M2 or RotaryExtreme's Toe Links & Trailing Arms?
10-30-03, 08:22 PM
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I have Pettit toe-links installed with Baker's seals. If you're considering a similar approach you should note that the seals are molded to thin metal washers that increase the overall spacing requirements by about 1/16 inch, and this MAY require you to do a little work to get everything in place.
I installed the seals only on the body side and left the wheel end without so that I could compare the affects. They've been installed this way for about 14K miles of daily driving without any perceptible difference (yet).
I installed the seals only on the body side and left the wheel end without so that I could compare the affects. They've been installed this way for about 14K miles of daily driving without any perceptible difference (yet).
10-31-03, 05:47 AM
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im pretty sure chuck at RE track tests his stuff. he has a pretty mean rx7. all the stuff he makes is excellent quality so there is a slightly higher price but nothing unreasonable at all.
10-31-03, 05:52 AM
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You better lay them side by side before you accuse me of copying.
Making those parts is no rocket science. As long as I make them with good material and, better rod ends and dust seals, they are better than the rest.
If you buy the other company's trailing arms and toe links, you will not be able to use the dust seals without modifying the bushings. Do you think grinding them with your grinding wheel will be as precise as my CNC machined bushing which is made to fit those dust seals?
Chuck Huang
Making those parts is no rocket science. As long as I make them with good material and, better rod ends and dust seals, they are better than the rest.
If you buy the other company's trailing arms and toe links, you will not be able to use the dust seals without modifying the bushings. Do you think grinding them with your grinding wheel will be as precise as my CNC machined bushing which is made to fit those dust seals?
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by scratchjunkie
id like to add that these are track tested vs RE copying.
id like to add that these are track tested vs RE copying.
10-31-03, 06:01 AM
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Thanks for the support. I would like to explain why mine costs more:
1. I supply them with rod end dust seals. Those are $2.50 each.
2. To make the trailing arms and toe links with solid rod, there is more machining involved. Other companies buy those hollow rods so they only need to cut them to length and thread it. Mine has to be extruded just enough to fit the rod ends and then threaded. So the center part of the rod is still solid.
3. I use rod ends that's used on road race cars, not those commercial graded rod ends that's never meant to be used on suspension parts which has extremely high load.
Chuck Huang
1. I supply them with rod end dust seals. Those are $2.50 each.
2. To make the trailing arms and toe links with solid rod, there is more machining involved. Other companies buy those hollow rods so they only need to cut them to length and thread it. Mine has to be extruded just enough to fit the rod ends and then threaded. So the center part of the rod is still solid.
3. I use rod ends that's used on road race cars, not those commercial graded rod ends that's never meant to be used on suspension parts which has extremely high load.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by potatochobit
im pretty sure chuck at RE track tests his stuff. he has a pretty mean rx7. all the stuff he makes is excellent quality so there is a slightly higher price but nothing unreasonable at all.
im pretty sure chuck at RE track tests his stuff. he has a pretty mean rx7. all the stuff he makes is excellent quality so there is a slightly higher price but nothing unreasonable at all.
10-31-03, 11:18 AM
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just ordered a pair of trailing arms and toe links from rotary performance yesterday. never knew they were in albany, ca... i should have just driven over there and picked them up
10-31-03, 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
Thanks for the support. I would like to explain why mine costs more:
1. I supply them with rod end dust seals. Those are $2.50 each.
2. To make the trailing arms and toe links with solid rod, there is more machining involved. Other companies buy those hollow rods so they only need to cut them to length and thread it. Mine has to be extruded just enough to fit the rod ends and then threaded. So the center part of the rod is still solid.
3. I use rod ends that's used on road race cars, not those commercial graded rod ends that's never meant to be used on suspension parts which has extremely high load.
Chuck Huang
Thanks for the support. I would like to explain why mine costs more:
1. I supply them with rod end dust seals. Those are $2.50 each.
2. To make the trailing arms and toe links with solid rod, there is more machining involved. Other companies buy those hollow rods so they only need to cut them to length and thread it. Mine has to be extruded just enough to fit the rod ends and then threaded. So the center part of the rod is still solid.
3. I use rod ends that's used on road race cars, not those commercial graded rod ends that's never meant to be used on suspension parts which has extremely high load.
Chuck Huang
10-31-03, 02:14 PM
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I have been speaking w/ Jay at Ground Control. He says that GC is about to start selling their trailing arms/toe links directly rather than having M2 and Pettit rebadge them. Since I've been following this thread, I asked him to address the dust seal issue. He is in contact w/ a seal distributor for dirt-track suspension components. Jay says that he will fit all the pieces w/ dust seals and covers once he gets the specs from the seal company. He is planning on re-machining / re-tooling everything so that there will be no spacer "manipulation" needed. Should make for reliable, no fuss pieces. BTW...the ballpark figure he gave me two days ago was ~$175 per pair.
