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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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flip it and you have the cartoon smile similar to the mx5

Pick your flavor but I'll take the frown and evil HLs vs the smile and girly HLs

I just wish they would make the car smaller/lighter overall

I agree it's going to sell pretty well because it's not just about looking sexy which is important but performance is what really sells sports cars
upon closer inspection the ford is smiling, its just a really ugly half smile.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/co...-side-view.jpg

look at the rear end of the car, the longer you stare the worse it gets
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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New Mustang Shelby GT350 is supposed to be around $50k. 600hp FLAT CRANK, two-piece brake rotors, carbon fiber, adaptive dampening. The Japanese need to sharpen their pencils.

Like you said on the other thread!


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I always disagree with the "market isn't there" argument. What the market isn't there for, is stuff that sucks.

Apparently the domestics get it.



Oh yea, that's my new favorite quote because it's 100% the truth.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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not to change the subject, but lexus sold 500 LFA's from 2009-2012, yet is the car a failure?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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From RotaryNews FB page:

In an effort to clear up where the Rotary Engine currently stands at Mazda, RotaryNews.Com sat down today for an exclusive interview with Mazda CEO, Masamichi Kogai-San. Kogai-San has been misquoted in articles that have appeared over the last few days, so we wanted to clear waters.

The chat was short and concise and focused exclusively on the Rotary Engine. The following is the key messaging quotes Kogai-San wanted to convey on the future of RE at Mazda:

"I can tell you that Mazda IS proceeding with the research and development of the Rotary Engine, and the team doing the work does exist"

"as part of our responsibility (as the only manufacturer who has successfully commercialized the RE) , I do not think Mazda is allowed to discontinue the development of the Rotary Engine. But at the present time Mazda has no specific program or project (assigned) for the Rotary Engine, but Mazda will continue to explore all potential uses for the Rotary Engine."

Essentially no specific RE project has been green-lighted at Mazda, but we left the interview very optimistic at the future of RE at the company, and we were pleasantly surprised with the passion Kogai-San demonstrated for the little engine that could. So now you know!
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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not to change the subject, but lexus sold 500 LFA's from 2009-2012, yet is the car a failure?
Yes. Yes it is.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
From RotaryNews FB page:

In an effort to clear up where the Rotary Engine currently stands at Mazda, RotaryNews.Com sat down today for an exclusive interview with Mazda CEO, Masamichi Kogai-San. Kogai-San has been misquoted in articles that have appeared over the last few days, so we wanted to clear waters.

The chat was short and concise and focused exclusively on the Rotary Engine. The following is the key messaging quotes Kogai-San wanted to convey on the future of RE at Mazda:

"I can tell you that Mazda IS proceeding with the research and development of the Rotary Engine, and the team doing the work does exist"

"as part of our responsibility (as the only manufacturer who has successfully commercialized the RE) , I do not think Mazda is allowed to discontinue the development of the Rotary Engine. But at the present time Mazda has no specific program or project (assigned) for the Rotary Engine, but Mazda will continue to explore all potential uses for the Rotary Engine."

Essentially no specific RE project has been green-lighted at Mazda, but we left the interview very optimistic at the future of RE at the company, and we were pleasantly surprised with the passion Kogai-San demonstrated for the little engine that could. So now you know!
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Now that is how you cut out all the BS. Great job guys!
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:42 PM
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Well this news does not confirm the RX. Just the further R&D on the rotary. Which I could car less about if its a hybrid hydrogen rotary skyactive eco green hippy engine that will be used in some car the equivalent of a prius...

This interview just confirms they are not doing what we would hope they would, the point of this whole thread, and discussion we have been having the last couple of years....no rotary powered sports car. That's what we care about, that's why we are here...
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 02:39 AM
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I really sincerely hope the article's inaccurate. Other than that, I do feel what y'all are talking about. Companies aim to make money by providing benefits through products. Interest in a new rotary powered piston-killer is useless; they want people with the capital and willingness to buy it. Unfortunately, the fad seems to be directed nowadays at "sports cars" the size of SUVs. I miss the 90's...
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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I miss the 90's...
oh..for so many reasons.

