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Old May 16, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Question Moron needs an answer please

While I was swapping out my old vacuum lines for new SVH stuff I broke the plastic nipple on a solenoid . After becoming very pissed and much cursing I decided to take a look at what solenoid I had broke. Turns out I broke the EGR solenoid.

After a quick search on here it seems that I have gotten extremely lucky and all I have to do is cap the nipples from/to this solenoid. I really would like someone to confirm this for me before I put all this crap back together.

I have the airpump and cat removed and have no emissions stuff on the vechile(that I know of).

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Old May 16, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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If you get the piece that broke off out of the tube you can usually drill a small hole slightly bigger where it has snapped.Push in the broken nipple 2-3mm and epoxy it back in. Leave to set and should be good as new.I did this to one of mine and worked fine.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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I REALLY don't want to remove all that stuff if possible. Which is why I want to make sure the solenoid can sit unused and not hurt anything.

Forgot to say im still seq(if that matters). this thing is just sitting there waiting for an answer on this issue so if anyone else would like to weigh in please do so

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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Just superglue the nipple back onto the solenoid. Start with just enough glue on the broken plastic surfaces to reattach the nipple, then a thicker bead around the outside to seal and strengthen the joint. Plastic Weld plastic epoxy will also work well.

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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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So I need this damn thing to work? Super glue/epoxy isn't really an option, it is torn up pretty good.

I knew I should of just left that line alone. Great now I have to figure out how to take that rack thing apart.

Thanks for the answers guys
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Do I need a EGR solenoid for my car to function properly? Glue is not an option.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Since you have a '94, you'll get a check engine light with a non-functioning EGR system. BUT, if you have an aftermarket ECU like a PowerFC or a chipped ECU, it's no problem.

The California '93s and all '94s had a sensor on the EGR valve to prove that the EGR valve moved when it was told to. Yes, it's a pain in the *** . '95s got rid of the EGR system entirely (which, BTW, is totally useless anyhow).

Few non-solenoid-repairing ways you can go about it:
- Drive around with the check engine light as a fun reminder to eat Ramen and save pennies so you can buy a PowerFC. They're only $700ish now with commander, and it's a world of good for the car.

- Rig up a relay at the wiring to the ECU. This may be documented somewhere, but you basically have the signal that the ECU sends to the solenoid trip the relay, and that closes the relay circuit. Have the output of the circuit go to the ECU's input for the EGR switch, and it will think everything worked right.

Or, fix the solenoid .

Good luck,
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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Since you have a '94, you'll get a check engine light with a non-functioning EGR system. BUT, if you have an aftermarket ECU like a PowerFC or a chipped ECU, it's no problem.

The California '93s and all '94s had a sensor on the EGR valve to prove that the EGR valve moved when it was told to. Yes, it's a pain in the *** . '95s got rid of the EGR system entirely (which, BTW, is totally useless anyhow).

Few non-solenoid-repairing ways you can go about it:
- Drive around with the check engine light as a fun reminder to eat Ramen and save pennies so you can buy a PowerFC. They're only $700ish now with commander, and it's a world of good for the car.

- Rig up a relay at the wiring to the ECU. This may be documented somewhere, but you basically have the signal that the ECU sends to the solenoid trip the relay, and that closes the relay circuit. Have the output of the circuit go to the ECU's input for the EGR switch, and it will think everything worked right.

Or, fix the solenoid .

Good luck,
Dale
PFC was my first mod . It would suck to own this car and not have money to burn. I've only had it since Nov and I'm already afraid to look at the actual cost of the mods/upgrades/general maintenance

I thought I didn't need thething from what I knew about it, but just wanted to make sure (I'm a noob at car repair).

I'll fix the solenoid when the engine goes .

Once again thanks for the replies, I couldn't own/work on this car without the forum
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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Since you have a '94, you'll get a check engine light with a non-functioning EGR system. BUT, if you have an aftermarket ECU like a PowerFC or a chipped ECU, it's no problem.

The California '93s and all '94s had a sensor on the EGR valve to prove that the EGR valve moved when it was told to. Yes, it's a pain in the *** . '95s got rid of the EGR system entirely (which, BTW, is totally useless anyhow).

Few non-solenoid-repairing ways you can go about it:
- Drive around with the check engine light as a fun reminder to eat Ramen and save pennies so you can buy a PowerFC. They're only $700ish now with commander, and it's a world of good for the car.

- Rig up a relay at the wiring to the ECU. This may be documented somewhere, but you basically have the signal that the ECU sends to the solenoid trip the relay, and that closes the relay circuit. Have the output of the circuit go to the ECU's input for the EGR switch, and it will think everything worked right.

Or, fix the solenoid .

Good luck,
Dale


The first day I got my car I got the EGR CEL (california 93). I read that just disabling it would still throw a code but decidedto test it for myself . After just disabling it I put it back together, fired it up, no more CEL, been that way for over a year with out the CEL ever coming back.
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