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Old 07-12-02, 10:28 AM
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A stock FD vs a ls1 T/A. The FD is going to take a slight whooping. I raced a 2001 WS6 T/A the other day on the highway. As I could see he had exhuast. We punched it from a 50 mph he jumped in front of me I had to slow down to keep from hitting him so I knew I was pulling on him a little. But this thing never ran out of breath all up to 140mph I only had a car maybe a car and a half. This really suprsised me. I thought that we would just be even, even him pulling on me. The ls1's are nothing to laugh at. They can clock low 13's even some into a very high 12. That vs a stock FD of lets say 13.7. Your going to need mods to beat a ls1.
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I have both a 94 rx7 and 98 TA 6 speed.
The RX is stock and the TA has bolt ons.
Off the line the TA wins.
From 80 to 100+ the RX has the advantage.
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Originally posted by Street King
A stock FD vs a ls1 T/A. The FD is going to take a slight whooping. I raced a 2001 WS6 T/A the other day on the highway. As I could see he had exhuast. We punched it from a 50 mph he jumped in front of me I had to slow down to keep from hitting him so I knew I was pulling on him a little. But this thing never ran out of breath all up to 140mph I only had a car maybe a car and a half. This really suprsised me. I thought that we would just be even, even him pulling on me. The ls1's are nothing to laugh at. They can clock low 13's even some into a very high 12. That vs a stock FD of lets say 13.7. Your going to need mods to beat a ls1.
^^^this is what i have been trying to say, earlier in this thread. i am sorry to say that there is NO DESTROYING a ws-6, especially with a stock FD. maybe a car or two on the interstate pull, but that is not destroying anything.....stock ls-1 cars have seen times as low as 12.7 (ss camaro). this was in a GMHTP mag, and the driver was a pro drag racer....someone like john force. well anyway, the car dynoed @ 327 rwhp, and was BONE STOCK...........i sure wish that i could add a ws-6 friehawk to my garage......
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Id love a firehawk. 1 of my favorite domestic cars. An ls1 firehawk stock will knock your socks off.
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finally another member who ain't afraid to give'em props. i love that metallic rusty-bronze color......beautiful, and fast. i will say though, they are best for cruising & straight-line runs. not cornering.....unless well equipped...
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"On the dragstrip, our Trans Am ripped 0-60 mph in 5.0 seconds and cleaned up the quarter mile in 13.5 seconds at 107.4 mph"

"...by pulling 0.84 g on the skidpad"

http://www.motortrend.com/dec99/fire...ebirdta_f.html

I guess the difference was in my shifting.

BTW, those firebirds are quite the machine on the straight line, but I have a little bit of contact with people who have raced them competitively, and if you want to have any handling performance out of them... you better just strip it down and start from the bare body. They do lay quite the strip though haha.
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well good now i dont feel as bad about not being able to pull him that hard. he raced a guy with a ss camero 2000 and whopped him last nite so i dont know what he has done to the ws6. i guess its the 4.10 and computer.
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this is being discussed on the LS1 forum right now, actually:
here is the link
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Hey Street King, where are you in TX. We can get together and admire our cars...
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Lets get something straight, all 13brew's run different due to mileage (compression) and maintinance and there are some freak LS1's out there too.

The first week I had my car it had 6k miles on the motor and I ran 2 stock WS6 LS1 TA's on the highway, I put a length on one of them and the other hung right with me.

Stock vs stock I would say they have an edge but if the rotary would have the same milage as the LS1, it would be real close.
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Re: Mods to beat a LS1 Trans Am?

Originally posted by Midnight Hour
What type of mods would I need on a stock FD to win over a LS1 TA? One of my friends just got one and he's talking ****. Friendly rivalry and that ****. So what type of mods do I need?
Well, based on my own street experiences (since some people don't take other's seriously without a timeslip), I would have to say depending on what year the LS1 is and how good a driver he is, also if it's an auto or M6, it would be close. Given both are stock. Keep in mind 01's and 02's have been known to be stronger than earlier year's as well. However, I have raced a few in my time and this one in particular with a muffler and an intake blah, blah, blah wasn't that close. I know what an FD is capable of and believe that with an intake, catback, dp, more boost and ecu, you will be a handful for him.
Don't be surprised if he takes you though with you being stock.

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Originally posted by GsrSol
Lets get something straight, all 13brew's run different due to mileage (compression) and maintinance and there are some freak LS1's out there too.

The first week I had my car it had 6k miles on the motor and I ran 2 stock WS6 LS1 TA's on the highway, I put a length on one of them and the other hung right with me.

Stock vs stock I would say they have an edge but if the rotary would have the same milage as the LS1, it would be real close.
We should run sometime for fun. I have only 2 significant mods on mine. So i'm not stock but I can at least cap my cutout.

That car for your avatar kinda looks like the one a friend of mine got the other day. He traded his S2K for it. Supposedly it puts down around 400 to the ground. Haven't raced yet but if it's true, he'll slaughter me.
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