Mazda always seem to keep aces in their sleeves and releases information only when they feel it pertinent. It ain't pertinent right now.

Several years until the "anniversary"...so lets just wait and see. I mean, regardless of where any of this threaded speculation goes, we'll be doing just that anyway..
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
Now that is how you cut out all the BS. Great job guys!
All I got from that was that there was "a team" dedicated to it. He didnt specify the team size. Having worked for years in a company the size of madza it wouldnt be a stretch to think that the "team" is a group of 3 engineers and a manager with a meager budget ($2-3million a year?) because its a pet project with no realistic expectations of coming to market. If you want a rotary powered sports car, thats grasping at straws for hope.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Agreed. I think it's pretty nice looking. I.
not to pick on you, but you're wrong!
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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It's not bad. Just as the BRZ isn't bad. However both are pretty damn ugly overall. Designing a sexy car is super hard which is why the FD is so brilliant.

https://www.google.com/search?q=BRZ&...16%3B860%3B645
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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i'm bored of the BRZ, it needs some competition.

it seems like they intended the BRZ to be kind of plain, so that your wheels/wings/exhausts etc make it better, which is cool.


as far as making a sexy car, it is one of the sad things that post ww2 car starts with the xk120, and evolves into the Ferrari's and E types, and then the Muria, and then 45 years later we're saddled with the camry.

thats like starting with Grace Kelly, and ending up with Andy Dick.

what went wrong?
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
not to pick on you, but you're wrong!

I don't think I am. Those cars look at all alike—they contain some common shapes (don't all cars now?), but proportion and details are everything.
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanDowns
All I got from that was that there was "a team" dedicated to it. He didnt specify the team size. Having worked for years in a company the size of madza it wouldnt be a stretch to think that the "team" is a group of 3 engineers and a manager with a meager budget ($2-3million a year?) because its a pet project with no realistic expectations of coming to market. If you want a rotary powered sports car, thats grasping at straws for hope.
I seem to recall that a few years ago there was a rumor that the rotary research team at Mazda had doubled in size. Can't find any reference of that though.
Does anyone else remember that or was it just an hallucination (or dream)?

Of course doubling a 3 engineer team yields a 6 engineer team, not that much more. But still authorizing more resources to a pet project sounds strange to me.

Andrea.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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I've purchased my last Mazda. They make exactly nothing that interests me.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
not to pick on you, but you're wrong!
oh come on... talk about reaching.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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^ You have to admit, the proportions and lines almost look exactly the same even though the cars look nothing alike. The lines of all the details damn near matches. Fog light opening lines, headlights, rear quarter window shape, rear end slope and shape, rear tail lights ect. It's almost as if someone from Ford stole the initial Accord sketch and Mustangfied it. Lol! I think it's funny!
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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^ You have to admit, the proportions and lines almost look exactly the same even though the cars look nothing alike.
Yes but as you said 'the cars look nothing alike' and that is all that matters. Hence the come on 'You're reaching comment'.


Originally Posted by t-von
The lines of all the details damn near matches. Fog light opening lines, headlights, rear quarter window shape, rear end slope and shape, rear tail lights ect. It's almost as if someone from Ford stole the initial Accord sketch and Mustangfied it. Lol! I think it's funny!
The new GT350 is a modern version of first gen GT350 which is what Ford was going for. As far as the "regular 2015 mustang" pictured above, it is basically a toned down version of their "new GT350". Look at the pictures and you can clearly see where the inspiration came from.




The fact the civic shares similar traits is just a sad coincidence
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
^ You have to admit, the proportions and lines almost look exactly the same even though the cars look nothing alike. The lines of all the details damn near matches. Fog light opening lines, headlights, rear quarter window shape, rear end slope and shape, rear tail lights ect. It's almost as if someone from Ford stole the initial Accord sketch and Mustangfied it. Lol! I think it's funny!
the honda designer was fired and hired on with Ford?
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