3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

MT oil & GEAR oil.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:17 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
MT oil & GEAR oil.

What is the best and where is the cheapest place to get it? Thanks in advance.

Brady
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:49 PM
  #2  
mad_7tist's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 0
From: tampa
i like red line synthetic. cheapest shop around DSL baby!
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:51 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
What is DSL? Do they have web site?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:52 PM
  #4  
clayne's Avatar
PV = nRT
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,250
Likes: 0
From: New Zealand (was California)
I don't recommend Redline in Mazda transmissions. I use it religiously in my Honda and used it in my FD for a while. While it cuts down on the cold notchiness - I don't think it offers enough friction to the synchros when warmed up.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:54 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
Well what is your favorite?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:57 PM
  #6  
mad_7tist's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 0
From: tampa
clayne were you using the mtl fluid?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 10:01 PM
  #7  
clayne's Avatar
PV = nRT
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,250
Likes: 0
From: New Zealand (was California)
No. MT-90.

Brady, right now I'm using some Valvoline gear oil I got from a mechanic friend. Works fine.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 10:03 PM
  #8  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
And that stuff is like free compared to the price of Redline.
I wonder how the Mobil 1 synthetic works? Seen it a autozone.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 10:04 PM
  #9  
mad_7tist's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 0
From: tampa
ok they have mtl that i use and like
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 10:05 PM
  #10  
SpeedKing's Avatar
Power Trippin'
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,129
Likes: 1
From: Land of The Quick
Best is subjective. Some use regular MT/diff. oil, most use synthetics. Of the latter, there's several to choose from, Redline, Amsoil, Royal Purple, Mobil1, etc. Mobil1 is the cheapest and easiest to find.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 10:06 PM
  #11  
clayne's Avatar
PV = nRT
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,250
Likes: 0
From: New Zealand (was California)
mad_7: I have used both MTL and MT-90. Both had the same thing: Reduced cold notchiness BUT increased frequency of grinds when shifting fast. There's something about Redline that doesn't typically go well with the synchros in Mazda trans over the long-term.

The Vavoline gear/trans oil is simple and effective.

Like I said, I still use Redline in my Civic.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:25 AM
  #12  
BigTone's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: Aurora, IL and Milwaukee, WI
I love MT-90 great stuff
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:55 AM
  #13  
Mahjik's Avatar
Mr. Links
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 27,595
Likes: 43
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally posted by mad_7tist
ok they have mtl that i use and like
MTL is too thin. At least use MT-90 if you want to stay with Redline.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 07:23 PM
  #14  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
So I should be OK if I go ahead and use Mobil 1 from auto zone?
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:28 PM
  #15  
BATMAN's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Silicon Valley Bay Area
Redline 20w50 for engine and MT-90 for tranny.

DIff gets 75w90 or shock proof 250w
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 09:32 PM
  #16  
cpa7man's Avatar
Racing is life!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,173
Likes: 0
From: Grapevine, TX
Originally posted by BRADYMAHONEY
So I should be OK if I go ahead and use Mobil 1 from auto zone?
What Clayne was saying is that the synthetic gear lube (like MT-90, amsoil, others) provides too little friction for the syncros. They need some level of friction to operate properly. You will have the same issue with most of the 75-90w (GL-5)full synthetic gear lubes. Some people have experienced syncro problems with the GL-5 full synthetic gear lubes and some have not. IMO your better off running something not quite as slippery and changing it once a year. A GL-4 lube would be better suited for the mt application. I run amsoil 75-90w and have had no issues. I'm also fairly stock, reliability mods only.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 09:36 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: WILBURTON, OKLAHOMA
My poor car is a long long way from stock.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 11:25 PM
  #18  
BATMAN's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Silicon Valley Bay Area
Originally posted by cpa7man
What Clayne was saying is that the synthetic gear lube (like MT-90, amsoil, others) provides too little friction for the syncros. They need some level of friction to operate properly. You will have the same issue with most of the 75-90w (GL-5)full synthetic gear lubes. Some people have experienced syncro problems with the GL-5 full synthetic gear lubes and some have not. IMO your better off running something not quite as slippery and changing it once a year. A GL-4 lube would be better suited for the mt application. I run amsoil 75-90w and have had no issues. I'm also fairly stock, reliability mods only.
Actually the Redline has a gear lub that addresses the friction for the synchros.

As a matter of fact, they do sucj a good job at it that it shifts so smooth........
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FD7KiD
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
15
Feb 26, 2021 10:12 PM
Cameron38
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
3
Aug 19, 2015 06:08 PM
FD7KiD
Single Turbo RX-7's
1
Aug 17, 2015 11:50 PM
pzr2
General Rotary Tech Support
1
Aug 15, 2015 08:29 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 AM.