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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Oil jet line snaped.

The line snaped while tightening it down. Can I replace the line and re-crimp the fittings or do I need to give mazda a call? If it is replaceable, where can I find a suitable line?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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from mazda i'm pretty sure you can get the line for around 15 bucks
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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Assuming you mean the oil metering pump lines, get the Stainless Steel ones. Not much more expensive than factory, and *much* more durable.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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Assuming you mean the oil metering pump lines, get the Stainless Steel ones. Not much more expensive than factory, and *much* more durable.
sounds good? Would a local parts houses stock these lines? I'd like to get them ASAP.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by seandizzie
sounds good? Would a local parts houses stock these lines? I'd like to get them ASAP.
http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/...roducts_id=857

Also, a couple of other places have them as well.....rx7store and scalliwag performance, to name a few.

Duke, the stockers are quite a bit more than that. You are lucky to get one bolt from Mazda for that price.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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damn. Thats outrageous! $100 for maybe 4ft of line. thanks for the link though
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Scalliwags are about the best price I think, but I think his supplies are limited to how many fittings he can make with the time he has.
I got mine from gotham, and I think they are goodridge lines, though they run about double the price, but scalliwag wasn’t making them yet when I was in the market for them

Defiantly a good purchase at either price I think
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by seandizzie
damn. Thats outrageous! $100 for maybe 4ft of line. thanks for the link though
Welcome to FD ownership . I believe the stockers are ~$45 each, so do the math. Also, they are not as easy to fab as you might think, and the banjo fittings are not cheap by themselves. When you look at them as a lifetime product, vs the almost disposable stockers, they're not a bad deal.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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RotorSports Racing near Charlotte, NC, also has the SS lines. www.rotorsportsracing.com
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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This is weird, i was just looking at these on Gotham and then someone posted about them. Maybe it's a sign i should get them..
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Just ordered a set of OEM lines from Malloy for $25 ea. I figure they'll last another 11 years.

Those old ones were crispy though... just tidying up around the fuel rails and bumped one...*crunch!* into 3 pieces
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I ordered new lines from malloy when I was doing all of my upgrades and the engine was out. My stock lines only had 52k on them and they were fine but I thought they could crack. When I got the new lines they looked and felt the same. Instantly sold those and got the gotham ones. I actually talked to you goodfella on the phone to order them : ) Very nice product a must have if you have a lot invested in your engine setup
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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!&@%#! Son of a b........! I didn't need to hear that!

Until I read this thread I had no idea aftermarket OMP lines were available! Why the !^@*#
did Mazda use that brittle soda-straw plastic hose to connect to the hottest part of the motor?

Anybody want some brand new OEM lines?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:04 AM
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can someone post a pic of how these lines are routed? thanks

I heard they are a PITA to replace....true?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zullo
!&@%#! Son of a b........! I didn't need to hear that!

Until I read this thread I had no idea aftermarket OMP lines were available! Why the !^@*#
did Mazda use that brittle soda-straw plastic hose to connect to the hottest part of the motor?

Anybody want some brand new OEM lines?
sure, I'll take 'em
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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Just ordered them today, so I'll take a look at 'em when they arrive Friday and let you know if I want to keep them.

Replacing them is a breeze if you have absolutely everything off the motor. They run around the water pump and under the UIM and everything else, including the wiring harness, solenoid rack, and fuel rails
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zullo
Replacing them is a breeze if you have absolutely everything off the motor. They run around the water pump and under the UIM and everything else, including the wiring harness, solenoid rack, and fuel rails
wonderful....
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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Well, they're not as bad as was led on. They're pliable and pre-contoured to fit just right, which is worth a lot, given the extremely tight areas they run through.

I can see the braided lines being reluctant to make the tight twists, zigs, and zags these lines need to follow. Braided steel lines tend to have a mind of their own,...

So I think I'll hold on to them... bird in the hand, y'know.

Last edited by zullo; Dec 4, 2004 at 01:21 AM. Reason: afterthought :)
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the ancient words
can someone post a pic of how these lines are routed? thanks

I heard they are a PITA to replace....true?
I had a oil injector problem a year ago. Takes a little time but I did it before when I changed my Vac hoses, so it was not a big deal. The small problem I had, finding a wrench to fit so I could tighten them. I ended up having to cut off the rounded ends of the wrench because you don't have much room to turn it. That helped on front oil injector but I ended up having to loosen the pri. injector housing to tighten the other one. Here are some photo's of the area i'm talking about.... the ones that are hard to find. The rest you can see under the car and around the pulleys..etc...
Attached Thumbnails Oil jet line snaped.-pic-3.jpg   Oil jet line snaped.-pic-4.jpg   Oil jet line snaped.-oil-injector-lines.jpg  
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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This is one of those things (there are many) where the easiest/best time to do the R&R is when you are building up the motor......
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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The stainless lines are nice, but seriously the OEM lines do last around 100,000 miles. On FC's, I have NEVER seen one fail spontaneously - they only break when you try to remove them. When I did my first rebuild on my FC, I bought a new set of OMP lines - they went through 2 subsequent engine rebuilds without a single problem.

Really, this is just one of those minor maintenance things like radiator hoses - you know you're gonna have to replace them at some point or the other, with the exception being they're not going to spontaneously break on you, they only break when you mess with them.

I agree with Goodfella - just replace them during an engine rebuild. Or, if you know you're going to be down there and you'll be removing them, go ahead and get a new set. I just don't see the advantage of going to SS lines - if anything, they'll be harder to route and will provide an abrasion point if something (hoses, wiring) rubs against the stainless braid, and that could definitely cause a problem.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Generally- the plastic lines are OK -but they do get brittle and break very easily, we designed the original SS OMP lines because we wanted to offer a better option for racecars that have the manifolds removed more frequently. We are the suppliers for these lines to Gotham and RX7 store.
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