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10-31-03, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by kung stew
BTW...the ballpark figure he gave me two days ago was ~$175 per pair.
Stew
BTW...the ballpark figure he gave me two days ago was ~$175 per pair.
Stew
(unless they are using very nice rod ends...)
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10-31-03, 08:34 PM
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And at that price everyone is still getting gouged...
And at that price everyone is still getting gouged...
10-31-03, 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by chiminoid
just ordered a pair of trailing arms and toe links from rotary performance yesterday. never knew they were in albany, ca... i should have just driven over there and picked them up
just ordered a pair of trailing arms and toe links from rotary performance yesterday. never knew they were in albany, ca... i should have just driven over there and picked them up
No experience with the other one, just wanted to point out that there are 2 shops with the same name.
11-01-03, 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by jimlab
You've seen the price of Ground Control's coil-over conversion kits, right?
You've seen the price of Ground Control's coil-over conversion kits, right?
11-01-03, 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by xchaos
There must be 2 Rotary Performances. They aren't affiliated as far as I know and I only have dealt with the one in Garland, TX. They are rx7.com and have a great reputation.
No experience with the other one, just wanted to point out that there are 2 shops with the same name.
There must be 2 Rotary Performances. They aren't affiliated as far as I know and I only have dealt with the one in Garland, TX. They are rx7.com and have a great reputation.
No experience with the other one, just wanted to point out that there are 2 shops with the same name.
chiminoid meant Rotary Extreme I think
Originally posted by chiminoid just ordered a pair of trailing arms and toe links from rotary performance yesterday. never knew they were in albany, ca... i should have just driven over there and picked them up
11-01-03, 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by maxpesce
There are two - the one in Texas and one in Virginia, Not related.
chiminoid meant Rotary Extreme I think
There are two - the one in Texas and one in Virginia, Not related.
chiminoid meant Rotary Extreme I think
11-01-03, 02:59 PM
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hey.. I beat the hell out of my Rx last June. I have RE toe links and trailing arms and they didn’t bend at all.. I wish I could say the some about some of the OEM parts. over 10k to get it back running 
11-01-03, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by tekno62
hey.. I beat the hell out of my Rx last June. I have RE toe links and trailing arms and they didn’t bend at all.. I wish I could say the some about some of the OEM parts. over 10k to get it back running
hey.. I beat the hell out of my Rx last June. I have RE toe links and trailing arms and they didn’t bend at all.. I wish I could say the some about some of the OEM parts. over 10k to get it back running
11-05-03, 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
You better lay them side by side before you accuse me of copying.
Making those parts is no rocket science. As long as I make them with good material and, better rod ends and dust seals, they are better than the rest.
If you buy the other company's trailing arms and toe links, you will not be able to use the dust seals without modifying the bushings. Do you think grinding them with your grinding wheel will be as precise as my CNC machined bushing which is made to fit those dust seals?
Chuck Huang
You better lay them side by side before you accuse me of copying.
Making those parts is no rocket science. As long as I make them with good material and, better rod ends and dust seals, they are better than the rest.
If you buy the other company's trailing arms and toe links, you will not be able to use the dust seals without modifying the bushings. Do you think grinding them with your grinding wheel will be as precise as my CNC machined bushing which is made to fit those dust seals?
Chuck Huang
12-25-03, 07:14 AM
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What the hell is wrong with you, spiderman wannabe? You better get your brain checked before talking nonsense on my various threads. I wonder if people will trust a spiderman wannabe.
Would you stop wearing your underwear over your head pretending to be spiderman?
Chuck Huang
Would you stop wearing your underwear over your head pretending to be spiderman?
Chuck Huang
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omg i dont think i would trust anyone who puts on their veilside wing upside down.
omg i dont think i would trust anyone who puts on their veilside wing upside down.
12-25-03, 08:04 AM
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So just so i can be clear, if i buy aftermarket trailing arms i get rid of my rubber bushings which need replacing anyway?? Or just one of these bushings? (3 on each side isnt there?) Do toe links replace the other 2?
Will this make the ride harder or noisier, i.e. no rubber to 'cushion' it?
As you can tell i know nothing about suspension
Will this make the ride harder or noisier, i.e. no rubber to 'cushion' it?
As you can tell i know nothing about suspension
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