Ok this is my question: how much hp do you think the upgraded twins added? What is the hp difference between the stock twins and all your upgrades and the high flows and all your upgrades. It kinda sounds like 25-35 hp... Am I wrong? what are you at now? 400?
I guess the whole purpose of them isn't really top horse power numbers its more about how fast they spool. They sound nice. I was planning on doing a single but I wanted to install it myself-these sound like they'd be a lot easier to install.

 

oh yeah...i never thought about sound. do the bb twins sound more high pitched and louder compared to stock???

widebody, im guessing the upgraded twins give a good 35-40 hp.

 

Dyno, Dyno, Dyno!!!

 

so capt., how do the turbos sound compared to stock??

 

Yes I want to see the DYNO too....

another things there seems to be alot of dreaming going on it this thread...I dont think upgraded stock twins will get you in the 10's..First 10's takes over 400rwhp +..and some damn good driving...I'm sorry I have the power to run low 12's..guess what I cant ! Why because I suck at launching..drag is not my thing anyways..but I just laugh when I read all this BS and how you all "seem" to think it's easy to run low numbers...

 

^bump^
Numbers Yet?

 

Running 10's in a street car is never going to be easy, but I think it's possible with the FD.

Anthony got close (11.01 I think) with stock twins, ported motor, and all the other normal bolt-ons.

It's just once you get in to the 11's, things start breaking. Axles, differentials, etc, etc...

I think with the following mods, 10's can be attained on twins. Of course, while shooting for 10's I would be sure to have a friend at the track to give me a ride home.

Full exhaust
Intake
Front mount IC
Ignition
Pulleys
Boost controller
Fuel Pump
Upgraded Injectors
Power FC
Upgraded Twins
Kazz LSD
Upgraded Axles (RP, Pettit, etc)
Slicks
LOT'S of tuning....

10's, 11's, 12's.... No matter what, it's a fun car.

My 2 cents....

-Matt
'93 Touring

 

wow low 11s with stock turbos? does that mean stock stock or modified stock turbos.... i"m interested in what these things can do. the times is on slicks right? not street tires.

But still waiting for #s from pepz w/ the M2 BB upgrade

 

No dyno plots yet. Haven`t had the time. Now there is talk of a dyno opening up here in town again which would save me the 50 mile trip to Tampa. And I also am still considering whether it is such a great idea after reading all the dyno bomb stories on this forum. But in the end I think I will do it just cause I am dying to see some numbers. Until I get a management system and bigger injectors I will only dyno it at 10 and 12psi on 93 octane gas. If I add some toluene to the gas I may run it at 15psi of boost. I have I K&S knock senser turned to almost full sensitivity and never see any retard as of yet.

JoeD, check you`r PM box

 

i heard that M2 has now stopped selling these units becasue they were not making the power they expected. i dont know if this is true or not, but thats what someone said in this forum.

 

Well that would be the second new item M2 has discontinued. They have stopped selling their hoods. Sheesh.

Steve

 

The twin setup is still on their web site. Here's a wild idea, why don`t you call them and ask.
And as to the power they make. M2 told me that they have seen 380rwhp so far but that no one has maxed them out yet. The turbos they are using are rated at 400 hp each in a piston engine.

 

If you had to guess, do you think you are near 380rwhp? Do you keep the rats nest of hoses with this setup?


Petros

 

I was told the same thing by Mostly Mazda. They said that they aren't getting the performance numbers they want and are putting it on hold until they decide what to do. I was told they have them on a car that is making about 350 rwhp.

-Matt
'93 Touring

 

the car that made 350hp, had a leaky injector o ring and was running way rich. it barely made it home, and would not restart.
its up and running now, with stock twins. with 850/850's it had fuel for the m2 turbos, but noe it has 550/850.

mike

 

I talked to Brett via e-mail on the 22nd and 25th about the ball bearing upgrade. He did not mention putting anything on hold to me, he mentioned needing two weeks to build the turbo's. He also mentioned "400 rwhp should be easily attainable", of course with the right intake, exhaust, I/C, porting, etc, etc.

I hope so, cause my stock turbos are leaking and I need something to do this winter.

 

petrosc, I kept the "rats nest" but it's all nice pretty yellow silicone now.

j9fd3s, I am running 550/850 with M2's stage three ECU. I will be running 550/1300 injectors when M2 finishes their own progammable ECU and I get one from them. The more I look into what size injectors I need the more I think that increasing the primaries is not the way to go. And can just end up causing the car to run poorly ( very rich) at low/off the boost speeds.

 

^bump^
numbers yet?

