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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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Howdy, i am a newbie domestic owner. I drive a 1994 firebird formula LT1 with a few mods, i love this car, but i am not stuck on domestics, and i got my *** handed to me by a modded RX7 just a little while ago, so now i am intersted. Any info about cars is appreciated, and i look forward to chatting with ya'll.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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Looking to get a real car huh? If your thinking of getting an RX be prepared to spend alot of money and keep the Advil nearby for the headaches you'll get. They're great cars but are known for their frequent and often difficult to troubleshoot problems. In two years I've spent over $20,000 on the car, just keeping it running. You truly have to have a love for the RX. If your interested, do exactly what you did, get on the forum, do some researching and talk to people about the car. These are very different cars than the ones you're used to so researching could save you some money. Like knowing that an RX burns about 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles, and not trusting your oil level sensor, and locking your motor up, and having to spend $12,000 for a new motor. Didn't happen to me though . Welcome to the forum and good luck if you purchase an RX. You'll need it. May the force be with you!
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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go 4 it, If you get one, just do the b.p.u and you will feel like your driving a 100,000 dollar car.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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Welcome, searching is the best way to answer just about every question you have. the button is in the upper right corner
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Welcome dude !! If you have any questions about the FD (3rd gen Rx-7) feel free to ask......I've had my 7 for about 4 years and I'm STILL learning more about the car Good luck....
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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Welcome to inner circle of trust . But crazy joe i gotta say if you spent $20,000 just keeping your car running .Your car is a piece of **** and you might want to think about selling it.Or maybe you dont know how to work on your car. Have you ever thought your being taken to the cleaners by somebody.You tell me that just doesnt sound right . Sorry to be so harsh ,but sometimes the truth hurts
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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Looking to get a real car huh? If your thinking of getting an RX be prepared to spend alot of money and keep the Advil nearby for the headaches you'll get. They're great cars but are known for their frequent and often difficult to troubleshoot problems. In two years I've spent over $20,000 on the car, just keeping it running. You truly have to have a love for the RX. If your interested, do exactly what you did, get on the forum, do some researching and talk to people about the car. These are very different cars than the ones you're used to so researching could save you some money. Like knowing that an RX burns about 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles, and not trusting your oil level sensor, and locking your motor up, and having to spend $12,000 for a new motor. Didn't happen to me though . Welcome to the forum and good luck if you purchase an RX. You'll need it. May the force be with you!
1 quart/ 1700-1800 miles is normal. If your car is burning 1qt every 1000 miles you've got problems. $20,000 does sound like an *** load of money to spend on repairs. You could have bought another FD for that much.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 09:51 AM
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If you want you can go to my site (which is butt-ugly and still under construction). There are some really good links as far as general information about the car as well as buying tips, things to look for, etc.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/twyatt/index.htm

Look on the left of the page under General Info links.

I have only had my RX for about a month, but I love the car and it is well worth the time and money spent to keep it running good. It is a true sport car and a head turner. Get one...you WILL love it!
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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Welcome to inner circle of trust . But crazy joe i gotta say if you spent $20,000 just keeping your car running .Your car is a piece of **** and you might want to think about selling it.Or maybe you dont know how to work on your car. Have you ever thought your being taken to the cleaners by somebody.You tell me that just doesnt sound right . Sorry to be so harsh ,but sometimes the truth hurts
It's Crazy Jake, but anyway yeah I have bad luck, and it is a piece of ****....thanks.

