hey BENSACHE....have Hinson given u a quote yet? Just wondering what thw actuall cost of a swap would be if they did it.

 

Tell us how you really feel.

 

I bought one doing the same thing. I would venture to say that it had never had the fuel filter changed. When I finally got it out from over the diff, it was almost completely plugged. Swapped in a new one and the car straightened out. On this site, every first response is a blown motor, and rightly so, there are a lot of horror stories. But don't be alarmed. There are alot of needless engine swaps too, especially from dealers and unknowledgeable shade tree mechanics. (I value the stealerships very little)

With a ECM controlled car, you can't account for all the extreme circumstances that can occur. The tell tale sign was a lot of black smoke on acceleration. My car ran very very rich. I felt ok about that because it wasn't likely to knock. The very low fuel pressure at the rail probably caused a weird state in the ECM. I have seen a pinched vacumm line do the same thing. Result = bad idle, rich smell, oxy sensor codes etc... Do the easy cheap stuff first. Don't neglect the filters and fluids, ever!
Fix all noticeable leaks. Then you can think a little more clearly to problem solve. Otherwise, you'll go in circles.

 

That's cool, this is america, no disrespect but I was just debating the reasoning behind this, maybe to just provoke thought changing dialog, make him reconsider and keep the car the way it was "intended" to be. not a big deal. As far as the "RX" meaning, I read multiple publications stating this to be the definition. I apologize if I am inacurate in the meaning. CantGoStraight, sorry you took that so personally, I was just doing my duty as a Rotary enthuisiast to try an save one. I don't give a **** what he does, or anyone else for that matter. I do what I want and I expect you all to do the same. So chill.

 

you're 31? HOLY **** YOU'RE OLD!!! j/k

 

thanx, I feel the love!!

 

Well, I'm only 23, so I've got really no right to be chewin on anyone's butt..... that didn't sound right

 

Comet, its cool. I know I was getting a little upset at all these engine swap stories. I probably sounded like an adolescent, it just really disturbs me I guess. Oh well. to each his own.
Watch out my man, 23 is young but it goes fast, also I get to enjoy life a little better now than I did at 23. I am still younger than half of the people my age anyway, looks and at heart. Have fun guys. Comet your alright with me.

 

No disrespect to you Sonix7 (I hope none was taken, none taken here) this guy lucked into one of those deals we all wish we could find. There are young people buying these cars thinking they know everything and doing more harm to them than this guy will do. They wind up in salvage yards wrecked, or in back yards to rust away do to lack of funds to repair. If it's not BS and this actually bought a 93 CYM R-1 then it's a shame to see it hacked. I would be nice if these engines weren't so expensive to rebiuld, look at the price to rebuild a 350 small block chevy compaired to just a gasket kit for our cars....it's rediculous.

 

Thats part of buying the car, its part of the package, you shouldn't buy it unless your willing to deal with the extreme price.

Swapping is not an option.

 

I agree. No hard feelings, my friend. I am just passionate about this car and its existence. I feel like the FD is the car I have always been looking for in my life. There just isn't any other car out there for me (VIPER an exception) it gives me a sense of individualism in this stereotypical world, you just can't go and find them everywhere and buy one. Unique is a big part of its appeal. It is the most fun car I have ever been in, and is years ahead of its time. I know I sound like ******* prophet or something but hey, this is the effect this car has had on me. That's even with all the issues that come with it. That is passion. I know you guys are the same way. RIGHT?

 

Me I'm passionate about this car. Saw my first one at Sebring raceway in 94 (turned out to be a 93) and the guy still owns it (one of the Skippy instructors) found out how much they cost and knew I'd never have one (40 some odd k) kinda forgot about them for awhile then one day see the same car in early 2000 decide to see what prices are doing. Found my first one (auto for 8k) base model everything worked awsome. Well I wrecked that one (rain, poor decission and trasnition + wooooooohoooooooooo off road excursion) these cars suck off road. Insurances settles i find a second (94 touring) one with bad coolant seals for 9k sell the polished pettit cool charge II IC for $700 so now I have 8300 in it, preform the block weld treatment drive the car for a year saving money for motor. Never should have sold that IC. The i find a second 94 white FD PEP model for daily driver....here I am thinking I'll never own one of them and now own two. Yep I love these cars. Hate to see the CYM R-1 hacked, but then again look at all of the ones turned into race cars (still rotary) but still hacked, which we all are doing when it's no longer stock. The only thing I see as not being hacked id doing things to the car that remove heat from the engine bay and hose mods for reliability.

