n3g1 ht12 turbo question? read pls
08-05-13, 05:39 PM
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n3g1 ht12 turbo question? read pls
hi
i was researching on 99 spec turbos and found out that there are some turbos which say N3G1 1703 and some of them say HT12 3
i just wanted to know if there is any significant difference or these are jus numbers marked on them.
thanx
anees
i was researching on 99 spec turbos and found out that there are some turbos which say N3G1 1703 and some of them say HT12 3
i just wanted to know if there is any significant difference or these are jus numbers marked on them.
thanx
anees
08-05-13, 05:50 PM
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Research the difference between 93 and 99 spec twins. There's tones of info on the forum about them
Basically, the 99 specs (N3G1) had several improvements made to them, including the CHRAs if I remember correctly. If your debating which ones to go with, spend the extra money and go with the 99s. T
Basically, the 99 specs (N3G1) had several improvements made to them, including the CHRAs if I remember correctly. If your debating which ones to go with, spend the extra money and go with the 99s. T
08-05-13, 08:19 PM
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HT12 is the size of the turbo .
HT12 is the size of the FD turbos which uses twin HT12's
HT 10 is smaller , it came on the cosmo as its secondary turbo .
all the 99 spec turbos SHOULD be HT12's
because the Cosmo which used the 10's stop production in 95. even in japan
HT12 is the size of the FD turbos which uses twin HT12's
HT 10 is smaller , it came on the cosmo as its secondary turbo .
all the 99 spec turbos SHOULD be HT12's
because the Cosmo which used the 10's stop production in 95. even in japan
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08-08-13, 06:37 AM
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For starters there is no '99 Spec' cover all upgrade part.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
08-08-13, 09:40 AM
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For starters there is no '99 Spec' cover all upgrade part.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
The 3 different model turbos were 92-95 , then the 96-98 with the higher nickel content , and then 99-2002 all of these cars had 280 hp( N3G1) , even the base model as well as the top of the line spirit R
and he was asking about the HT numbering that some turbos had , Cosmo motors had different sized turbos from the FD .. thich is where hte different sized turbos came into play
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08-08-13, 02:41 PM
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firstly the 280hp engine was optional in the 99+ cars, so some of them have the N3G1 ball bearing turbo and some have the same turbos as the rest of the 1992-98 cars.
secondly the 255/265hp turbo sets get updated for 1994 (N3A1-13-700 ->N3C1-13-700), and then again in 1996 (to the current N3C1-13-700A)
08-08-13, 03:05 PM
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this is incorrect.
firstly the 280hp engine was optional in the 99+ cars, so some of them have the N3G1 ball bearing turbo and some have the same turbos as the rest of the 1992-98 cars.
secondly the 255/265hp turbo sets get updated for 1994 (N3A1-13-700 ->N3C1-13-700), and then again in 1996 (to the current N3C1-13-700A)
firstly the 280hp engine was optional in the 99+ cars, so some of them have the N3G1 ball bearing turbo and some have the same turbos as the rest of the 1992-98 cars.
secondly the 255/265hp turbo sets get updated for 1994 (N3A1-13-700 ->N3C1-13-700), and then again in 1996 (to the current N3C1-13-700A)
well there you have it..
Point is they aren't 99 spec turbos .. Just N3G1s forget about the year and focus on that cant go wrong there
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08-09-13, 12:40 AM
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Stop posting incorrect information already.
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
08-09-13, 01:11 PM
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Let me be extremely clear: No one here cares about Australian FD specs by year.
The dude asked about turbos and I told him. "If they're n3g1, that's all that matters".
Remember the OP's question that started this thread?
At no point during any of your rambling did you come remotely close to answering the OP's question:
For starters there is no '99 Spec' cover all upgrade part.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
Some cars built after 99 got all the good bits, many did not.
There are at least 2 and I believe 3 models of turbo each with their own part number and minor differences. There is at least 2 models of standard down pipe, 2 models of rear muffler, 3 variants of the ECU.
ECU's also changed between Type 5 and Type 6. If you google the build dates you will find what Type 5 and Type 6 mean which is the only correct way to talk about any Japanese car if you want people to actually know what car you are talking about. The part numbers change between the 2 (at least for the high power models).
There is no 99 spec brakes. There are the big ones that came on the models RS,RZ, Spirit R Type A and Type B.
RS models were available for Version 5 and Version 6
RZ and the manual Spirit R cars are only Version 6 cars.
Type R cars got the upgraded turbos and engine and muffler parts but not the brakes, 17" wheels.
Stop posting incorrect information already.
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
08-09-13, 01:39 PM
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Stop posting incorrect information already.
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
Series is an Australian domestic market thing. Australian FD3S Cars are similar but not identical to Type 1 through Type 3 Japanese cars.
Series 1 through 3 means first gen (SA22C for all 1st gens in Australia not FB), and yes the next question yes Australia got all the upgrades that the US GSL's got. Australian 1980 through 1985 GSL's have an sa22c chassi number.
Series 4 through 5 means FC3S
Series 6 through 8 means FD3S
Australia got 'Series 7' cars but they remained more similar to Series 6 / Type 1 through Type 3 JDM cars, for EG they did not get 16 bit ECU's but they did all get a 5th gear for highway use and twin oil coolers and mostly leather packs I believe.
Type 1 through Type 6 refers to Japanese Market FD3S over the varying years. Nothing at all to do with 'Series'
The Japanese cars if you google Type 1 through type 6 in Japanese you will find information which proves me correct
08-09-13, 09:24 PM
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I said there are 6 Types of FD3S. The OP is asking about specifics of Type 5 and Type 6 FD3S which just so happen to be what most people incorrectly call '99 spec'.
You incorrectly disputed that by saying Type 5 I mean Series 5, which I did not.
I completely spoon fed you what Type means when referring to FD3S, and what Series means when refering to RX-7s in general and you are still to dumb to accept you are wrong.
You incorrectly disputed that by saying Type 5 I mean Series 5, which I did not.
I completely spoon fed you what Type means when referring to FD3S, and what Series means when refering to RX-7s in general and you are still to dumb to accept you are wrong.
08-10-13, 10:03 PM
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if the compressor housings bolt on, you have the 280hp turbos, if the compressor housings are held on with big snap rings/e clip, then its a 255/265hp turbo
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