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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 06:00 AM
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Mustang 5.0 hood on my FD

Some idiot prior owner put thick *** insulation and heat duct tape under the hood, I assume to protect the paint by keeping all the hot *** air from the turbos right where you don't want it to be. I would rather have to repaint my hood if it peels after 10 years for a couple hundred bucks then have to rebuild my engine from unnecessary heat. so anyway I ripped it out and decided to go a step further by installing some vents.

It just so happened that I found some that I really liked that are carbon fiber. Only problem is, they are a replacement for the stock '13-14 Mustang 5.0. We don't see many of those in Japan anyway so I don't think anyone here will even know what they are from.

I expect some people are going to have their hater faces on just because of the title of this thread, but I have braced myself to have my feelings hurt and cry myself to sleep tonight.

Location of the vents looks pretty legit, they are held on my 34 aluminum rivets so the arent going anywhere. I had to trim a bit of the hood support but don't have to actually remove any of it so the hood is still rock solid. Should let the turbo heat out nicely and lower underhood temps a few notches.

Pics are a little dark cause theres a friggin typhoon outside.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 07:11 AM
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Interesting look.. just get rid of those damn headlights
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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They actually don't look too bad—better than some "add in" vent jobs I've seen, and certainly better than some aftermarket hoods.
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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That doesn't look too bad, and should function pretty well.

The insulation was there for a reason. You should put it back on, and trim it so it doesn't block the vents. Removing it was foolish.
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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The hood does not look that bad at all.

... I second the post about the headlights too! :-)
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the insulation is put there to replace the stuff from the factory to protect the hood finish and deaden some of the engine noise. its called a creature comfort. and like I said, I would rather have a cooler engine at the expense of a couple hundred bucks if my hood paint peels in 10-15 years. some people have that problem, some people dont. is it worth putting your hot turbo into a thick wool sweater for a hood? keep your insulation if you want to, but i bet you anybody who thinks like me has already ripped that crap out.
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
Interesting look.. just get rid of those damn headlights
those are the evo-r reamemiya knockoff lights. I actually have a set of the legit reamemiya i got off yahoo auctions without brackets or wiring for only $400 but I'm not sure I want to cut the frame yet. I ordered the evo-r set since it comes with new lenses and brackets just to see how it looks. didn't put the len on yet though. I'm thinking about making my own custom cf cover.

also, the double bubble lights that were on it when I bought the car were the damn ugly ones.
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wrathofshampoo
the insulation is put there to replace the stuff from the factory to protect the hood finish and deaden some of the engine noise. its called a creature comfort. and like I said, I would rather have a cooler engine at the expense of a couple hundred bucks if my hood paint peels in 10-15 years. some people have that problem, some people dont. is it worth putting your hot turbo into a thick wool sweater for a hood? keep your insulation if you want to, but i bet you anybody who thinks like me has already ripped that crap out.
Why do you think your engine will run cooler without the insulation????
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
Why do you think your engine will run cooler without the insulation????
I agree. Insulation removal does not mean it will run cooler.

And keeping it on doesn't make it any hotter.

And actually, that's exactly why turbo blankets exist. They keep radiant heat in the turbo, to keep engine bay Temps lower and even helps improve spool. More useful than destroying a perfectly good hood by ripping out the insulation and putting ugly holes in it.

Engine bay is going to be hot REGARDLESS. There's a ******* engine in there.


But hey, it's your car.
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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That actually looks really good. I like it.

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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cptpain
I agree. Insulation removal does not mean it will run cooler.

And keeping it on doesn't make it any hotter.

And actually, that's exactly why turbo blankets exist. They keep radiant heat in the turbo, to keep engine bay Temps lower and even helps improve spool. More useful than destroying a perfectly good hood by ripping out the insulation and putting ugly holes in it.

Engine bay is going to be hot REGARDLESS. There's a ******* engine in there.


But hey, it's your car.
The most important thing it does for an FD is to help suppress a fire LOL

Leaving it in place will help keep the engine bay cooler because it's insulating the hood which will retain more heat without it.

PS mustang vents are not bad
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Hood vents look fine. Headlights....not feelin'.
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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Cool

Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
The most important thing it does for an FD is to help suppress a fire LOL

Leaving it in place will help keep the engine bay cooler because it's insulating the hood which will retain more heat without it.

PS mustang vents are not bad
lmfao. ok logic here. you remove the insulation and your aluminum hood soaks up the heat. so it REMOVES it from the engine bay and transfers it to the cool air that blows over your hood, plus my addition of vents will help heat flow out underneath.

now, you KEEP the insulation in. your hood does not soak up as much heat. where is the heat at? in your engine. where you don't want it to be.

yep. sounds very smart to me.

but I'm not afraid to improve my car so I'll take the crap out, but thanks for the opinions.
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wrathofshampoo
lmfao. ok logic here. you remove the insulation and your aluminum hood soaks up the heat. so it REMOVES it from the engine bay and transfers it to the cool air that blows over your hood, plus my addition of vents will help heat flow out underneath.

now, you KEEP the insulation in. your hood does not soak up as much heat. where is the heat at? in your engine. where you don't want it to be.

yep. sounds very smart to me.

but I'm not afraid to improve my car so I'll take the crap out, but thanks for the opinions.
Originally Posted by wrathofshampoo
....... i bet you anybody who thinks like me has already ripped that crap out.
Its fortunate that more people dont think like you. You have been given good information by some of the most experienced, and well respected FD people on the planet, and you are not smart enough to listen. Do what you like, its your car to screw up. Maybe Fritz will buy it for the parts after you destroy it.

Close up pictures of the hood would be nice. Lets see how good your work is
Old Jul 12, 2014 | 05:45 PM
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wrathofshampoo your logic is very flawed. Do you honestly think EVERY car manufacturer is not as smart as you and puts insulation on their hoods even though its bad and makes the engine run hot?? I think you should re-read the posts here and put your ego to the side.
Old Jul 12, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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ok, this thread went to hell when Pert-boy started acting all tough. To hell with his attitude and this thread. The hood looks stupid, the lights are a joke, and it's all going to go floating away in the tsunami, lol!
Old Jul 12, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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Lots of advice about the insulation.

Curiously no one has any data to back it up one way or the other.
Old Jul 12, 2014 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jkstill
Lots of advice about the insulation.

Curiously no one has any data to back it up one way or the other.
My thoughts exactly!

Anyways, as towards the original point of the post - hood looks good! I came in here totally ready to flame on it but it looks pretty good the way you did it.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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I agree with the many people above. Hood insulation does not make the engine or engine compartment run hotter.

It is purely there to save the paint. I know this because I removed the insulation from my black FD and left it on my Dad's black FD. At the time, both stock, one manual, one auto. Five years on, my hood needs a respray. His does not.
Engine temps were left unaffected.

If you want to reduce engine bay temps, the vents are a good start. You also need to make sure you have the plastic engine under tray on the car. And remove the air con system and the air con radiator that sits in front of the engine radiator. Run water with water wetter, get a good water pump.... The list goes on.

Insulation under the hood skin will not affect the engine temps. It was saving your paint and you should have left it on, thats my take on it.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SA3R
It is purely there to save the paint.
Well, not exactly.

The insulation on the stock FD hood is also for fire suppression.

If fire breaks out under the hood, the insulation will drop, helping to reduce the fire.

That info can be found in several places on this forum.
Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Read most of his other posts. His "logic" leaves a lot to be desired. The hubris is strong with this one.
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