turbos replaced, water pump gasket replaced, alternator, pettit AST, 3" downpipe.....................$2100
vacuum lines replaced, troubleshoot solenoids,
replace duty valve, heated O2 sensor...................$600
clutch, short shifter........................................... .....$800
battery goes order relocation from M2...................$300
new motor from hayes.........................................$420 0
water pump, radiator and oil cooler flush, motor
mounts, belts, coolant, plugs, plug wires, gaskets,
oil, oil level sensor, water thermosensor, injectors
balanced and blueprinted, injector o-rings, i'm
probably forgeting stuff, and labor from a shop
that didn't know how to connect the vaccuum
lines............................................. .........................$4000
take car to dealer to connect vaccuum lines,
discover other problems other shop created or
missed; broken crank angle sensor, knock sensor,
wiring harness to britle so new one ordered, check
valves missing, TPS sensor bracket broken on throttle
body new one ordered, i'm forgeting stuff...........$4000
M2 dry-cell dead (sat to long) new one..................$300
2 weeks later alternator goes out, and drains new
M2 dry-cell beyond being able to hold a charge,
Optima deep-cycle yellow top and alternator ordered,
also car still not running right so I go to different
dealer, double check all the other dealers work and
troubleshoot turbo system, discover ECU is recalled
(Free!)........................................... .........................$800

Total............................................. .......................$17,100

If count PFC, cat-back, intake, and fuel pump........$3000

Grand total............................................. ..............$20,100

So yes my car is a piece of ****, but maybe a little gratitude for sticking with it instead of saying F@#% it
and letting the car hit the junkyard. It was hard coming
up with that kind of money on a Air Force E-3 budget, and my credit is now screwed because of it. But I love my car, as you can see, the significant spending on the
car contributed to my divorce because I wouldn't listen to my wife and get rid of the car. All for a piece of ****, right?
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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It's Crazy Jake, but anyway yeah I have bad luck, and it is a piece of ****....thanks.

turbos replaced, water pump gasket replaced, alternator, pettit AST, 3" downpipe.....................$2100
vacuum lines replaced, troubleshoot solenoids,
replace duty valve, heated O2 sensor...................$600
clutch, short shifter........................................... .....$800
battery goes order relocation from M2...................$300
new motor from hayes.........................................$420 0
water pump, radiator and oil cooler flush, motor
mounts, belts, coolant, plugs, plug wires, gaskets,
oil, oil level sensor, water thermosensor, injectors
balanced and blueprinted, injector o-rings, i'm
probably forgeting stuff, and labor from a shop
that didn't know how to connect the vaccuum
lines............................................. .........................$4000
take car to dealer to connect vaccuum lines,
discover other problems other shop created or
missed; broken crank angle sensor, knock sensor,
wiring harness to britle so new one ordered, check
valves missing, TPS sensor bracket broken on throttle
body new one ordered, i'm forgeting stuff...........$4000
M2 dry-cell dead (sat to long) new one..................$300
2 weeks later alternator goes out, and drains new
M2 dry-cell beyond being able to hold a charge,
Optima deep-cycle yellow top and alternator ordered,
also car still not running right so I go to different
dealer, double check all the other dealers work and
troubleshoot turbo system, discover ECU is recalled
(Free!)........................................... .........................$800

Total............................................. .......................$17,100

If count PFC, cat-back, intake, and fuel pump........$3000

Grand total............................................. ..............$20,100

So yes my car is a piece of ****, but maybe a little gratitude for sticking with it instead of saying F@#% it
and letting the car hit the junkyard. It was hard coming
up with that kind of money on a Air Force E-3 budget, and my credit is now screwed because of it. But I love my car, as you can see, the significant spending on the
car contributed to my divorce because I wouldn't listen to my wife and get rid of the car. All for a piece of ****, right?
NOW THAT IS A F*CKING HARDCORE FD OWNER. Damn bro. Bad Credit, divorce... You deserve some respect for that $hit
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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it should be pointed out for our newly found firebird friend, that Crazy Jake's situation is not typical.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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NOW THAT IS A F*CKING HARDCORE FD OWNER. Damn bro. Bad Credit, divorce... You deserve some respect for that $hit
I appreciate it brother, it's been a rough two years.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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NOW THAT IS A F*CKING HARDCORE FD OWNER. Damn bro. Bad Credit, divorce... You deserve some respect for that $hit
Second that, no-one can accuse that man of not being a dedicated FD owner !

