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Old 05-11-04, 10:20 AM
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Question Precautions to take when buying a used tranny?

Is there a way to check synchros on a tranny when its off the car?

I'm considering buying a used tranny rather than rebuild my grinding 5th gear synchro but I'm concerned that I might wind up with worse than what I've got. My other synchros are great and shifts well.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
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You know the 5th gear syncro repair can be performed while the tranny is in the car. The 5th gear syncro itself is something like $14 from Mazdacomp. If you have been grinding the gear often and hard then you might also need a gear, it is like $70. The gears are very tough so I would doubt that you need one.

You could also pull the tranny and take it to a shop so they could replace 5th gear.

Otherwise to answer your question, I don't know any way to check a trans without installing it.

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I noticed your sig says 4.30 gears, let me know what you think about them. I've got a set waiting to be installed.
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Originally posted by turbojeff
You know the 5th gear syncro repair can be performed while the tranny is in the car. The 5th gear syncro itself is something like $14 from Mazdacomp. If you have been grinding the gear often and hard then you might also need a gear, it is like $70. The gears are very tough so I would doubt that you need one.

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I noticed your sig says 4.30 gears, let me know what you think about them. I've got a set waiting to be installed.
Huh, no I didn't know that. I thought the whole tranny needed to come out and be taken apart. Thanks for the info.

I've actually only shifted into 5th gear 8 times since my synchro went. It pisses me off so much to feel the grind that I just drive it like my first 4 speed VW.

If that is all it costs, I think I'll have someone knowledgable fix it rather than ripping everything apart again.

I have little knowledge of fixing trannys. In all these years of hard driving and track days, I've never broken one or screwed up a synchro. My synchro went bad after my clutch fork broke and I *lightly* tapped each gear to try and get it off the road. I can't believe the freaking synchro is so fragile...

Anyway, I like the 4.30 gears. They were on there when I bought the car. Seem absolutely fine on the street. It doesn't feel like you are driving with short gearing at all.

Thanks again.
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The syncro isn't *that* fragile, I've missed the 2-3 upshift a few times and haven't had any problems. Your car probably had a previous owner that missed a quite a few shifts and damaged/weakended it, you just finished it off.
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You are probably right. That and it has 120k miles on it.

btw - i see you on GRM often when I go there for some variety
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