 

yep he is passionate about this car. I too had the '93 new experience. Sat in a brand new off the lot and to the stereo store '93 red touring in '93. I was just out of highschool and it was like a ******* spaceship to me. I had never seen such a nice car, one of the richest guys in town dad owned it. Only one. He had it customized with a Clarion Voice recognition stereo system. We are talking high tech at the time. I was blown away, I too thought I would never own one. That's what dreams are all about, fullfilling the dream. CantGoStraight has opened my eye, I am getting on this guy and people have done a lot worse, your right. Its just that it hurts bad at this phase of the game. They will be extinct in 5 years the way we are going. I just don't want it to happen.

 

Hinson hasn't quoted me yet but my friend's FC swap ran ~9700. I've talked to th e guy that does the swaps and he said they usually run 8K+ depending on what upgrades, instumentation, etc. you want. That FC is probably the fastest and quickest car I've ever been in and it still handles curves. About the keeping the rotary, you're right about basically ripping the soul from the car, and I wouldn't at all mind keeping it. I just don't want to have to rebuild a motor every 60k or so. BTW what kind of hp can be reliably driven for 60k or so?

 

We can fix this.....make more money and buy em all up and store them away from the bad guys. ! ! ! !!

 

We might have to do this. I am sure Rynberg and dgessaman and a lot of others would help. At least get one of each model and year and build an arc to save them. I know, I am having a lot of fun. Well, can you blame me?

 

That requires both money and space. Sorry, I have NO flexibility there.

Dave

 

thought I would mention you Dave, didn't want to leave you out.

 

Hmmmmmmm if I had the money I could afford the space = no problem and the Ark shall be built. Jason got a moutian to put the Ark on ? ? ?

 

two of each, I got about 14 mountains a couple miles away. hey CantGoStraight, we both need to get out and drive, bro. I am stuck at work and you sound just as busy as me. At least we can enjoy a laugh.

 

I was actually just out in the car (about a half hour ago) car runs good in the evening ! ! !
Working on gettin my bling bling ready to go in the engine bay. This front off the east coast that threatens to be a hurricane is cooling things off so I hope to get some work done tomorrow. What hours you work ? ? ? ? Do you rotate shifts ? ? ?

 

I own a tanning salon here in ft collins. We are open 10 - 7 every day except Sunday. My schedule is pretty flexible. I just recently got her back up and kicking. I am just finishing the interior bling. I am waiting for some stuff I ordered and then I hope to finish it up, oh and I got the springs to put on. Now I am looking at the exhaust and the brakes as next place to upgrade. oh and a Power FC. I am taking my time and doing things right and in good taste. I will never get rid of this car, so I have some time. A true weekend driver sometimes not for many weekends. It doesn't come out when the snow or any bad weather comes, I drove it once in rain, that is it. Anyway you better be careful and watch out down there in those storms. I am sure you are used to it. Still, be careful.

 

10 pm to 7 am ???? as it was late when you were posting so I figured night shift job. I guess we can consider this thread hi-jacked LOL Perhaps we can start a save the 7 club across the country for all he thrid gens.

Ps. in reference to this thread (so it's not a total jacking) the only problem with this new FD is it's owner.

 

This thread is way off-topic, and that statement is rather uncalled for.

While I sort of sigh whenever someone talks about the v8 swap, I understand. Less engine bay heat, more power/torque, less complexity, excellent fitment, etc. The good news is that you can swap a rotary back in later. But to buy your first RX-7 and never learn an appreciation for the rotary is sort of sad. But it's not my choice. It's not yours either.

Dave

 

Not a choice, just an opinion. Like most opinions it really doesn't matter what mine is but most all of us voice it at one time or another. It's more the Ford thing that gets me than the V-8 thing. We all make mistakes and most of us would like to see this one avoided.