I'm on my way with the credit cards, thankfully no wife to divorce when it gets silly
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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thanks guys, i like this site, its better than alot of other ones i am on. Thanks for the input, now as for wanting to own an RX, i totally do! so badly, specially after the one in my town absolutley destroyed my car (4 car lengths) i am really curious about the wankel motor, i understand it, but i do not know its tendencies and characteristics. But i am in Canada, and finding a good 3rd gen is down right impossible for the money i can get my hands on too, i am saving right now, and after i sell my car, i might have enough for a nice one, around 25k CDN, so like 17ish USD, anyways, thanks guys.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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you should really get a good after-market warrantee just in case your engine, transmission, etc blows, and you don't have $5K. Carmax has a good program.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by hategreen
you should really get a good after-market warrantee just in case your engine, transmission, etc blows, and you don't have $5K. Carmax has a good program.
Tyrel,

I totally agree with hategreen on suggesting an extended warranty. I paid $750 to extend my warranty to 85,000 miles. That sucker saved my *** $12,000+ in various things covered under warranty:

New Engine
Turbos
rebuilt tranny
2 water pumps
motor mounts
...

I've had my car for 5 years and I still love it! I just found out about this forum 6 months ago. I wish I had known about years ago! Now I have been hooked on Modding my car. It's like having a brand new car with each Mod. Have fun.

Jpandes
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 02:08 AM
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Repairs are one thing but once you're bitten by the rotary-bug you're a gonna. ..I've sunk about $40,000 into my FD ( mods, music and paint job) and I am from Trinidad ..in the Caribbean and I gotta' find $6.3 of my dollars for every $1.00 US dollar I need to buy more stuff...arggg argggg !!

..anyone need a few Kgs? :-)

Here's what she looks like ..notice the gauges over the dash..on the other side ..it's a right hand drive like all the cars down here.

http://nopistons.com/richard_hill.html
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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3rdGen7 thats a nice ride man!! Are there any other RX-7's where your at?? And god bless Crazy Jake damn talk about dedication your the poster boy for RX-7 ownership especially an FD.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 04:46 AM
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I dont know about dedication ,stupidity maybe.You paid $300 for freakin battery!Two seperate times mind you .One would think after getting ripped once you would wise up. you know a $100 miata battery sits right in the rear compartment.You could have picked it up at track auto.What you have to have the m2 battery?In my opinion $4200 for a new motor is too much but I'll give that one to you I guess you cant get them for what I can roughly $2800 for factory reman.Let me see if I am understanding this correctly are you basically telling me you paid another$4000 for the install on this motor?Then another $4000 for parts from the dealer that you dont even remember !?Man and after all that you car still didnt run right ?!!!! Yes in my book thats a piece of **** you are 100% correct.You really need to learn how to do the work yourself then you wont have these kinds of problems.Sounds to me like the dealer and mechanic saw you coming a mile away.Missing check valve? Christ man didnt you check their work? Sounds like you got some studying to do.Your wife was right to leave you your a sucker!!!You have dedication alright but you obviously lack a little in the knowhow depatment.
Learn your car a bit better man and you will save your self a **** load of headaches and cash.
Workshop manuel $70
some basic tools $250 for good sears selection
$3000 for hydraulic lift if ya want to go crazy and splurge
sounds alot f***ing cheaper than $20,000 huh pal.
sorry 'bout your luck but some people just dont get it.

