Modded 3rd gen vs. 300zxTT
06-09-03, 09:57 PM
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Interestingly, SPOautos put down 412 rwhp but on upgraded twins and he ran 125 mph traps. Nobody can just say what hp they are going to have. Every car is different. Good luck - Z32 TTs are awesome cars and with that much hp should make for a good race
06-10-03, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Street King
I don't think so. 400lbs isn't compensating for an extra 200hp.
300zx w/500hp vs a 7 w/300hp? ZX is gonna whoop on it.
Now a 410 rwhp 7 vs his 500hp ZX machine. The rx7 will get the launch and the ZX will pull on it.
I don't think so. 400lbs isn't compensating for an extra 200hp.
300zx w/500hp vs a 7 w/300hp? ZX is gonna whoop on it.
Now a 410 rwhp 7 vs his 500hp ZX machine. The rx7 will get the launch and the ZX will pull on it.
It gets pretty funny after a while...
'I came up to this 500HP single turbo supra that had slicks I was in my third gen. I had just installed by DP and boost gage, it was a clear day so I thought we would give it a run. I knew I was gonna get creamed but DAMN! I never had a chance...blah, blah'
then a bunch of people reply "oh man is your FD healthy??? you should have killed him with your DP!"
"you must be a sucky driver"
blah, blah, blah...
ok, I admit it this is an GREAT exageration but you know what I mean.
06-10-03, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by montego
"you must be a sucky driver"
blah, blah, blah...
ok, I admit it this is an GREAT exageration but you know what I mean.
"you must be a sucky driver"
blah, blah, blah...
ok, I admit it this is an GREAT exageration but you know what I mean.
I stayed in front for about 40 yards but he blew past me when I shifted to 2nd. But you see, the race was already over. I wasn't trying my hardest
06-11-03, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Shift_TT
I don't know the Turbo that he is going to run, nor how many psi he's gonna run either. I'm not too familiar w/ the RX-7 yet. I figured all of that wouldn't matter too much, and knowing the wheel hp estimates would be enough to get a good estimate.
As for my Z, it'll probably be in the fall or early winter before its completed. (his car won't be completely ready for a while either) Rebuilt engine w/ upgraded internals. I'll be running JWT Sport 530 BB turbos. Should put down 480rwhp plus (maybe 500whp) w/ proper tuning. These turbos are fairly new (not a lot of info out yet on em), but I would expect to see full spool w/ these turbos somewhere between 3k and 3.5k rpms, faster than stock. Obviously bigger injectors, intercoolers,full exhaust, clutch, etc...... are on the mod list. I'm doing all of this at once. The Z will probably weigh around 3400 lbs., maybe high 3300's. I wish it weighed 2800 like the RX-7 =)
I don't know the Turbo that he is going to run, nor how many psi he's gonna run either. I'm not too familiar w/ the RX-7 yet. I figured all of that wouldn't matter too much, and knowing the wheel hp estimates would be enough to get a good estimate.
As for my Z, it'll probably be in the fall or early winter before its completed. (his car won't be completely ready for a while either) Rebuilt engine w/ upgraded internals. I'll be running JWT Sport 530 BB turbos. Should put down 480rwhp plus (maybe 500whp) w/ proper tuning. These turbos are fairly new (not a lot of info out yet on em), but I would expect to see full spool w/ these turbos somewhere between 3k and 3.5k rpms, faster than stock. Obviously bigger injectors, intercoolers,full exhaust, clutch, etc...... are on the mod list. I'm doing all of this at once. The Z will probably weigh around 3400 lbs., maybe high 3300's. I wish it weighed 2800 like the RX-7 =)
Don't worry about the haters. Your Z is not slow.
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06-11-03, 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by zhound
Dyno of the other 530 car:
Don't worry about the haters. Your Z is not slow.
300ZXTT
11.02@129.9mph
on stock motor
Dyno of the other 530 car:
Don't worry about the haters. Your Z is not slow.
300ZXTT
11.02@129.9mph
on stock motor
06-11-03, 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
interesting. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the Z peaks about 4700 RPM and then drops like the Nasdaq on Sept 12. On my old setup my 7 peaked at 5800 and held till 7300. Not making any point in particular, just an observation.
interesting. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the Z peaks about 4700 RPM and then drops like the Nasdaq on Sept 12. On my old setup my 7 peaked at 5800 and held till 7300. Not making any point in particular, just an observation.
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06-11-03, 01:48 PM
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I dynoed with 1640 lbs tq, this is in 3rd gear and with a mid pipe, when I had my cat the torque curve was different on the low end.
Torque is for towing a boat.
Torque is for towing a boat.
06-11-03, 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
I dynoed with 1640 lbs tq, this is in 3rd gear and with a mid pipe, when I had my cat the torque curve was different on the low end.
Torque is for towing a boat.
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I dynoed with 1640 lbs tq, this is in 3rd gear and with a mid pipe, when I had my cat the torque curve was different on the low end.
Torque is for towing a boat.
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Since you were comparing stock turbos, here's a Z with stock turbos. The pic is a little small but you can see the rwhp(not torque) peaks by ~4500rpm and stays there until redline.
