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Old 03-14-12, 12:52 PM
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Question Overheated engine garbage or can I sell it?

Hey one question tha i guys eith more experience can help me out! !!!
I recently bought an rx7 FD with not working engine (overheat) and the last owner told me tha this engine was the 2nd one tha he install ...
now i bought the car with the intentions of doin a 1jz
To make this story short i dnt know what to do with the Rotary engine
Sell it or junked? ?? Any advice will be appreciate t
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You would have to take it apart and find out what was still good and what was junk. I'd certainly sell the good parts out of it though.
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You can use it as a core for buying a new motor from Mazda as well.
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Yep, that core is worth a good chunk of change as is. It's also quite possible there's many good parts in the motor.

Also, I've yet to see a decent 1jz/2jz swap done, going down that road is the fast way to turn the car into a garage ornament. Get it running again with a rotary (which would make me happy) or do a LS swap which is well documented and has been done well (which would not make me happy).

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depends

an overheated engine, if it was stored with the cooling system full could wind up an anchor. i probably wouldn't give you more than $200 for it without it being cracked open.
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If you remove the turbos and turbo manifold, you can shine a flash light in the exhaust ports and see if there is a bunch of rust on the rotors. If there is heavy rust/rust water in the housings and on the rotors then the irons are rusted and junk as well.

If you dont see standing rust water or rusty rotors when you rotate the engine it is probably worth $4-500.00 in short block form. Good thing is the housings dont rust but you dont know if they are warped. One low mileage housing is worth $4-500.00 these days.
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Originally Posted by djseven

If you dont see standing rust water or rusty rotors when you rotate the engine it is probably worth $4-500.00 in short block form. Good thing is the housings dont rust but you dont know if they are warped. One low mileage housing is worth $4-500.00 these days.
housings do rust, but it takes a bit more than a few weeks to damage them. have 1 housing that rusted completely through the steel liner and the other from the same engine had rust built up underneath the chrome surface creating air pockets like cancer under paint. strangely enough the irons actually weren't too bad, the rotors and housings took most of the damage when usually it is the other way around.
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Originally Posted by djseven
If you remove the turbos and turbo manifold, you can shine a flash light in the exhaust ports and see if there is a bunch of rust on the rotors. If there is heavy rust/rust water in the housings and on the rotors then the irons are rusted and junk as well.

If you dont see standing rust water or rusty rotors when you rotate the engine it is probably worth $4-500.00 in short block form. Good thing is the housings dont rust but you dont know if they are warped. One low mileage housing is worth $4-500.00 these days.

Thanks alot
Im goin to pull the engine and check tha... just for curiosity lol but however gonna sell the complete engine and tyranny with a new clutch all together.... just wanted to know if it was worth some cash
Thanks
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Whatever comes in the engine and tranny will b for sale
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
You can use it as a core for buying a new motor from Mazda as well.
Just for curiosity how much is a motor from mazda?
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New engine is around $4000 plus shipping.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
New engine is around $4000 plus shipping.

And i have to use all my sensors and turbos rite?
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Yes, you get just the shortblock with oil pan, flywheel, and wp housing, main pulleys.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Yes, you get just the shortblock with oil pan, flywheel, and wp housing, main pulleys.
You guys got me thinking about this... its sounds cheaper then rebuilding the engine but what holds me back is tha I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ROTARIES engines LOL
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Do your reading, hopefully you will stick with the rotary. They can be pretty quick.
I for one think they are simpler then other engines, that is once you get your head around them.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
New engine is around $4000 plus shipping.
Brand new? Where are people still ordering these from thesedays? Gracias.
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The truth is, these cars don't need 700whp to be considered fast. We leave that for tubby chassis kids like the Supra. A 400whp FD will run 11's, and they only get faster from there. In fact, there is documentation of an FD with twins, making 409whp running a 10.9 1/4 mile. With this, a 400whp FD can be VERY reliable. Proper system upgrade, water injection, and tuning is the key. Of course the rotary can make 5-700hp with proper mods. Reliabilty does start to reduce in this range. This kind of power is reserved mostly for drag cars.

An engine can be rebuilt quite easily, and paid to have rebuilt for around $2500-3000. It depends greatly on what parts need replaced. Just like a piston engine, you can do it on a budget or go big.

As far as the swap goes, you will have much more time, money, and headache re-inventing the wheel. If you absolutely have to show it off to the Toyota crowd, then there are bolt in cradles sold.
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I sold one bare for for 400 without knowing the running history !
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What would b the fastest way to see if there's internal damaged on the engine?
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Originally Posted by XLR8
The truth is, these cars don't need 700whp to be considered fast. We leave that for tubby chassis kids like the Supra. A 400whp FD will run 11's, and they only get faster from there. In fact, there is documentation of an FD with twins, making 409whp running a 10.9 1/4 mile. With this, a 400whp FD can be VERY reliable. Proper system upgrade, water injection, and tuning is the key. Of course the rotary can make 5-700hp with proper mods. Reliabilty does start to reduce in this range. This kind of power is reserved mostly for drag cars.




An engine can be rebuilt quite easily, and paid to have rebuilt for around $2500-3000. It depends greatly on what parts need replaced. Just like a piston engine, you can do it on a budget or go big.

As far as the swap goes, you will have much more time, money, and headache re-inventing the wheel. If you absolutely have to show it off to the Toyota crowd, then there are bolt in cradles sold.


I already check some shops around my area and the cheapest one i found was $4,500
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Originally Posted by charlie 7
What would b the fastest way to see if there's internal damaged on the engine?
Take it apart.

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Originally Posted by charlie 7
I already check some shops around my area and the cheapest one i found was $4,500
Any shop that blindly quotes $4500 for a rebuild doesn't have customer interests in mind....

You can buy a fresh Mazda Remanufactured engine for $3000.

GL OP
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Originally Posted by XLR8
Any shop that blindly quotes $4500 for a rebuild doesn't have customer interests in mind....

You can buy a fresh Mazda Remanufactured engine for $3000.

GL OP
3000 thats a great deal.
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Im pretty sure the remans have been discontinued for over a couple years now unless someone stumbled upon a dealership with a couple sitting around.

Last I heard the only option Mazda provided was a new engine for $4500.00.

You could ship the engine you have to rotaryresurrection.com in TN for around $400.00 round trip. Worst case scenario the rebuild would be around $25-2800.00 with a lot of nice upgrades to boot. If you take it to a shop in Cali they have to cover that high cost of living out there so you have to pay more.
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This is the place to come to if you want rotary help, for sure. I, like most others here, am in the camp of 'put a working rotary engine back in', it is the best option in my opinion. You COULD take the low-cost road and get a salvage yard...er, automobile recyler, I mean...engine for about 1/3 the cost of going new, if you're lucky. Or spend the bucks and do it right with a new engine if you plan on keeping the car. Remember, there were only around 15,000 of these cars imported to the U.S. during its three year run.
15,000.
Compare that to the top selling vehicles like Camry's or Ford F-150 pickups that have 400,000 PER YEAR made, and you see how truly rare the FD is, and why it is worth fixing up RIGHT.



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