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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Need Quick answer on battery relocation

im currently doing a battery relocation

i need 2x 150amp circuit breaker Car & boot sound system

only problem is 2x Stinger 150 Circuit Breakers is £80.00 = $115.00

or i can get 2x Stinger 140 Circuit Breakers is £30.00 = $42.8082

question is, will a 140amp circuit breaker beable to put enough power to the starter? as it would save be lots of money in the endless money pit

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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I think that should be more than enough...I am not a professional but I am going to go out on a limb and say that these starters prolly don't pull much more than 100 amps if they even pull that.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Obie2kenobe
I think that should be more than enough...I am not a professional but I am going to go out on a limb and say that these starters prolly don't pull much more than 100 amps if they even pull that.
that what i thought, its just all the battery relocations ive seen have 150amp breakers, so its been playin on my mind, wonder what would be the worst thing that would happen if it wasnt enough
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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the car would turn over slow???
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Obie2kenobe
the car would turn over slow???
O i thought the circuit breaker would just keep going and id have to keep reseting it
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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the main fuse is 120a i believe but with a breaker its good to have some overhead beyond that because breakers are much faster and could be tripped by a sudden surge. Im using a 200a in mine.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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I'm using a 150 amp breaker in mine and have never tripped it so I doubt 140 amps would make much of a difference.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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You can get those breakers for cheap from delcity.net or waytekwire.com
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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cheers lads, ill order them today
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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150A vs 140A is a 7% difference. I would be surprised if their QC accuracy rating for either breaker is less than 7%
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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150A vs 140A is a 7% difference. I would be surprised if their QC accuracy rating for either breaker is less than 7%
cheers feel better now
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Phaz
im currently doing a battery relocation

i need 2x 150amp circuit breaker Car & boot sound system

only problem is 2x Stinger 150 Circuit Breakers is £80.00 = $115.00

or i can get 2x Stinger 140 Circuit Breakers is £30.00 = $42.8082

question is, will a 140amp circuit breaker beable to put enough power to the starter? as it would save be lots of money in the endless money pit

Cheers
Lee
Yeah, I bought a Stinger too.

Do you think Stinger is really making those circuit breakers themselves?

I don't - check this out: BUSS 150 Breaker

$22.80 US sounds a little better, doesn't it?

I'm pretty user a lot of companies OEM this circuit breaker and put their own brand on it.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jkstill
Yeah, I bought a Stinger too.

Do you think Stinger is really making those circuit breakers themselves?

I don't - check this out: BUSS 150 Breaker

$22.80 US sounds a little better, doesn't it?

I'm pretty user a lot of companies OEM this circuit breaker and put their own brand on it.
yer i think your right looks just the same and prob is, its a shame that stinger think if they put a stupidly high price on it people will always pay it. When your really just paying to have a gold Stinger label lol
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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If you're simply relocating the battery and running a line to the engine bay, do you really need a breaker near the battery? Thx...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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If you're simply relocating the battery and running a line to the engine bay, do you really need a breaker near the battery? Thx...
Yes.

Try connecting a cable directly from the positive terminal to the chassis and see what happens.

Actually, don't - you may burn your car to the ground.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
Yes.

Try connecting a cable directly from the positive terminal to the chassis and see what happens.

Actually, don't - you may burn your car to the ground.
No no, not to the chassis... Running 4ga from the battery (bin) to under hood fuse block... critical to have a 150 amp circuit breaker in between?

Also, that happened when I was wiring a 1952 MG TD... Positive ground, go figure
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TimeMachine
No no, not to the chassis... Running 4ga from the battery (bin) to under hood fuse block... critical to have a 150 amp circuit breaker in between?
The breaker needs to be as close as possible to the battery so that if the remaining length of cable becomes compromised in an accident or through abrasion it will trigger. Obviously, it will not protect the cable between the battery and the breaker but that length should be so short that it is very unlikely to happen.

That said, most cars don't actually have a breaker between the battery and the starter motor, even if they have the battery in the trunk. OEM cable routing is likely to be more secure than a user installation, however. Recent BMWs actually have a small explosive breaker on the battery terminal that is activated in an accident to stop the battery dumping current through a compromised cable.

For $20-$30 it is cheap insurance. Some breakers also have a cut-off switch, which is very useful.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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For $20-$30 it is cheap insurance. Some breakers also have a cut-off switch, which is very useful.
I absolutely agree... just didn't understand how that all works. Thanks for explaining its necessity
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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A fuse/breaker is in there to protect the wire from burning (and in turn the car). It is not there to protect the components hooked up to it. Because of this, it is required that you put the circuit breaker as close to the source of power as possible. If you have a short between the source and the breaker, the wire will burn and melt... completely. And could easily start a car-fire.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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Also, the breaker should be matched to the gauge wire being used.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Also, the breaker should be matched to the gauge wire being used.
Only in the sense that the wire must have a current carrying capacity of greater than the breaker. You can use any gauge you want with a particular breaker as long as its current carrying capacity is larger than the breaker rating.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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i have used many 80 amp breaker in my battery relocations so yeah, 140 will do...

oh and i never had one poped.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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moconner is right.

Your wire MUST be able to carry more current than the breaker is rated for. Otherwise, the wire will just burn before it ever pops the breaker.

I am willing to bet you don't even need more than a 100 amp breaker. Once the car is running, the battery doesn't supply power, it is being charged.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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if anybody cares you can pick these up in the states at your local autozone for $27. just picked one up for mine.
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