06-11-03, 03:23 PM
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a 3-rotor single turbo rx7 driven by a good driver (hopefully me) can beat any lambo or ferrari effortlessly.. 600 hp to the wheels w/race gas on a 2750 pound machine? plz.. find me a streetable car besides a 1200 hp supra that can handle this 2.0 liter monster
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a 3-rotor single turbo rx7 driven by a good driver (hopefully me) can beat any lambo or ferrari effortlessly.. 650 hp to the wheels w/race gas on a 2750 pound machine? plz.. find me a streetable car besides a 1200 hp supra that can handle this 2.0 liter monster
06-11-03, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by DarkHeaven
a 3-rotor single turbo rx7 driven by a good driver (hopefully me) can beat any lambo or ferrari effortlessly.. 650 hp to the wheels w/race gas on a 2750 pound machine? plz.. find me a streetable car besides a 1200 hp supra that can handle this 2.0 liter monster
a 3-rotor single turbo rx7 driven by a good driver (hopefully me) can beat any lambo or ferrari effortlessly.. 650 hp to the wheels w/race gas on a 2750 pound machine? plz.. find me a streetable car besides a 1200 hp supra that can handle this 2.0 liter monster
06-11-03, 03:48 PM
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Hmmm. I found your hp dyno and looks like you made 315rwhp and 1640lbs rwtq?
Since you were comparing stock turbos, here's a Z with stock turbos. The pic is a little small but you can see the rwhp(not torque) peaks by ~4500rpm and stays there until redline.
Hmmm. I found your hp dyno and looks like you made 315rwhp and 1640lbs rwtq?
Since you were comparing stock turbos, here's a Z with stock turbos. The pic is a little small but you can see the rwhp(not torque) peaks by ~4500rpm and stays there until redline.
I was more curious about the comparison of the two dynos on the Z's.. how would upgraded turbos cause the power to fall flat on its face like that past 5000rpm? The dyno from the stock turbos looks much better even though ultimate power is lower, what was wrong with the setup on the other car? I'd expect a similar curve with higher peaks considering the upgrades on the car. It looks like the A/F ratio is about 12:1 up there which is great for piston power.. just curious. Not enough timing?
In response to the original post it sounds like it would be a close race. Some of you guys need to calm down with the Supra complex, the 7 can be beat.
Matt
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06-11-03, 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by mjw
Yeah, that 1640lbs is just a tad high there..
I was more curious about the comparison of the two dynos on the Z's.. how would upgraded turbos cause the power to fall flat on its face like that past 5000rpm? The dyno from the stock turbos looks much better even though ultimate power is lower, what was wrong with the setup on the other car? I'd expect a similar curve with higher peaks considering the upgrades on the car. It looks like the A/F ratio is about 12:1 up there which is great for piston power.. just curious. Not enough timing?
In response to the original post it sounds like it would be a close race. Some of you guys need to calm down with the Supra complex, the 7 can be beat.
Matt
93 SSM - TO4E @ 15psi = fast but beatable
Yeah, that 1640lbs is just a tad high there..
I was more curious about the comparison of the two dynos on the Z's.. how would upgraded turbos cause the power to fall flat on its face like that past 5000rpm? The dyno from the stock turbos looks much better even though ultimate power is lower, what was wrong with the setup on the other car? I'd expect a similar curve with higher peaks considering the upgrades on the car. It looks like the A/F ratio is about 12:1 up there which is great for piston power.. just curious. Not enough timing?
In response to the original post it sounds like it would be a close race. Some of you guys need to calm down with the Supra complex, the 7 can be beat.
Matt
93 SSM - TO4E @ 15psi = fast but beatable
I've raced that car on the street, the power does not fall on its face like you think. I also saw it make an 11 second pass with the driver who had a hurt shifting arm.
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Zhound..
The 1640 lbs of torque is real. You need to divide by the drive ratio. I did a 3rd gear run, that qualified as 265 ft lbs. The dyna pac works different than a dyno jet or mustang dyno.
The 1640 lbs of torque is real. You need to divide by the drive ratio. I did a 3rd gear run, that qualified as 265 ft lbs. The dyna pac works different than a dyno jet or mustang dyno.
06-11-03, 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by zhound
Hmmm. I found your hp dyno and looks like you made 315rwhp and 1640lbs rwtq?
Since you were comparing stock turbos, here's a Z with stock turbos. The pic is a little small but you can see the rwhp(not torque) peaks by ~4500rpm and stays there until redline.
Hmmm. I found your hp dyno and looks like you made 315rwhp and 1640lbs rwtq?
Since you were comparing stock turbos, here's a Z with stock turbos. The pic is a little small but you can see the rwhp(not torque) peaks by ~4500rpm and stays there until redline.
06-11-03, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by LT1-7
how much boost were you running? I have stock twins in my Z and I was planning on going with bigger turbos. As of now, I am running 17psi with a FMIC to cool things down
how much boost were you running? I have stock twins in my Z and I was planning on going with bigger turbos. As of now, I am running 17psi with a FMIC to cool things down
My own car makes a tad bit more power.
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