 

M2 still sells the ballbearing twins,the only reason for them to stop would be lack of demand as for the hoods, Brian himself as well as Brett had said the reason for not continuing with the hoods was because they didn't meet the quality they were looking for at a price that would be competative with all the cheap crap carbon hoods out there.

 

Any dyno numbers yet?

Tim Benton

 

This is what I like about M2. They only sell good stuff. If I had bought everything from M2 from the bigining I would have save myself 1000's in the end. I tried 3 intercoolers before I broke down and bought the M2 med. I wish they had come out with this before I went single turbo....

 

Come on capt it's been two months. Good lord man we all want some numbers!We'll an start a collection for the cost of the dyno if thats it.

 

OK, Ok, I'll track down the name, number and location of the closet dyno this week. Anybody know of one near Sarasota FL?

 

Here are all the dynos in FL there are about three close to you. FLORIDA

Atlantic Performance
7227 Atlantic Blvd.
Jacksonville 32211
Tel. 904-722-3278

Dyno Performance Engineering
9205 S.W. Kansas Ave.
Stuart 34997
Tel. 561-283-3482

Dynotek
7380 N.W. 54th St.
Miami 33166
Tel. 305-884-4111

Extreme Motorsports
1905 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee 32301
Tel. 850-224-7246
Website:http://www.extrememotorsportsinc.com/



Fordspeed
11735 66th North
Largo, 33773
Tel. 727-709-4979
Website: http://www.fordspeed.com

Imported Performance
229 D. Ridgewood Ave.
Daytona Beach, 32117
Tel. 386-255-4504
Website: http://importedperform.micronpcweb.com/



Johnny's Auto
Route 10 Box 415 Hwy 41 South
Lake City 32055
Tel. 904-752-9771

Marty Motors
1105 S.E. 12th Ave.
Cape Coral, 33990
Tel. 941-574-5000



Massari - Muller Racing
1984 Sherwood St.
Clearwater 34625
Tel. 813-282-3255

Mustang Specialties
1401 S. Dixie Highway
Pompano Beach 33060
Tel. 954-942-5202

Norris Motorsports
501 Roper Parkway
Ocoee 34761
Tel. 407-758-0571
Website:www.geocities.com/norrismotorsports/



Perf. Dynamometer Svcs.
2427 Guava Dr.
Edgewater 32141
Tel. 904-427-0390
Website: http://www.performancedyno.com

Performance Edge Chassis
5372 Catalyst Ave.
Sarasota 34233
Tel. 941-928-4960

P.R. Aircraft Services
4401 N.W. 74th Ave.
Miami 33166

Race Related Inc.
12485 44th St. North
Clearwater 33762
Tel. 727-561-9440

Rare Auto Design
2220 N. Orange Ave.
Orlando 32804
Tel. 407-898-4282
Website: http://www.rareautodesign.com

Renntech
1369 North Killian Dr.
Lake Park 33403
Tel. 561-845-7888
Website: http://www.renntechmercedes.com

Rieth Motorsports
617 Industrial Ave.
Boynton Beach 33426
Tel. 561-369-1711
Website: http://www.riethmotorsports.com

South Florida Performance
18728 S.W. 107th Ave.
Miami 33157
Tel. 305-233-8520
Website: http://www.sfp.net

Spec R Tuning
14513 N. Nebraska Ave. Suite 109
Tampa 33613
Tel. 813-910-7235



SpeedCraft Engineering
994 Blanding Blvd.
Orange Park 32065
Tel. 904-276-9720

Steeda
1351 NW Steeda Way
Pompano Beach 33069
Tel. 954-960-0732
Website: http://www.steeda.com

Street Rods & Classics
1552 NW First Ave.
Boca Raton 33432
Tel. 561-394-4359

The Dyno Shop, Inc.
17305 Pine Ridge Rd. #10
Ft. Myers Beach 33931
Tel. 941-437-1420
Website: http://dynoshopproducts.com

Tune Tech Auto Diagnostics
39082 US Hwy 19 North
Tarpon Springs 34689
Tel. 727-939-8467
Website: http://www.tunetechauto.com

Turbo Driven Concepts
8034 N.W. 103rd St.
Hialeah 33016
Tel. 305-558-4745
Website:http://turbodrivenconcepts.com/



Unlimited Performance
145B S. Congress Ave.
Del Ray Beach 33445
Tel. 561-279-0179
Website: http://www.uprproducts.com

Vinci High Performance
3915 El Rey Rd.
Orlando 32808
Tel. 407-292-4500
Website: http://www.vincihiperformance.com

Wright Touch Automotive
5780 SW 25th St. Bay #3
Hollywood 33023
Website: http://www.wrightouch.com

 

Thanks 7 eleven, the Sarasota dyno is closed so I will try one of the others that are close by.