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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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You couldn't pay me to put poly mounts in my car. Some people are able to cope with the vibrations. They gradually become numb over time, and don't notice it any more. Most of them are young ........... and don't know any better. The only real use for them (IMO) is in a dedicated track car.
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Gotta disagree Adam. I switched directly from OEM to Noltecs. I think I'm pretty sensitive to things like that. But objectively I can't find any difference in NVH, yet my engine stays put and the shifter doesn't move like a spoon in jello. I think their advantage is in design but about 1/3 the cost of OEM.
And I'm probably older than you.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
A friend of mine put them in his FD. His car was miserable to ride in. He took them off, and went back to the oem mounts. A huge difference in vibration.
The problem here is that you're basing your comments off of one car with one specific set of mounts.

There are many poly options out there, and not all are created equal. I've had a similar experience with one kind of poly mount that rattled my teeth.... switched to another brand of poly mounts and problem solved
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
Gotta disagree Adam. I switched directly from OEM to Noltecs. I think I'm pretty sensitive to things like that. But objectively I can't find any difference in NVH, yet my engine stays put and the shifter doesn't move like a spoon in jello. I think their advantage is in design but about 1/3 the cost of OEM.
And I'm probably older than you.
Why did you switch Jim? Are you comparing the performance of your old worn oem mounts to the brand new Noltecs, or new to new?

You might be older than me. Maybe not!!! ........... PM me. Us old folks have to have some secrets
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
The problem here is that you're basing your comments off of one car with one specific set of mounts.

There are many poly options out there, and not all are created equal. I've had a similar experience with one kind of poly mount that rattled my teeth.... switched to another brand of poly mounts and problem solved
You are right Rich. It was a very bad experience.

Personally, my 94 shifts very nicely with oem mounts. Not sloppy at all. The drivers mount was replaced about 5 years ago, with oem, and wasn't that expensive.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
Why did you switch Jim? Are you comparing the performance of your old worn oem mounts to the brand new Noltecs, or new to new?

You might be older than me. Maybe not!!! ........... PM me. Us old folks have to have some secrets
When I bought my car it was pretty low mileage and I'm fairly certain the mounts were in good shape. At about 70k I added an ETB after noticing alot of movement in the shifter. When I pulled the engine for a coolant seal failure at 90k, the driver's side fell apart and I replaced them with the Noltecs (found a set for ~$75 shipped, so I figured I'd give them a try).
Your right though, to be fair I didn't replace good OEM with Noltecs. But still, if you drove my car I think you'd admit there's no real difference in NVH between the two.
I'm with you that OEM is often the best option...for old folks. But in this case I've been happy. They've really made progress in durometer and design for aftermarket mounts since the days of hockey pucks and drilling holes in blocks of aluminum.

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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Plus's and minus's to everything. Mazda comp mounts are the way to go if you need stiffness but not sure if they're still made.

Like stock mounts the poly mounts also fall apart especially when soaking in oil.

I'm also a firm believer in transferring some of the pulses or torque to a bushing if everything is solid it's hell on the drive line, PPF etc..... not to mention how it can make your *** feel.

PS I've probably pulled out 10 engines in the last 3 years most had aftermarket mounts of one kind or another and only few were in good condition the rest went in the trash can.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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^^If you use the heat shield on the turbo side mount and keep them oil free, the poly ones will provide a long service life..... and I've pulled out many more engines that than in the last decade big Fritzy
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
^^If you use the heat shield on the turbo side mount and keep them oil free, the poly ones will provide a long service life..... and I've pulled out many more engines that than in the last decade big Fritzy
That was in the last 3 years you should of seen me in my prime I've pulled 4 in the last 3 months getting rid of these rollers.

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if I've pulled more than some full time mechanics over the last decade lol.

It's all just one opinion over another but stock mounts are good, the AST is good, the radiator is good. Nothing last forever. I've seen leaky aluminum rads, leaky aluminum ASTs and lots and lots of very bad poly mounts which is why I won't use them until somebody figures out a better way to make them, hell I don't have problem with the OEM solenoid hoses and cheap silicone hoses are the worst.......... etc......
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I seriously wouldn't be surprised if I've pulled more than some full time mechanics over the last decade lol.
This I believe, lol.

I seriously think you should open up a shop man! Keep the day job on Georgetown Rd. going, and do track prep for enthusiasts on the side! You've certainly got the know-how and space out past you is very affordable...
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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This I believe, lol.

I seriously think you should open up a shop man! Keep the day job on Georgetown Rd. going, and do track prep for enthusiasts on the side! You've certainly got the know-how and space out past you is very affordable...
I've been trying to convince the landlord to let me build a garage for years
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