My own intercooler and intake set up
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The intercooler set up is nice but what I really like is that intake, I've been brainstorming how to get cold air from that dead space for a while. I imagine this set up provides great bank for the buck, looks clean too.
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I was thinking about doing something similar to that with the XS power intercooler sitting in a stack of parts in my garage. That looks like the same intercooler as the XS power one on EBAY.
#29
I'm sorry wha?
I was thinking about doing the exact same thing...though I feel as thoguh the rad wouldn't get as much air...my only concern. With the exact same intercooler too haha.
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I wonder how well this setup would work with a smaller "mouth" for the duct (similar to the stock one) and an electric fan pulling air through the IC? Given the data from the thread link above of 1.5 mph exhaust air through the IC on a normal SMIC setup, the fan may help pull more cool air though the entire core of the IC. The angle of this setup kinda makes me wonder how much air is making it through the entire core, or if most of it passes through the end of the core closest to the engine. I say that just because the IC fins are not lined up directly to the inbound airflow, most of the air will travel as far as possible in an un-obstructed path, i.e. the end of the duct closest to the engine.
Don't get me wrong, I love the setup. I would like to do something very similar and it no doubt has to be better than the stock IC and duct. Just wondering...
Don't get me wrong, I love the setup. I would like to do something very similar and it no doubt has to be better than the stock IC and duct. Just wondering...
#31
i am actually looking at just-intercooler's intercoolers and was thinking...
when i went to the rolex 24 down here in daytona beach, i saw the corvette racing cars. since they had so much room from the front bumper to the front of the engine, they made the radiator tilt forward and had the hood curve down flush to the bottom of the rad, with the sides sealed up too. could this be done with a vmount setup too? this would eliminated worrying about rain gettin into the enginebay, because it would just fall through the ic out the front if you werent moving, and if you were it wouldnt even go in. if you could get it ducted perfectly, that would give a hell of a lot of cooling too. or is there a good reason that im too dumb to realize why people dont do this?
when i went to the rolex 24 down here in daytona beach, i saw the corvette racing cars. since they had so much room from the front bumper to the front of the engine, they made the radiator tilt forward and had the hood curve down flush to the bottom of the rad, with the sides sealed up too. could this be done with a vmount setup too? this would eliminated worrying about rain gettin into the enginebay, because it would just fall through the ic out the front if you werent moving, and if you were it wouldnt even go in. if you could get it ducted perfectly, that would give a hell of a lot of cooling too. or is there a good reason that im too dumb to realize why people dont do this?
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^ Yes sealing of a vented hood to whatever your trying to cool is the most eficient way to do it thats why the majority of sportscars are done like this, however i have reservations about v-mount setups because you are trying to split the amount of intake air between two things radiator and intercooler and i would worry about making the intercooler too eficient you may end up compromising your engine cooling. its all trial and error considering i don't believe anyone here has ever put an fd in a tunnel to see just what kind of pressure is where. I think the majority of vented hood are not sealed to coolers to do the lack of true r&d most of them are just built to look cool and to an extent they help to eliviate engine bay pressure by allowing more places for air to exit but most of them have very little actual data to prove there efficency.
#36
Awesome job! I've wanted to do something like that with my ic for a while but for some reason it never occurred to me to turn it around.
How much work was it to move the overflow tank?
How much work was it to move the overflow tank?
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embry riddle in daytona beach. unfortunately the 40k$ a year from like 3000 students cant get the engineering dept anything so i'd ahve to see about making a scale mockup or something. ahve to put a box under the hood for and 'engine' i guess?
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Thanks for starting this thread! Where exactly is your primary K&N sitting relative to the bumper inlet opening? I have mine apart right now and the only space I see that is big enough is definitely low enough to risk street water spray. Please advise.
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Never got any water on my filter element even on hard rains. The secondary air filter is layed out exactly the same as the primary(sorry no pic.) if you can imagine, the closed end of the filter is still facing the same way as the secondary pointing the pass. side. If you look inside the bumper opening on the pass. side behind the overflow tank, I used the biggest hole there to run the intake piping. Hope that helps.
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Sweet!
I've got an XSP cooler and a Koyo rad on the way soon, I'm debating whether or not to do something similar or just go with stock mount. I've got a limited amount of time until it gets mapped so I'm not sure i'll be able to go v-mount
I've always wondered just how relevant super cool air is on a FI Intercooled car, as surely once it's heated by the tubby and then cooled by the cooler, the effect of the temperature difference is somewhat reduced? May be talking tosh though
I've got an XSP cooler and a Koyo rad on the way soon, I'm debating whether or not to do something similar or just go with stock mount. I've got a limited amount of time until it gets mapped so I'm not sure i'll be able to go v-mount
I've always wondered just how relevant super cool air is on a FI Intercooled car, as surely once it's heated by the tubby and then cooled by the cooler, the effect of the temperature difference is somewhat reduced? May be talking tosh though
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Sweet!
I've got an XSP cooler and a Koyo rad on the way soon, I'm debating whether or not to do something similar or just go with stock mount. I've got a limited amount of time until it gets mapped so I'm not sure i'll be able to go v-mount
I've always wondered just how relevant super cool air is on a FI Intercooled car, as surely once it's heated by the tubby and then cooled by the cooler, the effect of the temperature difference is somewhat reduced? May be talking tosh though
I've got an XSP cooler and a Koyo rad on the way soon, I'm debating whether or not to do something similar or just go with stock mount. I've got a limited amount of time until it gets mapped so I'm not sure i'll be able to go v-mount
I've always wondered just how relevant super cool air is on a FI Intercooled car, as surely once it's heated by the tubby and then cooled by the cooler, the effect of the temperature difference is somewhat reduced? May be talking tosh though
even if you have a true cold air intake, the air inside the piping is usually heated up due to all the area of heat its exposed to. so its not going to be "super cool" air, far from it actually.
it might be a little better than a short ram on an fd though. it would only make sense, since the short ram is sucking in all that heat the engine and turbos are letting out. not quite sure. i would need to check intake temps to find out.
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Have you considered a Feed vented headlight cover? It would deliver right where your secondary intake is. Feed's vented hood has a non-aggressive look and puts the vents over the engine/turbos where it's needed most. Props for thinking outside the box! Many of my ideas are borrowed from Japanese tuners who are 10 years ahead of us here in the states. Too bad you weren't on Mazda's payrole when they cut corners on the engine bay.
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or maybe gibberish....
even if you have a true cold air intake, the air inside the piping is usually heated up due to all the area of heat its exposed to. so its not going to be "super cool" air, far from it actually.
it might be a little better than a short ram on an fd though. it would only make sense, since the short ram is sucking in all that heat the engine and turbos are letting out. not quite sure. i would need to check intake temps to find out.
even if you have a true cold air intake, the air inside the piping is usually heated up due to all the area of heat its exposed to. so its not going to be "super cool" air, far from it actually.
it might be a little better than a short ram on an fd though. it would only make sense, since the short ram is sucking in all that heat the engine and turbos are letting out. not quite sure. i would need to check intake temps to find out.
you can always wrap it in that exhaust heat wrap stuff it would keep it cool maybe....this setup looks very nice i already saved this page so i can make one im just going to use a little bit bigger intercooler because my battery is relocated in the back.