PhatManBUD

was driving on the freeway, not full boosting. hit .83 bar on PFC, normally im at 1.00 bar.

car just bogged down and started to die. It wouldnt start back up. towed it home. cranked it. it sounds like it wants to start back up but its not catching. smell of fuel.



fuel pressure looks fine,
everything looks hooked up
took out the 2 leading plugs and both looks black with some carbon, havent replaced em in 2,500 miles, hoping thats the prob.
seems like oil squirted all around the turbo area kinda on the upper radiator hose and i cant figure out where its coming from yet.

im at work right now so i have to figure it out when i get home.

so i took out the 2 leading plugs, hoping that if its flooded it'll dry out when i get home with some new plugs and try it again. Im also gonna crank it and see if im getting compression in both sides.

god i hope its not another motor. this one has only got 3,500 miles on it or so. damn rotaries so unpredictable I know everyone around me is going to tell me to sell the car if it is. i really dont want to though. ive poured my heart and soul into the car and 3 years worth of work on the car and at the workplace collecting paychecks for it. i dont wanna give up now. especially when i saw how well this thing does against that viper AHHH!!!!


somebody hold me =\

RotorJoe

So if you have a compression tester that would be first. But you know this, and your right you can listen for 3 equal pulses on each rotor and that will give you a go, no go idea about compression.

Check for oil on the non compressed side of the intake and also in you IC lines right of the compressed side of your turbo.

Lets hope it is time for that new turbo you want and you can throw away that POS e-bay crap. *crosses fingers*

Good Luck

the_glass_man

iTrader: (2)

Best of Luck to you. Sounds like it might be flooded. How many miles on this motor?

PhatManBUD

I am hoping thats all it is. My next mod was a new turbo...i was only $300 away.... =\

now i hope its not a whole motor/turbo job.

I dont get it though. yes there is shaftplay in the turbo. but it still spins...But it was smoking a TON during the last 500 miles ive been driving it. That stinky burning oil blown turbo smell.

PhatManBUD

3,500. Im hoping its flooded too. i did smell gasoline on the spark plugs.


Im gonna pray that i hear those wooshing sounds when i crank it tonight with the spark plugs out.

dubulup

sorry to hear this...doesn't sound like you lost an apex seal.

PhatManBUD

maybe the oil was coming from the omp. the lines do look a little wet around there...are omps known to take a dump at 135k?... how would i know? i could also see a little bit off oil on the manifold where it meets the engine...

I hope its not that either. in the end would still result in a rebuild =\

s-thetikz

iTrader: (1)

stay strong homie.

PhatManBUD

Thanks, i will try

PhatManBUD

any other ideas guys? IM PRAAAYING its just the turbo. pray for me =(

audiobot7

Buy a 25 dollar compression tester from walmart. Good luck.

tiger18

iTrader: (1)

id be worried that the oil metering pump line has **** itself and snapped causing lack of oil to one rotor and killed the apex seals (plop compression),,,mmmmm let us know

PhatManBUD

ok... WEIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


i just got home from work and i took out the fuse for the fuel pump and for the ignition. and i had my brother crank it with my hands infront of each opening for the plugs and the front one was fine, big pushes of air fellt good. The rear same thing except it was wet! so i was like ****. thats probably fuel so i smelled it and its not. its water. what the hell...

how did my coolant seal blowout, the cars never been overheated, temps have ALWAYS been 81-88 deg. cel. Even when the car shut off the temps were at 86 deg. cel. I leave the fans on for a good 6 minutes after shutting off the car to let the coolant cool down. I dont get it =\

i guess it cud be far worse but this aint that gravy either...till means a rebuild ofj ust the rear half at least i guess.

i can see coolant aruond where my coolant hoses is, and ontop of the exhaust manifold. under the LIM. any ideas if there might be something else other then the actual motor? that doesnt make sense to me!

apex_sideway

Well stay rotary or go LS1

Narfle

iTrader: (16)

Im here for you, baby.

LUPE

Clean it out the excess fuel and moisture, toss in some clean plugs and fire it up. If the coolant seal is gone, you'll smoke the neighborhood out.

SAiamNE

Who built the motor? Could he have possably pinched a coolant seal during rebuild?

mdpalmer

iTrader: (24)

Just to clarify, the "smoking like hell" is coming from your turbos, NOT your exhaust, right? You sure that the smoke you're seeing isn't from the coolant getting burned up in the engine? Does your exhaust smell like coolant? Man, good luck. I wish I had my own shop... I'd just have two or three spare shortblocks laying around in case I have a string of bad luck

t-von

iTrader: (8)

Engines don't damage themselves. Maybe you need to take a closer look at the condition of the overall build of the car (and I'm not just talking about the engine).

PhatManBUD

well as far as cooling goes. i run the fans as soon as i see 70 deg cel. I have a koyo radiator. greddy 1.3bar cap. water wetter and water.

i treated the car very nice, i let the fans run and run right when i turn off the car. i avoid driving in traffic. i get off the freeway and take the long way if i have too as long as traffics flowing. i dont get it. **** just happens =\


so i think im gonna make it a mission to rebuild the rear half, just the coolant seals. does anyone want to help me? if not i will go v8. chevy block with a hole cut out of the hood for a blower. jk haha what a threat huh.

my engine builder is a very respectable builder, and i 100% trust his work. maybe i just had shitty luck.

Force13B

iTrader: (19)

3k on the motor. I'd take it back to him that's BS dude. If what you say is true, temp and fan wise, there is no reason for that.

jamespond24

iTrader: (13)

At least he got 3k miles mine only has 2k before it blow. Mine is due to poor/ shitty porting

dubulup

if it were fuel coming out...I wouldn't want my hand there with no plugs, YIKES!!

check you coolant lines and LIM gasket...could coolant be sucked into the motor.

you built the motor, correct??

if something was wrong internally, I think it would have surfaced long before 3k miles...especially the way you beat on it

XSTransAm

i would hope you have some sort of warrenty for that kinda mileage with a bad coolant seal. Maybe the builder can meet you half way on the cost?

RotorJoe

First go buy some trouble shooting tools.
Piston Engine Compression Tester
and
Coolant System Pressure Tester

Use them both and determine you engines compression and if you have an internal water leak.

Then continue from there.

Hows the IC piping look, do you have a lrage amount of oil in there? Did you find out where the oil was coming from?

Why? Without plugs in and the fuses pulled no worries of a fire. Let me in to what you're thinking about. I'm curious. Why, because I have done this in the past also.

Thanks
Joe