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 05:05 AM
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I dont know about dedication ,stupidity maybe.You paid $300 for freakin battery!Two seperate times mind you .One would think after getting ripped once you would wise up. you know a $100 miata battery sits right in the rear compartment.You could have picked it up at track auto.What you have to have the m2 battery?In my opinion $4200 for a new motor is too much but I'll give that one to you I guess you cant get them for what I can roughly $2800 for factory reman.Let me see if I am understanding this correctly are you basically telling me you paid another$4000 for the install on this motor?Then another $4000 for parts from the dealer that you dont even remember !?Man and after all that you car still didnt run right ?!!!! Yes in my book thats a piece of **** you are 100% correct.You really need to learn how to do the work yourself then you wont have these kinds of problems.Sounds to me like the dealer and mechanic saw you coming a mile away.Missing check valve? Christ man didnt you check their work? Sounds like you got some studying to do.Your wife was right to leave you your a sucker!!!You have dedication alright but you obviously lack a little in the knowhow depatment.
Learn your car a bit better man and you will save your self a **** load of headaches and cash.
Workshop manuel $70
some basic tools $250 for good sears selection
$3000 for hydraulic lift if ya want to go crazy and splurge
sounds alot f***ing cheaper than $20,000 huh pal.
sorry 'bout your luck but some people just dont get it.
No need to rub it in man.... everybody makes mistakes, and to him it was worth it, so I feel for him. He is a dedicated RX-7 owner, so lets keep it at that .
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Hey Im really not questioning on Crazy Jakes dedication to his Fd.Im just saying that he could of saved himself some serious time and money if he did his homework thats all. Sorry Jake. Im busting ***** more than anything
Pretend you know me and Im giving you a hard time.Im not really happy your getting a divorce over this.I think you just ought to think things through a bit more when it come down to your car.Not intended to harm just help in the long run. Sorry to be so blunt

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Is that your car man ...nice !



Originally posted by RX7-2JOCK
Welcome dude !! If you have any questions about the FD (3rd gen Rx-7) feel free to ask......I've had my 7 for about 4 years and I'm STILL learning more about the car Good luck....
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It's Crazy Jake, but anyway yeah I have bad luck, and it is a piece of ****....thanks.

turbos replaced, water pump gasket replaced, alternator, pettit AST, 3" downpipe.....................$2100
vacuum lines replaced, troubleshoot solenoids,
replace duty valve, heated O2 sensor...................$600
clutch, short shifter........................................... .....$800
battery goes order relocation from M2...................$300
new motor from hayes.........................................$420 0
water pump, radiator and oil cooler flush, motor
mounts, belts, coolant, plugs, plug wires, gaskets,
oil, oil level sensor, water thermosensor, injectors
balanced and blueprinted, injector o-rings, i'm
probably forgeting stuff, and labor from a shop
that didn't know how to connect the vaccuum
lines............................................. .........................$4000
take car to dealer to connect vaccuum lines,
discover other problems other shop created or
missed; broken crank angle sensor, knock sensor,
wiring harness to britle so new one ordered, check
valves missing, TPS sensor bracket broken on throttle
body new one ordered, i'm forgeting stuff...........$4000
M2 dry-cell dead (sat to long) new one..................$300
2 weeks later alternator goes out, and drains new
M2 dry-cell beyond being able to hold a charge,
Optima deep-cycle yellow top and alternator ordered,
also car still not running right so I go to different
dealer, double check all the other dealers work and
troubleshoot turbo system, discover ECU is recalled
(Free!)........................................... .........................$800

Total............................................. .......................$17,100

If count PFC, cat-back, intake, and fuel pump........$3000

Grand total............................................. ..............$20,100

So yes my car is a piece of ****, but maybe a little gratitude for sticking with it instead of saying F@#% it
and letting the car hit the junkyard. It was hard coming
up with that kind of money on a Air Force E-3 budget, and my credit is now screwed because of it. But I love my car, as you can see, the significant spending on the
car contributed to my divorce because I wouldn't listen to my wife and get rid of the car. All for a piece of ****, right?
Holy **** !

That's more than an E-3 makes in a year, guys. I'm an O-2 (First Lieutenant) in the Army and make a substantial amount more, and the FD is killing *my* credit card statements right now...

Hey Crazy Jake, come April I'll be stationed at Fort Hood, near Austin. Maybe I can help you w/working on your FD. Also, *stop* taking the car to these two bit shops. Rotary Performance in Garland (in the d/fw area) will save you alot of money compared to what you're been spending, and they really know the FD well, so the job will get done right the first time.

Send me a PM if you want any more info....
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