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Ok check this out, i have the blitz sbc id III and i wanted to know wich would be best for my install, using stock twins. Do i have to worry about the pills that everyone talkes about? If you guys can help please let me know wich one is beter and at the bottom there is one callef SWEET i take it that its the best set up, is this ok to do thanks.

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Hey Mahjik Were Are You On This One, Need Your Help

Narfle

iTrader: (16)

Remove all the pills. They are a sort of manual boost controller from the factory and are now useless. And version 1 is your best bet. Version 2 is redundant. You have two nipple fitting, use one per solenoid. Version SWEET is garbage. If you were to run them in series(which is a bad idea) youd put the pre control first. Plumbing them in series will compromise one of the solenoids which is...to be avoided.

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

i thought you set it up just like this, run the wires here to the corresponding in and out on the solinoid?

7racer

bound,

where did you get the diagram labelled as "sweet"???

I don't remember seeing that one before.

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hey B that this post was for you and me dude since my 7 will be ready by this weekend i wanted to make sure you know.

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i got this from one of the fourm members, i thought it was kinda cool, but i got a lil lost becuase another member sent me that pic that purerx7 has up, and the hoese were routed diff on each page. So im just trying to make sure that i dont pop anythig.

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hey purerx7, B i think that all we needed to do to make it ver 1 is to cap off the waistgate line going to the stock solinode. If you guys see something wrong about this please please let us know its not just me who needs the info thanks.

Stix37867

iTrader: (1)

So i just installed my boost controller and took out the wastegate pill when doing so. But you said that i'm supposed to remove both pills???

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that was one of my ? that i had as well, but in the diagram in ver.1 it shows that there is a pill in the PCA, so im going to make sure i have it out in the wastegate, is the pill at the bottom hose or on the top of the waistgate.

Narfle

iTrader: (16)

the precontrol pill can stay unless youre messing with it. if youre leaving it alone the pill can stay.

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ohok kool that will work. so only thing left is to plug up the waistgate going to the solinode, boy this sure does help, and i hope that this post can help others that are stuck like i was, so thanks again everybody that helped.

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

wait, can someone clarify what is being plugged and not? I am rather confused......

mcf

I'm the guy who drew that diagram (not "version sweet") and years later I still stand by version 2. It's still flawless.

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ok MCF im going to with version 2 as well, but can you tell me what exp. you had with it? also did you ever do vers 1 to make you come to this conclution the ver 2 was beter? thanks

mcf

Version one... Boost spikes and less than optimal boost on the primary turbo.

Version two... full boost on primary and secondary. No boost spike.

If there is a downside the transition was slightly more noticeable, probably because the boost comes on stronger on the primary, but I've been running it this way for three years now and I have no complaints at all.

Good luck

MCF

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ok call it a done deal, so purerx7 hey B lets do ver. 2 and see what happends

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

i dont understand what ver 2 is, anyone have any pics of how its setup instead of just the diagram?

7racer

Pure,

In the diagram. Focus on the wastegate control and turbo precontrol.

The two hoses coming out (that are the blue and you can't see well), one goes to the wastegate control actuator, the other to the turbo precontrol.

In "version one", you splice the EBC motor in the line that goes to the wastegate control actuator. The line on the other side that goes out and goes to the stock solenoid gets capped.

In "version two", you tee the hoses from the source (the pic that you see two nipples on in the photo that shoes the actual area in this thread), to the IN on the EBC motor. Then on the out of the EBC motor you again tee it and send that signal (pressure or vacuum) to the actuators. In essence, the wastegate and precontrol see the same signal and are controlled by the EBC.



here is the full diagram
http://www.autosportracetech.com/RX-7/vacuum.jpg

good read here:
http://www.autosportracetech.com/RX-7/rx7stuff.htm

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

ok look at this thing i drew for ver 2, is this what your talking about? Thanks again.
if this is correct than what am i suppose to cap off?

7racer

no.

where you have the IN is correct but the OUT goes back to the same place. Just think of it as you are inserting the EBC inbetween the first line.

Where you incorrectly have the Out should be capped.

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

ok thanks 7 racer, so it should look like this than?

Narfle

iTrader: (16)

The "IN" should come from the UIM nipples and the "OUT" Should go where those blue lines go to the actuators and the other ends get capped. I think.

purerx7

iTrader: (61)

^no, that wasnt the description that 7 racer gave.

Narfle

iTrader: (16)

He was saying that the OUT is routed exactly where it was before but the IN is between the nipples and the actuators. Im pretty sure he wasnt referring to the picture for the OUT.