4)160+ mph at BIR
part way through this movie clip you will see an overlayed speedo:
http://64.158.28.140/MPEG/TwinVision...s_with_dad.mpg
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10-28-04, 02:29 PM
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damian that's crazy! the car seems to accelerate the same from 60 all the way to 160. I cant believe you held 140 going into that turn! It scares me just one tire in the grass is all it takes!! be careful
and pianoprodigy you have absolutely lost your mind going 175 on those roads. Imagine if a cop saw you doing that? you'de be a passenger the rest of your life when you got out of jail.
and pianoprodigy you have absolutely lost your mind going 175 on those roads. Imagine if a cop saw you doing that? you'de be a passenger the rest of your life when you got out of jail.
10-28-04, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SurgeMonster
and pianoprodigy you have absolutely lost your mind going 175 on those roads. Imagine if a cop saw you doing that? you'de be a passenger the rest of your life when you got out of jail.
10-28-04, 05:23 PM
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>>damian that's crazy! the car seems to accelerate the same from 60 all the way to 160. I cant believe you held 140 going into that turn! It scares me just one tire in the grass is all it takes!! be careful
yeah, turn 1 at BIR is banked so its ment for high speed...and i usually dont drop tires off, I drive pretty conservativly ;-)
yeah, turn 1 at BIR is banked so its ment for high speed...and i usually dont drop tires off, I drive pretty conservativly ;-)
10-28-04, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by damian
heheh, the car can do more,...but i like the car and myself to much to push it ;-)
Ill tell you one thing damian, one track ive raced on is the datyona track, and this was the oval and the road course version. I had a chance to use a old porsche turbo that was modified and the track is lllllooooonnng. Easily in the road course i got up to 109mph, but up on the oval easily 192mph. With your mods and the track you could hit the 200mph barrier with ease. thats a track to race on, and the One called road america is a huge track as well
datyona 3.8mile course including the road version
http://www.theracesite.com/results.cfm?fri=715
road america 4.3 mile
http://www.deepthrottle.com/ra_track.shtml
10-28-04, 08:43 PM
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>>With your mods and the track you could hit the 200mph barrier with ease.
on that oval part yeah, im sure my care would be silly.... but i might dookie my pants before ever gettign to the 200mph mark ;-)
>>and the One called road america is a huge track as well
it is a huge track, but the main straight you are going uphill, so the top speeds are actually lower than at BIR
on that oval part yeah, im sure my care would be silly.... but i might dookie my pants before ever gettign to the 200mph mark ;-)
>>and the One called road america is a huge track as well
it is a huge track, but the main straight you are going uphill, so the top speeds are actually lower than at BIR
10-28-04, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by damian
>>With your mods and the track you could hit the 200mph barrier with ease.
on that oval part yeah, im sure my care would be silly.... but i might dookie my pants before ever gettign to the 200mph mark ;-)
>>and the One called road america is a huge track as well
it is a huge track, but the main straight you are going uphill, so the top speeds are actually lower than at BIR
on that oval part yeah, im sure my care would be silly.... but i might dookie my pants before ever gettign to the 200mph mark ;-)
>>and the One called road america is a huge track as well
it is a huge track, but the main straight you are going uphill, so the top speeds are actually lower than at BIR
is your car single turbo if so what turbo are you using
10-28-04, 09:34 PM
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Somewhat off topic, but how does everyone get to race on these tracks? I've been wanting to take my 7 on mid-ohio but have no idea what you do. Do you have to take a racing school or what.
10-29-04, 08:52 AM
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^^^ Yes -- you can look at different schools to find out who are running where....
If you look at the link below, it is one resource that shows who's running at what venue.
http://vista.pca.org/jsr/jsrpca/dales.htm
You could probably also contact midohio (http://www.midohio.com) to see if they have any events scheduled, and then contact those people...
If you look at the link below, it is one resource that shows who's running at what venue.
http://vista.pca.org/jsr/jsrpca/dales.htm
You could probably also contact midohio (http://www.midohio.com) to see if they have any events scheduled, and then contact those people...
10-29-04, 10:13 AM
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is your car single turbo if so what turbo are you using
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=211166