I commend you on taking a very level headed approach to the situation. I think most other people would go the route of screaming up and down demanding full compensation when everyone knows how these cars can go at anytime.

Hope everything works out for the best.

 

im just sad for you
but at least it wasnt you behind the wheel when it blew up, and it seems like an ok deal unless he was giving it a whole lot of ****

 

do a search on pineapple before you go with them...quality concerns aside, it sounds as if you will wait a while to get your seven back on the road. i'm not saying anything bad about pineapple, just that they've had some less than stellar press here on the board.

 

Ok, thanks for all of the suggestions. I'll get everything in writing and check out evrything (fuel, cooling, ...) before I have them install the new engine. As for me being level headed, well I just don't think it's worth the fight. And I honestly think it probably was not their fault, so their offer is fair. Life is full of these situations and getting mad is usually not the answer. Wow, sounds like I must be getting old... 26 is not that old is it?

I knew the DP / y-pipe combo had potential for overboost, and I was going to keep my eye on the boost guage very closely to be sure I didn't exceed 10psi. It never even got above 8 with my leak.

Nobody has answered my question about street port with stock ECU. Will this be a problem with boost limited to 10psi?

 

Its your call and I would say that the shop is trying hard to make you happy.

However, in Illinois, if a shop creates a condition requiring repair (including breaking a motor or any other part), the shop would be in violation and liable for (at least) the full cost of the repair. Maybe its unfair to the shop owner and maybe not, but that's the way it is in Illinois.

(815 ILCS 306/80)
Sec. 80. Unlawful acts or practices. Each of the following acts or practices is unlawful when committed by a motor vehicle repair facility: . . .
(8) Altering a motor vehicle to create a condition requiring repair.

Before I see a whole lot of responses about intent, etc. Please note the Act says nothing about the Facility altering the vehicle on purpose. BTW that's why reputable shops carry O&E insurance.

 

I agree. Take the deal. It seems more than fair considering that they may have had nothing to do with the the demise of the engine.

My engine is original at 68K and going strong. So far.

 

It won't be a problem, however, it won't run great.

 

Thanks Mahjik. What exactly do you mean by, "it wont run great"? Will it run worse than unported, or are you just saying that I will not be taking full advantage of the port job until I get an ECU? I don't want an engine that will run poorly, but since I am spending the cash for the new engine, I figure it would be worth the extra expense for a mild street port. Am I wrong here?

 

The timing needs to be retarded with ported engines.

Depending on the size of the port, the idle will be lumpy, the car might hesitate a little more, etc.. Unless you plan on getting a mid to large sized port (and using some sort of aftermarket ECU, even the Pettit chip will work fine), I wouldn't bother porting at all.

 

Personally I'd do the compression test myself. While I do believe the shop did a compression test, there is the possibility that they did it incorrectly.

With additional boost and probably a nice boost spike that your car hasn't had in the past it's likely that you blew a vacuum line or two. Check your vacuum lines. I'd imagine the shop looked at the pressure sensor first, but you never know. This hose pops off on many FDs. The car will run as if it's dead if not connected.

 

Holy crap, almost like watching "undercover brothers" again.

 

Hey Dan, would you post the name of the shop if they get everything done right? Need more shop props for our area, considering some of the bad...

If they were testing during the last couple days, they probably overboosted given the temps we've been having. Hope all goes well for you in this...

 

Yeah, I'll post it. What is up with this freezing weather? This all happened yesterday, so it would have been pretty cold outside.

On another topic, I just called pineapple racing and they quoted me 3-5 weeks for rebuild once they receive my engine. That seems like a long time. Anybody else have recommendations about engine builders? I don't want to sacrifice quality, but I would prefer to get this resolved sooner than later. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks.

 

Just get a reman from:

Malloy Mazda
1-888-533-3400
Talk to Ray Crowe

That's your best bet. Any rebuilder is going to take time (and more money). If I were to get a rebuild, it would be from Pettit Racing.

 

moderators, ban this troll please.

 

look at this L337 ****.



pretty good advertising scheme tho, props to BN sports for sending their village idiot to show off their products.

 

They obviously blew the motor at full boost and not at idle. If they are offering free labor that is a pretty good deal.

Jason

 

i will keep an eye on him and so will others. hopefully he will just go away.

 

i find it a little hard to believe they blew it at idle. I would suspect it blew at full bost as well, but be grateful they arent shafting you like a lot of places would have tried to do.

-Zach

 

Well, if it's the shop I think it is (Dan you got a silver FD with an R1 wing?), they are exceedingly cool people. Anyway, post *****, post *****, and um... ***** some more!

If it don't warm up soon, I'm gonna have to sleep in the FD's engine bay! Never been able to rest my hand on the upper intake manifold after a hard drive before...

 

What do you mean by this???

I do have a silver 94 touring model, so you are probably right about the shop. They have been good to me in the past, and it seems they are doing the right thing this time as well.

 

Oh, I'm just trying to raise my post count to get respect around here!! hee hee

Yeah, I think I came up behind your car as it was pulling into X shop a couple days ago in the morning. Wanted to honk (I have a 93 silver Touring, no wing), but just enjoyed seeing it. Unless it's a different car at a different shop. Then I'd be all owned and stuff, huh?

 

So that is you huh? I have actually seen your car a few times. I'd say that 800+ posts should get you a little respect, look at me I have a whole 30 something. I have read just about every thread on this site though!

I don't think you'd be owned right now since mine is now a 1 rotor. Maybe after I get it back though... Anyway +1 post for me!

 

You guys have got to be kidding me. Your car is in the hands of a repair shop, your motor blows, and you are just willing to buy a new motor???!!! Free labor to installing the motor you bought, after they blew your last one, that is not a good deal. If anyone at the shop I work at was driving a customers car and the engine blew, we would damn well be paying for it.

It's a good deal for a shop to just pay for labor when installing the new motor, instead of also buying the new motor. And WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED? Maybe they overboosted testing it, maybe they screwed something up while trying to repair it, hell maybe he just missed a shift and it was the motor's time, regardless When you took it to them it did not have a blown motor, when you went to pick it up it was dead.

 

Dude, are you friggen kidding me??

Unless Im misunderstanding something, this shop is not warrantying jack **** on the guy's car. They're not responsible for anything other than the repair they were commissioned to make (and did so properly from what we understand).

According to you if I take my truck to jiffy lube and get an oilchange, and my power steering hose busts while it is up on the rack, it is their fault and they should repalce it. No, in fact, it is just bad luck that it happened right then, and unless one of them has a knife in his hand, I cannot be made to believe that it has anything to do with what they did.

Bottom line, everyone knows rotaries are damned sensitive and temperamental. You'd have a hard time making me believe, much less proving to anyone else, that making a vacuum hose repair was directly related to rotary engine failure, on a car known for unpredictable engine failure in the mileage range it currently resides.