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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Very sorry to see this Steve. You had a very nice car. Good luck fixing (or replacing) it.

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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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IMO the rear looks fine. it'll need panel replacement but it doesnt look tweaked, the front end however is a different story but it might just be the core support.

Glad to hear that you and your passenger are OK. i've been in worse lemme tell ya.


it looks fixable to me, although it will cost more than a rebuilt engine
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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so much history with its previous owner (the widow of the owner sold me the car for about 7000 less than her highest offer b/c she thought I was the right person to take care of it), so much blood and sweat over the 4 years i've owned it, so many hours of labor - i really hope she pulls through.

thanks for the support guys. I'm much more invested in this car than I thought i was.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Looks like that rear has some serious damage and the front looks like it definitlely has a bit of frame damage. Sorry for your car.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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revsteve, i couldnt help but notice the UMD plate frame. terps ftw. how did you like it? i just finished my first year.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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probably totalled, but you should be able to buy it back, and maybe get the frame straightened and (maybe) be good to go.
man, I was so close to crying looking at the pics, it looks just like mine, it kinda struck a nerve. you have my condolences.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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'Tis a sad day. . .good luck, and be strong!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Very sorry to see man. In honesty, the car is totalled. As much as i hate seeing FDs totalled, and people out of the driver seat. It was fixable in my head before i saw the strut brace, there is frame damage down there. Good luck on whatever path you take.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Fixable for sure, though yeah...it is likely the insurance company will total it. But that car looks WAY to good to give up on. I've seen some cars way more hurt than that, and they were fixed better than new. I wish I could show you a before and after pic of a Lincoln Town Car my dad bought several years ago. He has a friend that has a body shop. This was a new car that listed for over $40K. It had got hit right between the doors and was damned near folded in half! Total loss. The car was bent at about a 15 degree angle, and my dad's friend fixed it right up, sold it to my dad for $18K.
A good body shop can fix damned near any damage.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by revsteve
It is the dump trucks insurance company (at least thats the unofficial word) paying for it.
Oh, So its not your insurance?? Well, then, its a different story! Its your choice to fix it if you like!!! Most likely the agent from his company will try to settle it by totaling the car but you could fight back with providing how rare it is, how hard it is to find one in that shape, all the mods, single owner, sentimental value you have for the car, etc etc.. If you REALLY want to fix this thing and take it to the BEST bodyshop in NE, its your choice!
I know this as back in 1997, my beloved car was involved in an accident and the other guys insurance wanted to total it! After sending them 20 pages of reciepts and multiple phone calls telling them that I didn't not want to total it, they decided to let me get it fixed! Damage was about as bad as yours (not RX7)!

Good to know it wasn't your fault
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Glad your OK.
Now for a second...second opinion....
A whole bunch of years ago I worked my way through college in my Dad's shop. Still this opinion may be worth no more than what you paid for it.....
The insurance company will almost surely total it. Years ago the rule of thumb was that if the damage exceeded 70% of the value of the car, it was a total. That's probably changed alittle, but I still think they'll total it.
That said, if I could buy it back from the insurance company, I would consider it. Nothing appears to have gotten into the mechanicals. The suspension is the big question. If it's just a broken tie-rod and bent control arm, that may not be that bad. The unibody (you have no frame) will need repair, but from the pictures I really don't think it's that bad. Remove all the sheet metal and you might be surprised. The biggest PITA that I immediately see is sourcing a decent 1/4 panel. I don't think the other parts would be too tough.
It's a personal injury accident and your a claimant. They should want to make you happy. Plus, they don't run a salvage operation. It will cost them to have it stored and auctioned. I am NOT recommending you buy it back, but unless it violates a company policy to allow it, getting it back might be an option for you. It really depends on how much of the work your able to do yourself and your level of ambition. But if they gave me a decent retail on the car and allowed me to buy it back for say.....< 3- 4k, I might do it. At least I'd run the numbers.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Since we are talking about insurance and accidents..

Me and my wife bought a new 2006 MX5 last year... less than 3 weeks of owning, my wife was rear ended by an SUV. It did over 8k worth of damage and I wanted the car to be totalled! Asked the adjuster that we wanted to just total the car and get a new one (less then 2k miles), they said NO! After the other guys insurance paid for 30+ days of rental car for my wife (because the car was so new, some parts needed to be made and shipped to USA), her medical bills, compensation for time lost, it would of been better for them to total it! But they didn't!!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Dam That Sucks Glad Your Ok
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by revsteve
Anyone got a sub 45k all original FD I can take off your hands?

Not me, but this dealer appearently does:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA:IT&ih=017

WOW!

take the total check and buy this one!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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It's totaled. I was hit in the right front. Nowhere near as bad looking as your car. Over $8K of damage. The body shop guy told me the adjuster said it was close to being totaled.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Sorry to hear your loss, at least you both are O.K.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Sorry to hear that man... that FD is really clean. The insurance company will definatley total it out though. You might as well collect the insurance money and try to fix it if the unibody isnt twisted.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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the car doesnt look to bad... i mean it dont seem like the frame is messed up.. should get it cheaked first... i would fix it if it were me...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Sorry for the loss....

Those 'burt' fingers must hurt...

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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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defanatly needs to go to a frame shop to be checked/maybee stretched back to strait.
That's some of the best advice offered in this thread. You definitely want a hard truth judgment from a good frame shop, not just an auto body shop.

Be aware....a frame can be pulled back into shape, but that doesn't mean it's as good as new. Metal loses its strength when it's bent one way, then bent back into shape. You can wind up with a lot of chassis flex, which is a shame in a car like the FD which is so precise. It may not feel like the same car even though superficially it can be made to look like the same car.

cptpaik is also right. You're looking at some serious front end damage. It's hard to tell from the photos, but that corner of the car, including part of the unibody may have to be virtually rebuilt. You'll want to know the worst before you decide to plunge into a project. It's the only way to do it. Otherwise you could spend a big amount, run into a serious roadblock, and wind up with a half finished car and an empty pocket.

It sure was a nice looking car though. Hope it works out for you.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Like everyone says, it is totalled.

I think it is fixable, check the sig...
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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You're on the wrong coast jeff

If you were about 3000 miles closer i'd have you do it!

Thanks for all the opinions. Its helping me bide the time until the adjuster calls me and lets me know he's going to take a look at the car.

Side question - do the mods add to or detract from the value of the car? Ive thought about telling him there are about 3500 worth of retail mods in there (if not more) plus another $2000 in electronics (gauges, controllers, stereo, etc) in order to increase the value of the car.

Also - will i get a chance to take back my performance parts before they cart her off to the salvage yard? I'd like to get those back and install them on the new car.

Thanks in advance forum - you guys are the best.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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That interior is incredible. Glad you're ok and sorry for the car.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by revsteve

Side question - do the mods add to or detract from the value of the car? Ive thought about telling him there are about 3500 worth of retail mods in there (if not more) plus another $2000 in electronics (gauges, controllers, stereo, etc) in order to increase the value of the car.

Also - will i get a chance to take back my performance parts before they cart her off to the salvage yard? I'd like to get those back and install them on the new car.

Thanks in advance forum - you guys are the best.
Well, if you want to get it fixed, then you need to leave it on and give them the reciepts or proof how much they are worth... Since its other guys fault, they are responsible for compensating what you lost.. including all the modified parts!

If it was your fault and your insurance was involved, then they wouldn't compensate for all the aftermarket stuff you put in.. hence why people get different kind of insurance.

Hope this helps..
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